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General => Rants and Stuff => Topic started by: Mad Dr Jeffe on January 27, 2005, 03:42:09 AM
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Welcome Insomniacs and madmen... (and madwomen)
Anyone notice a platonic trend...
Dialogs,
Discourses
now all we have to do is the Republic of SFNC...
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Who, me?
I don't know if I'd say that.
You dont seem to be killing people and for the most part seem like your in good spirits...
Of course I could be wrong...
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Jeffe, its your fault. You called out the night owls who had nothing better to do.
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No, I'm not killing people. I'm fully functional. But I fight. Depression. Alot.
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Jeffe, its your fault. You called out the night owls who had nothing better to do.
Yes, I blame Jeffe. Bless you.
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Maybe you should think about what would make you happy. Can't get what you want if you don't know what you want.
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Of course we dont have anything better to do...
We're Superfly...
And Fishy, I know what your going through. Sometimes you just have to hang on to your sanity and fight off depression with bare bleeding knuckles, and sometimes you have to let the frustration and sadness out. Learning when to do it is really hard. Its also good that your learning now, and not 30 years from now...
Its the timebombs that are dangerous...
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No no no. I'm doing very very well now. I've learned to control it, for the most part. I've been through the whole, how am I going to get better thing, and I know what I want, and I'm actually getting there, which is amazing. It's a miracle, really.
Doesn't hurt that I have awesome friends helping me out. Brenna. Old One. Jason and Mandy. My roommates. You guys.
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Sweet.... she called us awesome...
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And Fishy, I know what your going through. Sometimes you just have to hang on to your sanity and fight off depression with bare bleeding knuckles, and sometimes you have to let the frustration and sadness out. Learning when to do it is really hard. Its also good that your learning now, and not 30 years from now...
Its the timebombs that are dangerous...
That's the darn truth.
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And if you ever need really expensive chocolate . . .
;D
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Sweet.... she called us awesome...
Well, duh!
I know what you mean about the timebomb thing. My mom was like that, and one day, she just lost it.
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And if you ever need really expensive chocolate . . .
;D
Charisa, I love you.
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And if you ever need really expensive chocolate . . .
;D
Why does she get all the free candy?
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or really really expensive chocolate... My second job is in a gourmet wine store...
We have some good chocolate.
I could even send some to a non girl Eagle.
But then it doesnt count as flirting. ;)
Oh, buy the Life Aquatic album for Seu Jorge's acoustic David Bowie Covers in Portugese. I assert that they will make a young girls heart melt...
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Jeffe, you're killing me.
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Jeffe, I thought you knew... I'm not a young girl. ???
:P ;)
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Why does she get all the free candy?
She bought me the love-poem candy from last night for my birthday. ;D
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This is such a cool cover of Life On Mars....
David Bowie - Life On Mars Lyrics
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It's a god-awful small affair
To the girl with the mousy hair
But her mummy is yelling "No"
And her daddy has told her to go
But her friend is nowhere to be seen
Now she walks through her sunken dream
To the seat with the clearest view
And she's hooked to the silver screen
But the film is a saddening bore
For she's lived it ten times or more
She could spit in the eyes of fools
As they ask her to focus on
Sailors fighting in the dance hall
Oh man! Look at those cavemen go
It's the freakiest show
Take a look at the Lawman
Beating up the wrong guy
Oh man! Wonder if he'll ever know
He's in the best selling show
Is there life on Mars?
It's on Amerikas tortured brow
That Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow
Now the workers have struck for fame
'Cause Lennon's on sale again
See the mice in their million hordes
From Ibeza to the Norfolk Broads
Rule Britannia is out of bounds
To my mother, my dog, and clowns
But the film is a saddening bore
'Cause I wrote it ten times or more
It's about to be writ again
As I ask you to focus on
Sailors fighting in the dance hall
Oh man! Look at those cavemen go
It's the freakiest show
Take a look at the Lawman
Beating up the wrong guy
Oh man! Wonder if he'll ever know
He's in the best selling show
Is there life on Mars?
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Jeffe, I thought you knew... I'm not a young girl. ???
:P ;)
Really? You had me fooled.
;D :P :-*
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Really? You had me fooled.
Must be the long hair and skirts.
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Killing you in a good way? Or a bad one. :-/
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Killing you in a good way? Or a bad one. :-/
In the best way. Chocolate........ ;D
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Must be the long hair and skirts.
Now you're just scary. What kind of Prince Charming are you?
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the effeminate kind...
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That Blanxart stuff that's imported from Spain . . . $8 a bar.
But GOOD stuff.
Wait. What love poem?
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some one slept through our poetry last night......
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That Blanxart stuff that's imported from Spain . . . $8 a bar.
But GOOD stuff.
Wait. What love poem?
Ninja monkeys put a love poem on the inside of my candy bar wrapper. See last nights night crew.
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Oh, and to mark the changing of my avatar again I also changed my mp3 soundclip too...
listen if you dare....
Muhahahahaha!
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Was it you, Jeffe, or Spriggan who had pleurisy a few months ago?
Anyway, I've kinda got something like that. I was hacking up a lung at TLE last night, and sleep is kind of a good thing when I'm sick.
Yeah. That explains why I'm up now, doesn't it.
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Wow. I was so popular that I got to join the circus!
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I thought it was EUOL...
but Im sorry you hurt...
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I thought it was HoM.
Old One, go to bed!
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Wow. I was so popular that I got to join the circus!
I forgot how easy it was to level back then...
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Wait, Jeffe, did you change your avatar?
