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Title: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 06, 2006, 02:19:29 PM
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but they did at least make some cool toys.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: FirstMateJack on July 06, 2006, 04:34:37 PM
You're just jealous that a movie about ninjas would bever be as popular.  

;D
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on July 06, 2006, 07:16:17 PM
Of course there will be a sequel - it's in production right now, and schedule for release next year.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Skar on July 06, 2006, 07:24:54 PM
And whether or not the audience follows any movie news at all the film itself leaves absolutely no doubt.  With a hammer.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: caiticlu on July 06, 2006, 09:04:57 PM
Im inclined to agree with that review pretty much entirely. I was entertained, but I left the theater exclaiming, "What the HECK was that?!" and walked home imitating the Jack/Elizabeth swagger (since she has begun to adopt his style of walking).
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Shrain on July 06, 2006, 10:42:05 PM
Nooooo! Why can't we have a *good* sequel! :'( Now I am depressed. After X3, I hoped that Jack at least wouldn't let me down. Guess it's a good thing I am poor and probably can't go unless I get asked out. haha. :P
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 06, 2006, 11:47:03 PM
Well hopefully my mom will pay for us to go see this on Monday so until then I'm not looking at nothing 'cause I don't want to go into it expecting it to suck.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Skar on July 07, 2006, 01:53:33 PM
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'cause I don't want to go into it expecting it to suck.

Sounds like it's too late.

It didn't "suck." It just wasn't very good.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 07, 2006, 02:04:51 PM
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Sounds like it's too late.

It didn't "suck." It just wasn't very good.


Well I saw it's only got a 52% on Rotten Tomatoes. But that doesn't necessarily mean anything to me because I don't see this being a critic-friendly movie necessarily.

So, we'll see.  You're not one of the people who I seem to ever agree on movies with, so I still hold out hope.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Parker on July 07, 2006, 03:39:09 PM
The first one got about a 75%, but I was looking at the two sets of reviews and it was pretty interesting: some of the people who hated the first one are now praising the second for the things they didn't like about the first, and some of the people who liked the first are criticizing the second for the same things, as well.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: House of Mustard on July 07, 2006, 04:22:36 PM
I think this is interesting:  three out of four reviews I've read today (Skar's being the exception) say that they gave the first movie a bad review, but in retrospect it was really awesome.  And then they gave this one a bad review.

I wonder if this one will turn out the same way.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Entsuropi on July 07, 2006, 08:29:15 PM
I saw it today. I thought it was a great, really enjoyable but brainless romp. Very funny moments, some nice action, and about 3 clever lines in the whole movie. It's basically exactly the same as the first one, only with a different plot. If you liked the first, you should like this one.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: stacer on July 08, 2006, 02:19:13 AM
I just got home from watching it, and other than having little closure at the end, I loved it. And be sure to stay to watch till the end of the credits.

A couple sitting next to me left right in the middle of it, so I suppose they disagreed, but I laughed and was amazed and startled at all the right places. I didn't know what to expect going in--didn't read any reviews--so I suppose I was pleasantly surprised. But I love the first one and rewatch it periodically, so perhaps it's just me.

Also, I thought the fight scenes, especially the one between Jack-Will-Commodor were hilarious. The slimyness was downright gross, but I'll get over it.

Oh, and this was definitely set pre-Victorian era. I'm pretty sure this was about right at 1800 or before, more likely even late 1700s. They refer to "the king," for one. Victoria's reign began in 1837 and ended in 1901 (drilled into my head in my Victorian class).
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: CookieReaver on July 08, 2006, 06:09:55 AM
I rather enjoyed this one myself. The first was better in my mind, simply for being a little more origonal (of course, it's had to make a sequel origional). But over all, this was a good movie, and I'm probably going to go see it again soon.

Also, I liked how there were so many mini-plots, that sort of almost tied together. It stopped it from being too  predictable.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Entsuropi on July 08, 2006, 07:55:19 AM
Stacer, could you tell me what happens after the credits in a PM? We left while the credits were still running.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: stacer on July 08, 2006, 12:22:07 PM
Sent.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Entsuropi on July 08, 2006, 01:12:46 PM
Thanks stacer. It's about what i'd expect - the film doesn't lend itself to shattering conclusions.

