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Title: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on March 14, 2004, 05:05:28 PM
Prince Imrahil, the king/prince of Dol Amroth... he's got like two lines in the whole book and yet he seems like a noble and dynamic character....
Plus he has his own army and banner...
Go Swan!
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Slant on March 14, 2004, 11:26:12 PM
Haldir.  He had all of three lines in the second film before he becomes orc-kebob, but he has one of the cooler back stories in the novels.

Plus the Mouth of Sauron, just because he looked so incredibly cool in the old animated version of Return of the King.  They are sticking his cut scene in the dvd release.
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on March 14, 2004, 11:46:44 PM
Helm Hammerhand... how cool was he?
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Fellfrosch on March 15, 2004, 05:52:51 PM
His character in the movie, by the way, was played by the Gyro Captain from the Mad Max movies (or, for a more recent reference, the Train Man from Matrix Revolutions). I love that actor.
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Sminja on April 07, 2004, 12:00:24 AM
I like Deagol, the original "owner" of the ring (after Isildur, of course. Correct me if I'm wrong about that one.) Well, I don't know if I'm qualified to say Deagol, because he got killed, if I recall...
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Tekiel on April 08, 2004, 06:37:56 PM
I guess, technically, Deagal was one of it's owners, though that lasted a whole five minutes till Smeagal killed him.
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Sminja on April 08, 2004, 11:51:57 PM
I wonder if Deagol would have turned out the same way as Smeagol if he had been corrupted by the ring....probably  ;D

BTW, Tekiel, congrats on your promotion from Flea-ridden Gutter Crawler to Beggar. Nice work! ;)
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Tekiel on April 09, 2004, 12:48:30 AM
Thank you!  ;D I actually worked a bit more than normal to get the upgrade (as you can tell from my rabblings as of late). :P
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on April 09, 2004, 12:49:20 AM
I think that if I had more time on my hands I could use Deagol and  Smeagal to write the Middle Earth version of Fox In Sox.
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Brenna on April 09, 2004, 01:10:55 AM
ooooh!  If you did do that, I'd help. :)
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 09, 2004, 07:50:49 AM
Deagol would have taken longer, I think. He wouldn't have been a murderer (perhaps in self defense though, and that could make him feel guilty enough to flee and hate himself, I suppose) and had to have left his village so soon.
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Slant on April 09, 2004, 10:59:43 PM
Smeagol was something of a bad egg even before he set eyes on his precious.
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Sminja on April 09, 2004, 11:29:21 PM
That's true. So maybe Deagol would be more gentle, instead of the writhing, fish-eating, cave-dwelling Gollum.
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 09, 2004, 11:48:27 PM
a kinder, gentler gollum would bite Frodo's finger off then?
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Slant on April 10, 2004, 12:22:48 AM
Yes, but he would feel gosh-darned awful about it afterwards.
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Sminja on April 10, 2004, 12:28:55 AM
Well maybe if Gollum wwas kinder and gentler than he wouldn't bite Fordo's finger off in the first place. Maybe if he was nicer it would drastically alter the series...
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 10, 2004, 12:36:13 AM
well, that would suck. If Gollum doesn't bites the finger, than Sauron will get the ring.
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Master Xaio on April 10, 2004, 07:47:38 AM
So?
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: Tekiel on April 10, 2004, 01:40:19 PM
I disagree.  I don't think Deagol would have become a gollum.  I think, eventually, one of Sauran's allies (or foes) would have found Deagol and taken the ring from him.  Remember, Smeagol liked looking down at the earth and didn't like the sun before he found the ring.  Therefore it made sense for him to hide away in the mountain.  Deagol didn't seem like the type to want to climb into a mountain to "get away from the nasty sun."  Thereby exposing the ring to any and all who had the power to feel it's strength.
Title: Re: Favorite barely mentioned character in LOTR..
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 10, 2004, 03:59:51 PM
well, he wouldn't have become gollum, but he would have been corrupted. and he would have known he needed to hide the ring away. Remember, the ring CHOSE smeagol, so it could hide itself till Sauron was ready. if Deagol had ended up with the ring, he would have hidden away somewhere.