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one of those TLE guys..
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Yes I had dangermouse for a couple of hours...
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Well, easy when you're sending 100 posts in a night.
Oh yeah, I remember the mouse now.
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Now you're just scary. What kind of Prince Charming are you?
The kind from Scotland, home of the kilt! Harhar.
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Penfeld! Shush!
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Dont mind the title its a kickin song...
David Bowie
"Queen B@#ch"
I'm up on the eleventh floor
And I'm watching the cruisers below
My heart's in the basement
My weekend's
at an all time low
He's down on the street
And he's trying hard
to pull sister Flo
'Cause she's hoping to score
So I can't see her
letting him go
Walk out of her heart
Walk out of her mind
[CHORUS]
She's so swishy in her satin and tat
In her frock coat
and bipperty-bopperty hat
Oh God, I could do better than that
She's an old-time ambassador
Of sweet talking, night walking games
And she's known in the darkest clubs
For pushing ahead of the dames
If she says she can do it
Then she can do it,
she don't make false claims
But she's a Queen,
and such are queens
That your laughter
is sucked in their brains
Now she's leading him on
And she'll lay him right down
But it could have been me
Yes, it could have been me
Why didn't I say,
why didn't I say, no, no, no
[CHORUS]
So I lay down a while
And I look at my hotel wall
Oh the cot is so cold
It don't feel like no bed at all
Yeah I lay down a while
And I look at my hotel wall
But he's down on the street
So I throw both his bags down the hall
And I'm phoning a cab
'Cause my stomach feels small
There's a taste in my mouth
And it's no taste at all
It could have been me
Oh yeah, it could have been me
Why didn't I say,
Why didn't I say, no, no, no
[CHORUS]
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The kind from Scotland, home of the kilt! Harhar.
Hmmm. Are we Scottish?
So, what do we think? Green fish or Pink fish?
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Im green with envy, ...
well that and its my favorite color...
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David Bowie recalls really bad costume Labyrinth flashbacks.
That's what that movie needed. A dragon.
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I can't decide if I'm disturbed by that song or not.
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Hmmm. Are we Scottish?
Um, no... but the Highlander is so I adopted it.
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It was HoM with the pleurisy.
I know what you mean, Old One. I've had a sinus infection for about 4 weeks now, and now I have some lovely insomnia tonight from all the Sudafed I've been on. I lay in bed last night for about 2 1/2 hours, thinking that if I just breathed deeply, I would soon drop off.
No.
It's 3am, guys.
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and its my favorite color...
Well, there we go.
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I'm sorry, Stacer. That sucks. It is only 1 am, here.
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I think if I laid down at this point, I might actually fall asleep. But it wasn't working at 11, or midnight, or 1.
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Penfeld! Shush!
HA, Now theres a girl whos honest about her age,...
;) can you lend me your walker, Im having back problems... and I need to go to the store to get new dentures...
Just kidding... but man did it make me feel old to have no one know that show...
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I can relate, Stacer. The lung thing is from a sinus infection I've been fighting for about 3 months through at least 6 courses of antibiotics and has spread to my ear and lungs.
Loverly, isn't it? Well, if Rob survived, hopefully I will.
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29? Your a geezer in another year.
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I can pretty much sleep anywhere at any time...
Its a military trick...
basically you keep yourself completely exhausted at all times....
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HA, Now theres a girl whos honest about her age,...
can you lend me your walker, Im having back problems... and I need to go to the store to get new dentures...
*Old One smacks Mad Dr. Jeffe upside the head
Now, if you remember Bananaman or SuperChicken (or maybe even Underdog) . . .
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Your only as old as you think you are...
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/me imitates Johnny Depp
"now that I deserved"
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Old One is 630-something years old, right?
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She claims to be 98 on her profile...
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it says 98...
Oh and Stacer the Poster about not sacrificing cats was really funny...
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632, according to Brenna. I'm feeling it tonight.
I should email EUOL about the writing group, shouldn't I?
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It wouldn't let her be as old as she is. Stupid ageist program...
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Charisa, if you don't, I will.
I can't believe you haven't done it yet.
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Email, yes or you could leave a flaming bag outside his door.
That might be more fun.
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it says 93...
:quickly edits:
it says 98...
Yeah, that's what I thought, old man. Put your glasses on, shesh. ;D
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Only if she takes me with her. Leaving things on EUOL's doorstep is my trademark.
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Yeah, that's what I thought, old man. Put your glasses on, shesh. ;D
LOL. Y'all crack me up.
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I'm just worried he'll make me stay because if I move to another group, that group will be hopeless.
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LOL Im a greater Hippy....
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How would that be different than the situation you're in now? It's worth a try.
Stress the part about how you really need good feedback because you've been waiting five years to write this story.
Okay, probably leave out the five years part. But still.
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Hippy is what my mother calls me. Then again, my mother went through her Hippie phase . . . I still can't stand paisley.
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LOL Im a greater Hippy....
Were you a lesser one before?
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Yeah, that's what I thought, old man. Put your glasses on, shesh.
Quiet you little sprog, else I find a switch and thrash you like my forefathers did of old... ;D
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Yeah. He'd call me a classic case of worldbuilder's disease.
I'll do it when I email this week's submission. He's in our lovely group on Tuesday. Of course, if I wait until then he can see for himself . . .
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Actually no... its the first time I've been a hippy...
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(or maybe even Underdog) . . .
