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Title: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: 42 on November 18, 2005, 10:55:17 AM
Just a thread to comment on odd stuff mentioned in the press.

So here's mine for today: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10075910/

And how is this more psychologically damaging than wearing a giant chicken suit and waving a sign that says "____day sale."?
Title: Re: Wired stuff in the news
Post by: Tage on November 18, 2005, 12:36:33 PM
That article isn't from Wired...
Title: Re: Wired stuff in the news
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 18, 2005, 02:44:33 PM
I think he meant "weird"
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: 42 on November 18, 2005, 08:24:00 PM
Yes it's not from Wired, and neither is this.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10078798/

Just what is our World becoming?
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Harbinger on November 19, 2005, 04:10:38 AM
There are no words.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 21, 2005, 09:04:34 AM
There are many words. Just none that are adequate
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Lightning Eater on November 21, 2005, 05:21:15 PM
wait, what's so crazy about the whole radish one?
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Chimera on November 21, 2005, 06:44:45 PM
That people are so upset over a vegetable.

Admittedly, it was a symbol to these people--a mascot of sorts. But still. It's a VEGETABLE!  ::)
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Lightning Eater on November 21, 2005, 07:27:43 PM
Still, it's like a smaller scale version of someone chopping off the head of the statue of liberty.
Plus, the radish is alive and not just a big piece of copper.
(that actually might not be that good of an example, since the statue of liberty isn't as much a symbol of american society and ideals as it is a pretty statue lots of people know, while to those villagers that radish represents persistence and determination and such)
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on November 21, 2005, 07:57:06 PM
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the statue of liberty isn't as much a symbol of american society and ideals as it is a pretty statue lots of peole know)

...huh?
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Entsuropi on November 21, 2005, 08:08:50 PM
It was made by the french.

/me hisses and spits
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Faster Master St. Pastor on November 21, 2005, 08:55:54 PM
And the Statue of Liberty is not a rock. It is copper. And copper is a mineral.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Lightning Eater on November 21, 2005, 09:02:55 PM
ok, in my defense, from the outside it looks like a rock.
Actually, I think I read that it was made of copper somewhere, anyway, I'll just modify that last post
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Archon on November 21, 2005, 09:10:38 PM
In your prosecution, "actually" only has one "u", and if you read that it was copper somewhere, then it is all the more reason why you should know that it isn't made out of rock.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Lightning Eater on November 21, 2005, 09:21:19 PM
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In your if you read that it was copper somewhere, then it is all the more reason why you should know that it isn't made out of rock.


sorry, it just didn't come to mind when I was writing it, like I know it's hollow, and there's no way they'd be able to make a hollow stone statue that big. But I wasn't really thinking about it as I was writing.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Archon on November 21, 2005, 09:37:13 PM
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But I wasn't really thinking about it as I was writing.

A MAJOR mistake to make.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Faster Master St. Pastor on November 21, 2005, 09:40:10 PM
That would be funny. If the Statue of Liberty were made out of rock. What was this thread about anyway? I can't remember. Don't mention that I could just hit the back button that is located (on my mouse) right next to the left click button and scroll back to the original post. To much effort.

On a completely unrelated note,

Curse my incessant need to correct typos!!! >:(
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Lightning Eater on November 21, 2005, 09:46:16 PM
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A MAJOR mistake to make.


It's material doesn't really matter to my argument though.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Entsuropi on November 21, 2005, 10:02:10 PM
The copperishness was a plot point in Xmen 1. Shame on you!

(http://www.omnistar.org/images/random/spandex.JPG)
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Archon on November 21, 2005, 10:07:27 PM
I meant that not thinking before or while you were typing was a big mistake. And, I disagree. Its material is important to know because your lack of knowledge on the subject makes you appear foolish, and the opinions of fools are less likely to be accepted by those of intelligence.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Entsuropi on November 21, 2005, 10:28:48 PM
Down, boy.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Lightning Eater on November 21, 2005, 10:41:58 PM
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I meant that not thinking before or while you were typing was a big mistake. And, I disagree. Its material is important to know because your lack of knowledge on the subject makes you appear foolish, and the opinions of fools are less likely to be accepted by those of intelligence.


I was thinking before I was typing, my point is just that I was thinking about my argument and what I could compare that situation to, I decided to use the Statue of liberty. After my basic argument I decided I could mention how the radish is alive and the statue isn't. I wrote that the radish is alive and not made of stone.
I wasn't thinking about it's material, I was thinking about it's statueness, and the default material for statues in my head is stone. The problem just came from the fact that I was thinking more about my metaphor then the statue's material.

So when someone pointed out it was made from copper I changed it.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Archon on November 21, 2005, 10:46:37 PM
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Down, boy.

Hey, it's a nasty job, but someone has to do it.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Faster Master St. Pastor on November 21, 2005, 11:56:14 PM
This is pointless.

I command:

LET IT CONTINUE!
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 22, 2005, 09:35:53 AM
I don't think the comparison's valid at all.

But I don't think it really matters anyway.

I still think the vegetable lovers are silly.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Lightning Eater on November 22, 2005, 05:54:45 PM
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I don't think the comparison's valid at all.

But I don't think it really matters anyway.

I still think the vegetable lovers are silly.


