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Title: Bush's UN Speech
Post by: Spriggan on September 12, 2002, 03:47:23 PM

Here's the transcript:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62886,00.html

Title: Re: Bush's UN Speech
Post by: House of Mustard on September 12, 2002, 05:54:54 PM

Sounds pretty good.  Here's an in depth report from the White House that was also released this morning:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/transcripts/whitehouse_iraq091202.htm

Here's one concern though:  After the speech, Turkey said they weren't in favor of military action.  Even if the U.S. goes in without the UN, they would still need the support of places like Turkey and Saudi Arabia to launch the attack from.

Title: Re: Bush's UN Speech
Post by: Spriggan on September 12, 2002, 07:23:44 PM

Huh up untill now Turkey said that they would support military action (FYI Turkey is the only Democratic Muslim Country).  Stupid Peer Pressure.

Title: Re: Bush's UN Speech
Post by: House of Mustard on September 13, 2002, 01:29:20 AM

Here's my guess (I haven't heard anyone saying this - it's just a hunch):  When the US goes in to Iraq, they're going to help them set up a better government and address some of the human rights issues.  One of the things they'll have to address is the issue of a Kurdish state.  The Kurds have wanted this for quite a while now.  If the US lets the Kurds of northern Iraq have their own government, what implications does that have for Turkey?  Nearly a third of Turkey is Kurdish, and they've been wanting a Kurdish state for a long time too.

While Turkey is a generally nice place and pretty friendly with the US, a restructuring of Iraq's government will have some pretty major consequences.  Whether it's good or bad, maybe Turkey is just a little skittish about the shake up.

Title: Re: Bush's UN Speech
Post by: Spriggan on September 16, 2002, 12:42:32 AM

I don't realy think we need a new topic on the basic Iraq debate so I'm throwing this up here.  This is an article giving a little insite into maybe why certain European Countries support/Don't support military action.
http://slate.msn.com/?id=2070880

Title: Re: Bush's UN Speech
Post by: House of Mustard on September 16, 2002, 08:34:25 PM

Well this was unexpected.  Who thought that Saddam had a rational bone in his body?
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/09/16/iraq.un.letter/index.html

Title: Re: Bush's UN Speech
Post by: Spriggan on September 30, 2002, 10:30:12 AM

here's a funny cartoon

http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/020929/horsey.gif

Title: Re: Bush's UN Speech
Post by: House of Mustard on September 30, 2002, 02:43:45 PM

Lol

Title: Re: Bush's UN Speech
Post by: House of Mustard on September 30, 2002, 02:44:16 PM

Oops - was that spam?  If it was, then this probably is too.

Title: Re: Bush's UN Speech
Post by: Spriggan on September 30, 2002, 02:58:06 PM

here's another good one (sence you liked the first).  
http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/020929/matson.gif