Wish they would stop putting things after the credits though.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: caiticlu on July 08, 2006, 06:48:41 PM
Oo, me too? Can you please tell me what happened at the credits? My friends dragged me out of there before I got to see it. Thanks!!
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Harbinger on July 08, 2006, 07:29:22 PM
It's not worth sitting through the credits for.
Imo, the first one was better, but I still enjoyed the sequel.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: MsFish on July 09, 2006, 08:02:01 PM
This was quite possibly one of the worst movies I've seen in a long time.  I didn't expect it to be as good as the first one, but I also didn't expect it to be so awful.  I think the review is rather kind to it.  How disappointing.  
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Parker on July 09, 2006, 10:16:02 PM
Well, it made $132 million opening weekend, passing Spiderman II by about $15 million or so for the best opening ever.  Bad, awful or wonderful, Disney's laughing all the way to the bank.  It'll be interesting to see what the second week brings for it.  It's hanging strong at a 7.9 on IMDB, with over 4,000 votes, so thus far, it seems the majority of people really enjoy it.  (As a comparison, Return of the King, the #4 rated movie on IMDB, got an 8.9.  Pirates 1, with a 7.8, is 240th of all time.)  I'd like to see this film in theaters, all things considered, and I don't get to go to theaters often.

Meanwhile, Superman's dropped down to about $22 million for the weekend, putting it at like $140 million so far.  That was a surprise to me--I thought it'd stand up better on its second weekend.  Guess most people voted for Pirates.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 10, 2006, 09:59:51 AM
I think the second weekend of Supes was lost to Pirates.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Spriggan on July 10, 2006, 12:42:37 PM
Boxoffice mojo lists Pirates and bad word of mouth for Supes decline.  I'll probably see it again, just because I enjoyed X3 so much more the second time, but I need to see Pirates 2 before I do that.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: CtrlZed on July 10, 2006, 01:10:29 PM
I agree with Fish.  This was one of the most disappointing movies I've ever seen.  The characters were trivialized to the point that I began to hate some of them and actually didn't care about them anymore.  I practically ran out of the theater.

The special effects, however, were beautifully done.  (But that doesn't make up for a painfully convoluted, confusing, and contrived storyline.)
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 10, 2006, 10:50:20 PM
Oh, I liked it all, especially the extensive sword fighting and the animation on Davy Jones. They did a great job with him.  Some of the sword fights made me keep thinking of Princess Bride. Orlando Bloom will get to be this generation's Cary Elwes!

I'm glad I went to see this one.  It was just fun, gosh people what do you expect out of a Pirate movie, based on an amusement park ride at that?
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 10, 2006, 11:25:23 PM
The worst part was the part where we tried, unsucessfully, to explain "Snakes on a Plane" to my mom.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on July 11, 2006, 12:56:53 AM
Did you scream Jacksons "catch-phrase" in her face?

"We got mother-fing snakes on a plane!"
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: caiticlu on July 11, 2006, 10:46:45 AM
Im not so sure I see Orlando becoming like Cary Elwes...
I thought the sword fights in this were kind of lacking. Lets see how many crazy wacky things we can do while trying to have a sword fight!
Hamster wheels, climbing things, too much focus on the running around part of it, and not enough on the actual swordplay.
The first movie had the crazy run around do wierd stuff, but they showed skill with a sword, I dont think this one did that.
But thats just my opinion.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 11, 2006, 11:11:32 AM
oh, you and your opinions.  ;D
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on July 11, 2006, 11:36:42 AM
I've been going into this one with  some trepidation, because of the 'back to back format" they are susing to shoot the sequels (which usually leads to a second film that feels like it's just a commericla for the third, and a third that goes nowhere), and while it did show signs of that syndrome, the bottom line is that it was a lot of fun, and I will definitely see it multiple times.

I know everyone is going on about Depp, as well they should, but I have to say that I really liked Orlando Bloom in this one. He just keeps getting better with each film, and no one out there does action better. The fight on the wheel was incredible.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on July 11, 2006, 11:39:21 AM
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Im not so sure I see Orlando becoming like Cary Elwes...


You mean having a career that goes nowhere, giving a terrible performance in "Twister," and then fading into oblivion? Even if Bloom never makes another movie, he's had more success tahn Elwes, who is only noteworthy for "Bride" and "Glory."
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 11, 2006, 12:14:50 PM
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Im not so sure I see Orlando becoming like Cary Elwes...
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You mean having a career that goes nowhere, giving a terrible performance in "Twister," and then fading into oblivion? Even if Bloom never makes another movie, he's had more success tahn Elwes, who is only noteworthy for "Bride" and "Glory."



I meant more in the "every young girl growing up will fall madly in love with him when they watch this movie" sort of way.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on July 11, 2006, 08:49:19 PM
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I meant more in the "every young girl growing up will fall madly in love with him when they watch this movie" sort of way.


That makes a lot more sense. And I must say, I forgot two other good performances from him - his guest shot on "Seinfeld" and his turn as John Houseman in "Cradle Will Rock."
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: caiticlu on July 11, 2006, 09:06:39 PM
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You mean having a career that goes nowhere, giving a terrible performance in "Twister," and then fading into oblivion? Even if Bloom never makes another movie, he's had more success tahn Elwes, who is only noteworthy for "Bride" and "Glory."


Robin Hood Men in Tights.... he was good in that too...

They both have the eyecandy factor, but I do believe that is a good point. Orlando's already more successful.