I used to watch Underdog. We'd go to my sister's best friend's house for lunch the year I was in first grade, because she lived down the street from the school, and Underdog was on during lunchtime. TV during school! It was great. And--does anyone remember the Great Space Coaster? (Get on board!)
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What is worldbuilder's disease?
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Hippy is what my mother calls me. Then again, my mother went through her Hippie phase . . . I still can't stand paisley.
Somehow, I can't picture you as a hippie. You're like the anti-hippie.
I should know. I lived in Santa Cruz for a year, home of wishing it was still the sixties.
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You could always bribe him with chocolate...
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Speed of lightning, roar of thunder, fighting all who rob or blunder... underdog... du du du du, underdog, underdog!
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What is worldbuilder's disease?
What Old One has, where you just keep working on your world forever and never actually write the story.
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You could always bribe him with chocolate...
Probably only if he's me.
Don't waste the chocolate on him! Come on!
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Now, if you remember Bananaman or SuperChicken (or maybe even Underdog) . . .
I'll see your Banannaman and Underdog and Raise you an HR Puffenstuff
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Jeffe: That's very impressive, skipping lesser hippy entirely.
Old One: if you don't do it now he's probably not going to let you switch. He said that in class yesterday was probably the only time he'd offer, and you're already past that. Just send the email.
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Well, I do the (almost) vegan thing, and I like poet shirts . . . But I swore in junior high that I'd never wear bell-bottoms, not matter what they're called.
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What Old One has, where you just keep working on your world forever and never actually write the story.
Oh, I got that too. I was calling it perfectionist... guess I was in denial.
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yeah, but the vegan thing isnt exactly all your choice...
considering real food could kill you....
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And I swore in the early nineties when I was like eight that I would never again wear tapered jeans. I can't even stand boot cut. It's flares, all the way.
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Oh, I got that too. I was calling it perfectionist... guess I was in denial.
Perfectionism, or cold hard fear?
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Flares... Flares look pretty good on some people...
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And what about (Bwooooock!) SuperChicken?
It was great to hear my kids singing "Speed of lightning, roar of thunder! UnderDog! UnderDog!" Ahhh. Nostalgia.
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Perfectionism, or cold hard fear?
Fear of being rejected? Hmmm, well I guess there is always that. Its not that I haven't ever finished the story, but it just keeps going and getting changed as I decide I don't like something I already did 10 years ago.
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Oh I know Superchicken... and Superdave too...
Remember the George of the Jungle Cartoon?
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I only look good in flares.
My friend gave me a pair of boot cut jeans over Christmas, and I put them on and my roommate was like, nope. Not working for you.
She was right.
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flares make women look more curvy...
Not so good on guys.
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I really should go to bed. I'm going to be skivving off my 9am class tomorrow, but I still have to take the munchkins to school.
So, goodnight superfly groupies.
SuperDave! Now there's one I haven't heard in years!
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Fear of being rejected? Hmmm, well I guess there is always that. Its not that I haven't ever finished the story, but it just keeps going and getting changed as I decide I don't like something I already did 10 years ago.
I was reading an article today in Writers of the Future that said you should never rewrite unless an editor orders you to--you should just always move on to new things. I'm not sure I entirely agree, but I think there's some truth in it. There's such a thing as beating a story to death. Sometimes you just have to start clean.
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Night, Old One. See you tomorrow!
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Good night oldie but goody :)
Glad to have you around...
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Then I'd throw a copy of LotR in his face and say HA! You can't just throw together perfection.
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flares make women look more curvy...
Not so good on guys.
My roommate and I actually discussed that. We decided that flares balance out curves. If you're a curvy person, you look better in flares because it continues the curves rather than ending in a tapered point. If that makes any sense.
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Good luck with the sinuses.
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Thats kind of ridiculous.. of course you should rewrite...
You just need to be able to stop at some point...
Thats made easier by rereading what you've written.
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I actually never liked the George of the Jungle cartoons, but my Dad loved them and I think he's bought some of them on DVD. I always thought the laugh track was overdone, and the whole running into the tree thing was done to death.
Anyway. Goodnight.
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Then I'd throw a copy of LotR in his face and say HA! You can't just throw together perfection.
Ah, yes, but how many of us are Tolkein?
If you want to get published, and you're an average writer, you have to keep writing new things until you get good. That's my hope, anyway. Not that I'm getting any writing done right now. Why? Because I'm talking to you people instead. Not that I'm complaining.
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If you're a curvy person, you look better in flares because it continues the curves rather than ending in a tapered point. If that makes any sense.
I'll go a long with that...
Except it also makes non curvy women look curvy...
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I'm not rewriting the same story over and over... I have lots, some mostly done, others just outlined. But we were talking about worldbuilding, I just keep adding on and on.
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My roommate and I actually discussed that. We decided that flares balance out curves. If you're a curvy person, you look better in flares because it continues the curves rather than ending in a tapered point. If that makes any sense.
That's why I wear wide-legged pants. Flares, not so much for me, because it's a little too much on the trendy side. But tapered legs only emphasize the size of your hips and waistline.
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Okay, it's way past my bedtime. Surely if I just lie down, sleep will come along. If nothing else, I'll read for a while, try and make myself accomplish something rather than *gasp* wasting time.
Night.
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I've been wearing flares for eight years. I don't consider that trendy.
I see what you're saying, though.
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Ah, yes, but how many of us are Tolkein?
If you want to get published, and you're an average writer, you have to keep writing new things until you get good. That's my hope, anyway. Not that I'm getting any writing done right now. Why? Because I'm talking to you people instead. Not that I'm complaining.
