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Title: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Thermos on June 24, 2006, 06:25:00 PM

[This is just Some angsty seventeen year old ranting on about how her parents are ruining her life]

Okay, I know that this is a typical senario. Girl get permission to attend a concert three hours away even though her parents are extremely strict. She gets excited beyond all reason because she beat the odds.
Then she goes out one night to her friend's house after spending all day down town, and ends up calling Mom to ask to stay later, and arriving home at 1:22 am..

So, I know it seems weird, but I can totally take this all on myself and I know that I screwed up, seriously. But it drives me insane because there was no possible compromise. I insisted that I could clean and maintain all rooms in the house without being allowed out with friends and that my parents could keep me to this for as long as they wish if they would let me just have the concert back. My friend's Mom bought me the ticket in thanks and now, She has an extra ticket and nothing to do for it.
Obviously, the compromise did nothing for me, for here I am!

The reason they refused my deal, was because they decided that by letting down on their punishment, they were letting me off the hook and that way, I wouldn't learn a thing, But I have.

It drive me insane.. parents are always the winners of these battles. But hey that's life right?
D:
-Thermos

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Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on June 24, 2006, 06:33:02 PM

Would it be strange if I didn't say what I was thinking? Very well.

I am also very distraught on whether or not this is legit, the text being smaller and positioned center all point to doubt. I am doubtful!

And you should yell at your parents, "confounded parents!"

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Entsuropi on June 24, 2006, 07:21:13 PM

I wonder if saint will start taking notes. This is what, 14 years away for you, SE?

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: 42 on June 24, 2006, 07:59:17 PM

I'm so glad not to be in those teenage years.

So for adivce, typically it takes five or more trust gaining actions to counter one trust losing action. Depends on how trusting the individual is normally.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Nessa on June 25, 2006, 04:28:27 PM

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... parents are always the winners of these battles. But hey that's life right?

Hey. I'm a parent...but then, she won't be a teenager for six more years, so I have time to work up my battle strategy.

But you're right. The parents are always the winners. And that's because they're smarter than you. And also probably because they provide for you, and give you a place to live, and things to eat, and if you want to keep these perks, you probably ought to comply. So, really, I have no sympathy.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 25, 2006, 04:30:22 PM

I was the "good child" as a teenager. I was always home on time and didn't get into trouble.   It's not that freaking hard.  You have to prioritize what you want in life, and if you can just prove yourself responsible you'll get a lot more freedom. My sister never understood that and was grounded more often than not.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Spriggan on June 25, 2006, 06:34:31 PM

It was the same way with my parents Fuzzy.  By the time of my Junior and Senior years I could really do just about anything as long as they knew who I was with and where I was going.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: The Lost One on June 25, 2006, 11:56:01 PM

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It drive me insane.. parents are always the winners of these battles. But hey that's life right?

Yes, parents win. Part of the the reason why parents always win this battle is because teenagers have little to no leverage over their parents. Parents get to lay down the law. This may seem harsh to many teenagers but as I explain to my sons (whom are not teenagers  :)) and to the youth that I work with (whom are close to being teenagers or are teenagers  :-[), parents really do care about their kids and what the best for them.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Archon on June 26, 2006, 12:05:44 AM

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And that's because they're smarter than you.

Not always. I don't know enough about Thermos, or her parents to really say in this case, but parents are not always smarter, nor are they always right. I will say that they are right in this case, because she did, in fact, break the rules, and so they are well within reasonable bounds to hold her to her punishment. And I also agree with Fuzzy and Sprig that if you are responsible, then you will get much less flak from your parents than if you flout their authority.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Nessa on June 26, 2006, 02:03:15 AM

tsk tsk, Archon. You know I only said that because I am a parent.

But then again, you likely take umbridge because you are a teenager yourself.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Archon on June 26, 2006, 04:19:54 AM

Yes, but since so many of the members are older and/or parents, these types of conversations have a tendency to be a bit one-sided. Therefore, I sometimes feel the need to try and defend the underrepresented teens. By the way, I can tell you have been reading Harry Potter. Though the woman's name is "Umbridge", the word itself is "umbrage."  ;)

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Nessa on June 26, 2006, 04:32:37 AM

Heh. You're right. That's what I get for trying to use big words so late at night.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 26, 2006, 12:06:38 PM

no, parents aren't *always* right, but they're right MUCH more often than their teenage children give them credit for.

Parent usually do what they do in terms of rules because they want to protect their children. There are a  few that are just bad parents, but that's not common.  Maybe they're over zealous occasionally in being protective, but you need to realize that they *are* looking out for your interests.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Archon on June 26, 2006, 06:37:02 PM

Been there, had that debate. I don't really want to get into it again.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: The Jade Knight on June 30, 2006, 07:29:52 PM

"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years."
- Mark Twain

I was (and, to an extent, still am) the black sheep of the family - never got along very well with my parents until I left the house, after which I got along with them wonderfully.  Fact of the matter is that my ideas of what is good for me were (and, to a degree, still are) different of theirs.  It's just a matter of being smart about it - my parents have never had to worry about what I was doing with my friends, because, as a rule, I had very good friends and I was LESS social than they wanted me to be (they had to bribe me to go to Prom.  Twice).

Some parents are just hard to get along with.  Mine were easier than some, and worse than some.  I have one friend who, even when she was 17, her father would never let her hang out anywhere there would be males without having a member of the family accompany her (even if there would be other women present, or he knew everyone who would be there).  I consider his actions a little severe...

But it's all relative, eh?

...I'm just glad I don't live with my parents anymore.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Harbinger on July 01, 2006, 01:18:33 AM

Most familial problems are relative.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on July 01, 2006, 01:49:37 PM

I have know some downright unreasonable parents however, unreasonable to the point of abusing their children. Take Clay for instance, clay was 14 lived in a townhouse complex and was not allowed to cross the street by his parents. Except the way the complex was shaped he had to cross the street to do anything. So seriously he wasnt really even allowed to leave his little 10x10 foot front yard.

He almost cried every time my friends and I rode up on our bikes.

It wasn't untill he was out of highschool that he could do anything.

Thats just evil IMHO.

Title: Re: 05Parental Units and their Logic to Dominate
Post by: Harbinger on July 02, 2006, 01:27:04 AM

It's crippling. Some parents have a desire to protect their kids from everything, then when the kids get out into  the real world, they can't handle anything. Part of growing up and learning to take care of yourself is hardship and suffering.