I was so depressed by the quivering pile of yuck that Cary was in Saw, thats for sure. Because, yes, after Bride and Robin I fell in love with him - like any good young little stereotyped girl.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Skar on July 12, 2006, 01:14:32 AM
I thought Cary was great in Saw.  Unfortunately, acting the role really well meant that the audience should hate him.  We did.  Nicely put, by the way, "quivering pile of yuck"  pithy.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Parker on July 12, 2006, 02:23:57 AM
Just saw Pirates.  I enjoyed it, overall, although a lot depends on the third, since this was basically only half a movie.  If the third capitalizes on the setup here, though, I think the trilogy could be pretty darned good.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Calaros on July 12, 2006, 03:26:38 PM
I just went to see this movie a couple of days ago, and I have to say it was brilliant :) Although having said that, I really must agree with a part of the review. The part in question would be that it just doesn't seem as clever or immersing as the old one. But damn, the ending is great ;D At least IMO.

(Oh yeah: w00t my first post in this forum!)
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Fellfrosch on July 12, 2006, 06:00:44 PM
Hi Calaros, make sure to introduce yourself and read the FAQ. A better man than might even link you to them, but they're up at the top somewhere.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Elizabeth226 on July 14, 2006, 04:26:51 PM
Hey!!
Can Someone Please Help.....???? ???
My Friends Didnt Want To Stay While The Credits Were Running So We Left....So I Missed The Very Last Bit After The Credits.Could Anyone Please Enlighten Me As To What Happened.
Thankyou______x
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: 42 on July 16, 2006, 01:09:23 PM
So I saw this a couple days ago.

It really isn't that bad of a film.

I mostly agree with the Gibbs review.

So the end credit scene...SPOILER

after the end of the credits, you go back to the island and see the cannibal natives dancing. Sitting on the throne is the prison dog holding a bone in it's mouth.

end SPOILER.

See, you really didn't miss much.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Fellfrosch on July 17, 2006, 06:59:25 PM
Elizabeth: please note that we only allow entire sentences written in title case on Title Case Day. I know it's a really fun holiday and all, we'd like it to be all year-round, but please refrain and use regular sentence case the rest of the year. It makes Title Case Day that much more special.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: medrx on July 17, 2006, 08:42:24 PM
Finally got to see Pirates today.  I thought it was very satisfying.  It has the making to be a great second chapter of an overall wonderful trilogy.  Reminded me a bit of Empire Strikes back in that way.  Dark, revelations, a bit more romantic, tense, and leaves you with a little feeling of "qua"?  Not bad, not bad at all...
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: FirstMateJack on July 17, 2006, 08:59:14 PM
I liked it too.

I can see why some people didn't. It had a ton of plot, did not end, and had a ton of slap you in the face drama and action.

Oh, and the fact that Jack seemed to be idolized through out the entire show. That did bug me quite a bit.

Anyway! I will like to see the third.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Harbinger on July 18, 2006, 01:23:17 AM
I've realized one of the things that bugged me about it. I wasn't emotionally involved. Like the bits with the kraken? Meh. I could appreciate the quality of the CGI, but I just didn't care what happened. Or the whole bit with Will on Davy Jones' ship. It didn't pull me in.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: stacer on July 18, 2006, 02:24:31 AM
That's how I felt about X3, but this one was a little more fun than X3, so I suppose I got into Pirates more.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: 42 on July 18, 2006, 03:44:45 AM
There wasn't a lot to invest in emotionally with this movie. The character conflicts got tossed to the side for the most part. I found the end to have some emotionaly involvement, but it was just too late by then.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: FirstMateJack on July 18, 2006, 01:20:14 PM
I noticed the same thing.. You see what, like 3 different crews to the ship, and they all die. And then other crews..And you know that no one you know or care about (if you indeed did care bout them) was going to die.

As a general rule of thumb, don't get attached to anyone who was not in, or at least mentioned by name in the first movie, and you won't have to worry about them dying. Everyone else is fish food.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on July 20, 2006, 03:13:24 PM
Astrid and I saw this last weekend for her Birthday (and that Dan Brown movie about Davinci) After watching pirates we walked out and she turned to me and said...

Well I like the movie, but I feel gypped.

That was untill we saw Davinci Code... when she turned to me and said, "well,... I feel less gypped about Pirates now."

And that was pretty much my problem with the movie too, the ending was (without knowing going in that it was a trilogy) a heck of a gyp. I mean they could have just put a big to be continued sign up for petes sake.

Other than that we were entertained. Our one comment is that someone needs to write Kira Knightly better parts. Her Im a girly girl one minute to stabbing people in the chest with a sword in each hand while running and fighting a battle with monsterous 6 foot tall demon-sailors is just bad writing, there isnt any need to make her as vulnerable as she acts during this movie.

It was just something that grated.
Title: Re: review: Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 20, 2006, 03:56:53 PM
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