I think you are going to nag me into sending a book in if you keep this up.
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good luck... and good night...
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I'm not rewriting the same story over and over... I have lots, some mostly done, others just outlined. But we were talking about worldbuilding, I just keep adding on and on.
Ah, that makes sense.
Is all your stuff set in the same world?
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Night stacer
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Too trendy for work purposes, I should have said.
I'm really going now.
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I think you are going to nag me into sending a book in if you keep this up.
Are you telling me that you've written books and you're sitting on them?
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Ah, that makes sense.
Is all your stuff set in the same world?
Yeah, its on earth. Both past and future.
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Too trendy for work purposes, I should have said.
I'm really going now.
Night Stacer! Thanks for joining us!
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Are you telling me that you've written books and you're sitting on them?
Yeah, basically. I don't want to send one in until I know I won't later change or add in something that would affect the story... um, something like that.
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Yes they are slowy becoming one of us, one of us...
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Yeah, basically. I don't want to send one in until I know I won't later change or add in something that would affect the story... um, something like that.
Are you out of your mind? You'll NEVER be sure of that!
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Yes they are slowy becoming one of us, one of us...
hee hee... slowly coverting the daywalkers to night owls.
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Besides that, when things get rejected, you can always do a rewrite while it's out and send a new version back out when it gets returned.
Have you read Scott Card's book about Writing Sci-fi and Fantasy?
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Are you out of your mind? You'll NEVER be sure of that!
Maybe, or maybe I'm and evil genius.
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Maybe, or maybe I'm and evil genius.
Yes, but if you keep that up you'll be an unpublished evil genius until the end of your days.
Why do you write if not to get read?
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no, your just out of your mind...
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Have you read Scott Card's book about Writing Sci-fi and Fantasy?
Nope
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no, your just out of your mind...
Or maybe my genius baffles you. :innocent smirk:
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Its actually good...
I should mention
I had one of my discussions in Scott Cards Kitchen
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no, your just out of your mind...
Or maybe my genius baffles you. :innocent smirk
See above...
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In the last chapter he has a whole section about getting last year's stories out of the house so they don't eat all the food in your fridge, or something like that. I have a copy of that section hanging on my wall. You need to read it.
For goodness sakes, if you've written books, send them away!
(I have no opinions at all on this subject, in case you couldn't tell.)
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Why do you write if not to get read?
Well I started writing for a lot different reason then to be read. But yeah, I want my stuff to get out there and get read.
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Might as well, especially if its written already.
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Or maybe my genius baffles you. :innocent smirk:
I know I, for one, am astounded and enamoured of your genius. :P
Now stop it!
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Its actually good...
I should mention
I had one of my discussions in Scott Cards Kitchen
Wow. That's cool.
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he was in my Ward... he's really a nice guy.
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All the women swooned at his son Jeff.
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*Fishy wakes up
Hey! Did you say you lived in Greensboro?
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Yes Greensboro North Carolina...
Thats where I went to college...
Why?
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You didn't know any Bridge's there, did you?
I have a friend there, Robert Bridge, but he'd be a couple years younger than you.
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The name doesnt sound familiar, sorry,.. I've been out of there since 98 when I joined the Military...
Most of the guys my age at the time in the Wards were on missions...
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So, Prince Charming, where are you going to send your books? ;) ;D
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The name doesnt sound familiar, sorry,.. I've been out of there since 98 when I joined the Military...
Most of the guys my age at the time in the Wards were on missions...
yeah, just wondering.
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Im sorry I feel like I've dissapointed you :'(
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Connection went dead..
I don't know where I'd send them in to. I've checked out the procedure with a few different places. Tor has published a lot of books I like, so had Del Rey. I also got at least one story so far in the same world that is Sci-fi instead of fantasy, so I'd probably want some place that does both.
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Im sorry I feel like I've dissapointed you :'(
Aww! Don't feel like that! I was just wondering. It was a long shot. I just figured there aren't that many members out there, and he has older brothers.
It's no big deal. I promise. ;D
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Connection went dead..
I don't know where I'd send them in to. I've checked out the procedure with a few different places. Tor has published a lot of books I like, so had Del Rey. I also got at least one story so far in the same world that is Sci-fi instead of fantasy, so I'd probably want some place that does both.
Well, if you have more than one book, get one book out to each publisher. That way you can cover more bases at once.
I'm trying to get a couple more books done this semester, so I can do that.
Do you have a writing group?
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Its bigger than you think... but small by Utah Standards...
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Yeah. I actually know several people in that area. One in Charlotte and one in Rock Hill.
Never been out there, though.
My sister is thinking about going to school there. There's two schools right near Greensboro that have musical theater programs.
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Which ones? Not Guilford College? UNCG has an amazing Opera Program..
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Which ones are there? I could pick the names out of a list...one was a private school, I remember that...
No, not that one. Something that started with an S, maybe. Or an N.
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Do you have a writing group?
No, but I've tried it out before and don't know if I really want one.
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Bad experience?
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North Carolina A&T?
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Not really a bad experience, I just didn't find it all that helpful.
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Yeah, I think that was one of them.
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UNCG has the better music program...
and she can apply to Mary Faust...
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Not really a bad experience, I just didn't find it all that helpful.
Depends on the group, I think. Or the writer.
Either way, get the stuff out, darn you. :P
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UNCG has the better music program...
and she can apply to Mary Faust...
She wants musical theater. Do they have a program for that?
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Now you're just needlessly taunting me, cause what I said.
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Yes, and the best theater in the region...