I have to get out of the habit of using analogies whenever I wan't to prove something, because when I can't think up a good example I end up just using a bad one. Anyway, imagine my post was something more like; "just try to sypathize with them" or "look at things from their point of view" or whatever.

Look at me, the valiant defender of vegetable worshippers.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 23, 2005, 08:38:22 AM
btw, great avatar.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Nessa on November 23, 2005, 10:49:13 AM
http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/va/20051122/113270795400.html

Because, I guess, 50 cent is a role model for parents.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Skar on November 23, 2005, 11:56:14 AM
He makes a surprisingly lucid point:

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"The person that's influenced by a video game can be influenced by anything," he said.

"If we have to take away video games, then we have to think about other things," he said. "And then we have no entertainment because we might influence somebody who's crazy."
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 23, 2005, 12:25:46 PM
Naturally. Anyone who says video games don't affect people is talking out of their arse. Seriously. EVERY media you expose yourself to affects you. Books, movies, music, whatever.

However, people who say that playing GTA is going to turn you into a serial killer aren't just talking out of their arse, they're ignoring psychological principles entirely. Reading the bible a couple times doesn't make you a saint. A few games of GTA isn't going to make you run over your brother.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Entsuropi on November 23, 2005, 02:03:30 PM
As someone who plays a lot of violent games, I've got a bit to add. It is stress relieving, it is entertaining, when done well it can evoke emotions (Halo 2 and Half life 2 were particularly good at making you feel like a hero who was looked up to by people). But to say that by playing a game your going to go insane and froth at the mouth is just BS. Watching a movie will have the exact same effect - Troy, for example, reminded me of playing Halo 2. Because of the emotions it made flare up.

Many things will anger you. Playing a game will, generally, relieve that anger (unless it's a MMORPG and your dealing with idiotic teammates >_>). It's just the same principle as someone who gets a punching bag and exercises on it when they have a bad day at work. Some people have got it into their minds that running over someone on a TV screen is the worst thing a person can do.

These people are the same kind as those who opposed Rock Music back in the 60's. Who opposed blacks getting the vote. Who now oppose homosexuals getting treated like the decent human beings they are and getting fair and equal treatment. They get so caught up in their narrow, petty mindset of 'our values', they refuse to believe that just because they don't understand or enjoy something doesn't make it automatically evil. Those kind of people evoke more anger in me than any number of games or films or songs will do.

And now, a smiley. :)
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 23, 2005, 02:56:40 PM
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These people are the same kind as those who opposed Rock Music back in the 60's. Who opposed blacks getting the vote. Who now oppose homosexuals


I think you're going a little far with this, personally.

I've never heard of anyone getting killed because they played a violent video game.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Archon on November 23, 2005, 08:30:48 PM
It doesn't matter whether they have been killed or not. I would be surprised if someone were killed because they played violent games, because it would only undermine their point. However, they still attack, in their own way. They attack at ideals, and, thereby, at freedoms.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Faster Master St. Pastor on November 24, 2005, 01:39:07 PM
Yah? Well your mom is a girl!

Sorry, just had to do that.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on November 25, 2005, 02:11:25 AM
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the statue of liberty isn't as much a symbol of american society and ideals as it is a pretty statue lots of peole know)

...anyway my point was that it IS (supposed to be) a symbol of American society and ideals, and I doubt very many people in the U.S. who know about it at all don't know that it is a symbol of American society and ideals, and I doubt that pretty much anyone who believes it is a pretty statue doesn't know that it is a symbol of American society and ideals.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: 42 on November 25, 2005, 06:20:21 AM
I tend to think that trivalizing symbols is a dangerous thing to do. It kind of ignores all the non-verbal communication that goes on in the world. Something that profoundly affects people wether they are aware of it or not.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Faster Master St. Pastor on November 25, 2005, 01:13:00 PM
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Something that profoundly affects people wether they are aware of it or not.


Like video games and the movies. Just like that article was pitching, if not as direly as they would like us to believe.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Harbinger on November 29, 2005, 11:28:13 AM
Video games haven't affected me in the slightest. I go out every weekend and blow ducks away with my .45 just like everyone else.
Though, I am a little worried that nobody I talk to hates mushrooms as much as I do.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 29, 2005, 11:37:08 AM
Who wouldn't? What with their mind control spores and their distinct lack of recognition of personal space.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on November 29, 2005, 07:35:51 PM
Who writes these headlines?

"Vibrating chickens set stage for cyberhugs"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10243378/
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 30, 2005, 09:11:41 AM
Why? Because you want the job?
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on November 30, 2005, 02:50:40 PM
Of course I do! I write ridiculous sentences all the time, I'd love to get paid for it!
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: 42 on January 23, 2006, 09:46:44 AM
Stupid! (http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/161316/)

Please note that I don't like refering to people as being stupid, but being that stubborn and disobedient makes one deserving of the label.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 23, 2006, 10:05:51 AM
I don't mind calling stupid where stupid is warranted. What that guy is pretty much dictionary definition stupid.
Title: Re: Weird stuff in the news
Post by: Nessa on January 23, 2006, 12:24:16 PM
My husband is a resident up at the U, and tells stories about patients on dialysis who will go out for a smoke break. That is stupid. They could drop dead where they stand it's so dangerous (OK, maybe I exaggerate, but still...). Can't keep from smoking to save their own lives.