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Now you're just needlessly taunting me, cause what I said.
What? How was I taunting you? I wasn't trying to taunt you... :(
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Yes, and the best theater in the region...
Wow. I'll let her know. How's the tuition?
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Steep, but its a state school so...
And if she applies to RC she'll have the best college experience EVER!
Just ask Saint if you dont belive me...
http://www.uncg.edu/res/
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What? How was I taunting you? I wasn't trying to taunt you... :(
Nm then
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Wow. That sounds cool.
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So what kind of stuff do you like to write, Ms Fish?
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nm then
*Fish sniffles :'(
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I'm sure you already figured out pouting women always make me cave.
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Annual estimated total cost for most Out-of-State students living on campus
$19,504.00***
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two words Financial Assistance...
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So what kind of stuff do you like to write, Ms Fish?
I write YA. I used to do (attempt) high fantasy, but I found that I suck at worldbuilding. My specialty is character and dialogue. The novel I have finished is your basic fantasy world, medieval society and all that, and it's hanging out in some slush pile at Front Street Books right now. This semester I'm trying to finish a contemporary YA book, about a girl who's friend kills herself, etc. and a low fantasy book about a girl who hears the truth when people talk to her--the story is a fantasy/romance/murder mystery.
I don't think I'm good enough to go anywhere with it, but I want to so badly that I've decided I'm entitled to chase the dream, even if I don't have a snowball's chance in hell of accomplishing it. I mean, at least then I won't look back and say, what if?
Besides, everytime I stop writing I have a depressive episode. That ought to tell me something.
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I'm sure you already figured out pouting women always make me cave.
LOL. :-*
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two words Financial Assistance...
Yeah, I would guess so.
It's hard though, because we live in the Bay Area--so cost of living is ridiculous, and financial aid doesn't take that into account.
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you sound tailor made to write reviews then...
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Say what?
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Emancipation is a wonderful things... If she waits a year and has your dad drop her from his taxes and files her own claim she can get assistance for just about any school she qualifies for...
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Besides, everytime I stop writing I have a depressive episode. That ought to tell me something
You sound tailor made to write reviews...
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Emancipation is a wonderful things... If she waits a year and has your dad drop her from his taxes and files her own claim she can get assistance for just about any school she qualifies for...
Yeah, but why would he drop her from his taxes if he's still paying for her life? My sister has no income.
And I'm still not catching the review thing. I don't know anything about anything. How would I write a review?
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The story I'm working on atm is mostly a romance. Just the other day I finally got one of main ending scenes pegged down. So now I just got to get the romance part right and I should be able to fly through the rest.
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Nice. How many things have you finished?
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Hey! I've always wanted to be an acrobat!
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Yeah, but why would he drop her from his taxes if he's still paying for her life? My sister has no income.
Yeah I know and thats why she would qualify for beacoup financial aid, grants and $$. In essence he'd still be paying, but a lot less for college than he would if she went out of state while she was on his taxes...
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A host of poems and short stories, three books... one doesn't really work anymore, and almost had a fourth done, but I didn't like it and just cannibalized the ideas. Counting this one, I got four more I could finish pretty quick if I settled on some world history rather than constantly tweaking it. And I got a bunch of other stories outlined that I haven't really done much with yet, since I already have enough on my plate.
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Good point.
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As far as reviews go, you inexperience makes you well suited to reviewing them... you can focus on elements that a groganard(french slang for old campaigner) might gloss over or miss.
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A host of poems and short stories, three books... one doesn't really work anymore, and almost had a fourth done, but I didn't like it and just cannibalized the ideas. Counting this one, I got four more I could finish pretty quick if I settled on some world history rather than constantly tweaking it. And I got a bunch of other stories outlined that I haven't really done much with yet, since I already have enough on my plate.
And you're holding onto all of this stuff, why?
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As far as reviews go, you inexperience makes you well suited to reviewing them... you can focus on elements that a groganard(french slang for old campaigner) might gloss over or miss.
What would I review?
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Timewasting...
Things you can do to waste time..
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Cause I want to finish all my worldbuilding first. I got a huge period of time from 20,000bc until recorded history. Then recorded history and a bunch of white space that's supposed to go down exactly as it did in real life. Then I go out to about 20,000ad to when the story arc "ends"... that is a lot of stuff to put together.
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Seems obsessive Eagle...
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Hey, I posted at least one or two of my poems already. That was a big step for me. :P
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Seems obsessive Eagle...
Um, duh? I know what it is after this long. Its not like I write fast or anything either, I got quanity because I've been making it forever.
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Hey, I posted at least one or two of my poems already. That was a big step for me. :P
Time to take another few leaps then.
I'm going to keep tormenting you about this, you know.
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publish or perish guy...
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Timewasting...
Things you can do to waste time..
I don't think I have anything to say that people on this site would want to hear.
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But you see, I'm still getting 90% of what I want out of this even without publishing it. I'm not planning on making a living writing or anything.
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You're telling me you wouldn't want to see the stuff in print.
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I already said I did, but that's not all I care about. Its not even #1 on my list. You can also be obsessed with just getting published, too. Creative writing is labeled an art for a reason.
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I don't think I have anything to say that people on this site would want to hear.
Good then we can attract new readers...
You can help me come up with gaming chef articles...
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You make a mighty speech!
Eagle_Prince tries a rebuttle, but fails!
You win the matchpoint, and scream at your opponent: "I'm a Ninja! Why? Because any story can be improved by the addition of Ninjas!"
So there.
But seriously--I don't think you're in danger of becoming obsessed with getting published. Or losing creativity. But why write the stuff if you're not trying to get it read? Art is created for an audience.
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You could do an article on internet chatting, heh.
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Hey Im gonna take off and get a head start on traffic... I'll post a little more when I get home...
Sleep tight if I dont see you again tonight...
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Good then we can attract new readers...
You can help me come up with gaming chef articles...
Haha. Okay, deal.
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Well this story I'm working on is the one I want to start with, so at least let me finish it first.
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Yeah, I've got to get to bed.
Pleasure talking to you both, as always.
Sweet dreams, if you ever make it to sleep!
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Later Jeffe
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indeed..
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Well this story I'm working on is the one I want to start with, so at least let me finish it first.
Like I said, don't expect me to stop tormenting you about it. ;D :P ;D
But that's why you hang out with me, right?
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Night Fish
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Night.
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Like I said, don't expect me to stop tormenting you about it. ;D :P ;D
But that's why you hang out with me, right?
At least one of them, heh.
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Youz guys are killing me! Or is it the Outage? All those great conversations I miss! I find out that everyone of the Superfly night crew is part of the LDS thing (except for the non-believer which is me). I never saw that one, except for MsFish. It's not a bad thing, but just not what I was picturing onf Bones and Eagle. And then you guys go on about books. Eagle you need to print man. Just do it brother. You'll love yourself for it. Anyway, I just feel left out. :( Had to add my two cents for the thirty pages I missed. Later.
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Sorry Morgan! We do miss you! :'(
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Indeed.
Its a shame you cant join us more often...
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Speaking of, where are y'all? I might have to go to bed or something...
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I just bought a movie and a book
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whoa there that sounds almost boring
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I bought High Plains Drifter w/ Clint Eastwood and Complete Adventurer. Does that sound better? :P
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High plains drifter is pretty good.
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I don't think I've ever saw it, but I was looking through a lsit of Clint Eastwood movies to see what I should get next. It sounded good, so I looked for it a few places and couldn't find it, then just kinda lucked out and found it.
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Its kind of wierd...
but fun...
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MsFish Posted on: Jan 27th, 2005, 3:56pm
Sorry Morgan! We do miss you!
Ah shucks, I miss you guys too! :D
Bones said
Indeed.
Its a shame you cant join us more often...
Thanks Man, It is a bit of a shame, but this outage is going pretty good. Should be all done by the 20th of Feb. So that'll be good. You guys just nned to keep being superfly and I'll do my best to keep with it.
Cap'n
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Oh, so I go to bed and THEN y'all show up. Punks. :P ;D
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let that be a lesson...
never go to bed.
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ho hum 12:38 EST... where be ye?
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Be ye live or dead, I'll grind ye bones to make me bread.
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soooo
what kind of computer hardware are you using eagle?
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and I see that Old One is still up, are you feeling better tonight?
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Yes and no. But I'm alive. That's something, eh?
I notice that we're in the corner. Power to the night crew!
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In the corner?
Im not sure I understand... but it is after all late...
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Scroll down to the bottom of the thread. In the lower right-hand corner under the Next Topic thingie is the statement: Currently in the corner for being so superfly: the superfly night crew.
I know I'm sick, but I'm not hallucinating this.
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very cool I never noticed...
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That's probably because Kurtz was in the corner until a few days ago.
So how goes the nightly disaster central?
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soooo
what kind of computer hardware are you using eagle?
Huh??
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actually its my night off... I should be sleeping because I need to buy an iMic tomorrow to make my pro microphone hook up to my laptop...
but im not..
Eagle.
what computer are you using, and do you have an internal microphone...
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I have a custom built PC, or homemade whatever you want to call it. My monitor has a microphone in it.
And why should you be sleeping... don't you usually work this time? I mean if you are working nights, why wouldn't you be up at night even on a day off.
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Would an iMic go with a Mac?
I'm hoping to get a laptop in April and I'm debating between a PC and a Mac.
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Would an iMic go with a Mac?
I'm hoping to get a laptop in April and I'm debating between a PC and a Mac.
Well you could get one for a PC or Mac, I'm sure most would work with either.
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Uh EP,
Jeffe is the one getting the iMic. I'm just asking for opinions on Macs and PCs.
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Software wise you cant beat a mac for OS IMHO, Currently I have an iBook g4 Mac and I plan to get a Mac Mini to do my podcasting from...
But yeah I think an iMic will go with a PC.
Macs have always had a built in microphone, but I wanted a better quality one to do some recording...
I was asking because I might want someone to help out with a podcast from time to time, and I can do it with some software I just got, but it has to be through a program most people find odious... at least on the PC side...
I use iChat and my old account through Aol IM Express
But non iChat folks need to use IM to get audio and video with me (well eventually video) I cant stress how cool IM will be in a few months when Apple and Aol go to multiple audio and video feeds in the same chat (up to 4 video and 10 audio)
Old One I say get the mac, but wait untill they come out with their new build of OSX in a few months. Its called Tiger and its slick...
Id even say get the mac mini on the education discount and use all your old pc periphials (monitor, keyboard, mouse)
But thats me Im the rabid mac champion on the board...
still I likes a computer you can hold in you hand...
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If you are a gamer, then you want a PC, easy as that. If you're not into video games, then I'd just go with the cheapest, but keep in mind that PCs are more popular and so you are going to find more stuff for the PC than the Mac.
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I'm using my insomnia to my advantage and doing my taxes. I'm missing one form, but I figured I'd at least estimate it and do everything else, save it, and all I have to do when the form comes in is fix that one data figure, and send it on it.
Well, if I estimated correctly (I could be off by a few hundred dollars, but not a whole lot), I'm going to be getting a HUGE refund this year. Heaven bless whoever thought of the Lifetime Learning Credit. I've been worrying and worrying about how I'm going to live the last month of class, because my student loans didn't quite make it all that way. I've been looking for a part-time job, but nobody's even called me back for an interview, and I've been really trying to stretch things, but there's only so much it can stretch.
What a huge blessing. I can't tell you how relieved I am that I'll be able to eat in April and early May.
Now, to find a part-time job anyway, so I can also afford to move, if I end up doing that. And live a couple more months, if I end up having no income for a little while after graduation.
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Good for you, I wish I was doing my taxes right now
As for programs availible for mac and pc, in my experience its just been games. Im using Microsoft Office as my work suite right now for instance... beyond that almost any useful program is availible on mac, and since its a Unix based system you can run unix programs like a dream too.
And if your that worried about it microsoft makes a version of windows that you can run from osx.
I priced the Mac Mini for you at $736.00 with a BYU discount, and thats with a DVD burner... 80 gigs of Hard drive space and 512 mb of RAM
Unless you intend to do tons of video or audio editing 512 ram on a mac is great...
80 gig hd could be a little small, but they make good external HD's now...
I love my Mac, my whole attitude toward computing changed the minute I 86ed my old laptop and bought my new one...
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Computers are getting cheap nowdays... its amasing.
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What a huge blessing. I can't tell you how relieved I am that I'll be able to eat in April and early May.
I think everyone is relieved to hear you will be eating for a two-month peroid. That would be quite the fast. ;D
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You could always start a blog and have a paypal donation page...
and then not declare it ;)
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Or get some pet monkeys and train them to steal food. Or if you're not into the whole stealing thing, start hawking as a hobby and they can bring you back rabbits and stuff.
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or have the monkeys take up hawking and then sell tickets...
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Ninja monkey scaplers?
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I'm thinking the ninja monkeys would object to such use of their kin.
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And I meant sell tickets observe the monkeys while they hawk.
Stacer-no, thats just the kind of thing they like to do after wallowing in hot butter
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Sweet buttered monkeys!
I'm off to bed, though. I can at least stop worrying about one thing, so perhaps I'll be able to relax a little better. :)
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Yep Im off to bed too....
Gotta get up before 10...
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night then. :waves:
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I'm leaning toward a Mac right now anyway. It'll mostly be for internet access and wordprocessing.
Anyway, I've got to get to bed too. TLE tomorrow morning and I'm leading an editing group. Yee-haw.
G'night.
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Man, I missed you guys again. Anyone going to be around tonight?
YAY! We're in the corner! Secretly, I've always wanted to be in the corner...
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Hey Prince Charming--How's it going?
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Just got back from playing DnD
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Hola, cant stay too long, but thought I'd drop in.
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How was D&D?
Yay! People are here! I was convinced I'd be left to my writing alone.
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Nah, fish are never alone...
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Some demon tried to recruit us into his army, but 42's character started babbling and so the guy just walked away all confused. Then we hired out another demon for a travelling guide and got into a brawl with some devils, then claimed a bounty on their heads and got another demon guide to help us track down a dragon. Yeah, that's about it. ;D
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My wife and I were watching some Degrassi Jr High episodes, and then we watched the Shawshank Redemption...
I love that movie...
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Yeah, that's a good movie.
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A demon guide, huh? D&D sounds odd.
But then, last night my character dressed up in a mumu and glasses and went to church and sat there yelling, "I have cataracts," so I'm one to talk.
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I've never seen the Shawshank Redemption. I need to catch it on TV one of these days.
Nah, fish are never alone...
Yeah, there's all those people walking by and tapping on the glass--so obnoxious.
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Well I should mention that our group had just traveled to the Abyss (home of the demons) and city we ended up at was near an impressive battle against an army of devils (in DnD, demons and devils hate each other nearly as much as they hate celestials/angels).
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Interesting. So are the demons evil? Or the devils? Or both?
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Both are evil. There is the Lower Planes where all the supernatural bad guys live, ie fiends; and the Upper Planes where all the good guys live, ie angels (although there's lots of different groups of them with different names).
So the Lower Planes are split into several different places, inlcuding the Abyss, Hades, and Hell. Demons live in the Abyss, and devils in Hell. Demons follow the chaotic forces of the universe, and would generally rip out your throat. Devils follow the lawful forces of the universe and are the sort who would make bargins with you, ie sell your soul or something like that.
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So, is there one world that all D&D games are set in, with standard rules and all that, or are there different ones like there are in the World of Darkness?
Oh, and Jeffe...lets say I had more boat questions...would you be totally opposed to answering some more for me...? ;D
I really need to stop writing about boats, since I know nothing.
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This is the standard dnd world, although there is an infinate number of planets, and alternate realities like the TV show Sliders... so you might not always be on the same planet or even reality each time you play.
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Each campaign, or each session?
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Each campaign will probably be on a different world, although there are a few prefabricated worlds... Toril, which is where all the Forgotten Realms novels are based, the world that the Dragonlance books are from (forget the name, its like Kern or something), and Oerth which is where the Greyhawk books take place (and was the original DnD world). Then there is also Ebberon, but its quite a bit different, same monsters and stuff but different setup for how all the planes of existance work.
Although you can go about anywhere in any game with spells... in this game, we were on these islands ruled by Titans, but my cleric used a spell to take us to the Abyss.
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I'm getting kicked out of the lab. Be back.
:-/
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Hmmm...Jeffe didn't answer my question.
AIDA is wonderful, can I tell you.
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What is aida, a band?
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No, a musical. Set in ancient Egypt.
http://disney.go.com/disneytheatrical/aida/
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I'll answer boat questions if I can... I love boat questions
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Strange, I don't think I've heard of it. How long has it been out?
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Aida is a pretty famous Opera set in ancient Egypt, I think the opening show in the Cairo Opera House used live elephants....
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Really strange, but the opera thing explains why I never heard of it.
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Thing is its probably Verdi's best work, and it ends on such a tragic note...
Since the Heroine is entombed with the dead pharoh.
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I think the Elton John/Rice version came out on broadway when I was in high school--six or seven years, probably.
The music is so cool.
Thanks Jeffe! I will probably be resurrecting the boat question soon then. This one's a contemporary novel, so I need diagrams of boats that someone would have in a small buisness-type setting, just to take some tourists out in the bay area or whatever. I need a catamaran, and a sailboat, and some kind of a boat that people would fish off of.
And then I'm going to name them after transformers.
Okay, so it's official. Never in my life will I be published.
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Really strange, but the opera thing explains why I never heard of it.
No no no, it's probably based on an opera, but this is a broadway musical. Very contemporary.
I have a thing for musicals, in case you haven't noticed.
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how big are we talking, cats and sail boats can get pretty big...
I guess the best way for you to describe it is in # of passengers...
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yeah... musicals, opera, etc... not usually what I find entertaining.
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Charming--have you seen/heard recent ones? We're not talking about the Sound of Music here. Some of the new musicals are extremely cool.
Jeffe:
Cat-probably like five or six people. Maybe seven or eight including crew people.
Sailboat-Maybe like 12 or 14...would this be practical for a local harbor in Santa Cruz?
(Hey, at least I know the area I'm writing about.)
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Aida is based on an opera first performed in 1871 in Cairo for the Khedive of Egypt Ismail Pasha. It was planned to commemorate the opening of the Suez Canal, but it wasnt finished in time.
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oh yeah, Santa Cruz has a deep harbor and some Yacht clubs so no problem.. those boats are also gonna be small to medium.
I'll see what I can scrounge up as far as plans.
Oddly many larger sailboats are cats because they offer better stability....
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No I don't think I have saw any recent musicals, cause well... they are okay sometimes, but I don't go looking to watch them. If one stumbed by my tv, then I might check it out.
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Okay, this isn't as recent, but how about Little Shop of Horrors? Seen that one?
In my opinion hearing musicals is almost as good as seeing them, too. Several of my favorites I've never seen. Wicked for example.
Soo, would they probably have a catamarran? I'm really shooting in the dark, here.
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Well heres a great sailboat
http://www.catalinayachts.com/yachts.cfm?act=model&id=32&link=spec
Sleeps 12 and its a Catalina, about a 50 footer,... plans should be on there after the jump
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That's *perfect*. Exactly what I needed. Thanks!
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I got the 1960 Little Shop Of Horrors, don't remember it being a musical though.
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My ex-boyfriend's uncle owns Santa Cruz Yachts, and I went sailing with them once. That was a *nice* boat.
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Of course if you feel like you need to splurge this 108 foot beauty from new zealand will make you cry..
http://www.nautica.it/superyacht/509/alloy/tiaraeng.htm
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I got the 1960 Little Shop Of Horrors, don't remember it being a musical though.
Yeah, the movie version of the musical came out in 1986. It's a great show...the musical is better than the movie adaptation...but even so, Rick Moranis sings. It's pretty funny.
*MsFish breaks into song
Feed me Symore (can't spell that)
Feed me all night long...
You've got no alternative Seymour old boy, though it means you'll be broke again and unemployed, it's the only solution it can't be avoided the vegetable must be destroyed...
But then, there's Audrey...lovely Audrey...
*Fishy takes a breath
Alas, Seymour was done in by his love for a girl who got eaten by his alien-from-outer-space plant.
I mean, come on! It's sci-fi and everything! ;D
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As for Cats
http://www.boat-charters.tv/yachts/virgin-island-catamarans/Wanderlust/index.htm
http://www.boat-charters.tv/yachts/virgin-island-catamarans/Duduza/index.htm
http://www.boat-charters.tv/yachts/virgin-island-catamarans/Promenade/index.htm
http://www.boat-charters.tv/yachts/virgin-island-catamarans/Lonestar/index.htm
As you can see cats have Way more space, (twin hulls dontcha know and lots of upper deck space too...)
So they can handle more folks...
Those were the more interesting ones I saw.
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Wow, I don't think these people have that kind of money. What does something like that run?
Umm...so...
*Fish puts on her very best "you-know-you-love-me face
When I finish this book...you wouldn't want to...you know...like...read it for me and make sure I get things right...I mean maybe...would you...?
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I really like the wanderlust....
Really!!!!
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So, how many people does it take to run one of these things? I don't want to have to have characters coming out of my ears...
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Fish you dont even want to know how much even the 50 footers run...
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I really like the wanderlust....
Really!!!!
Huh? Wanderlust? Is that a yes?
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not many, today anyways...
Biggest crew maybe 4 people.
The cats have larger crews because they have more people to cater to, so they have cooks, entertainment staff and so on..
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The wanderlust was the first Cat listed...
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Fish you dont even want to know how much even the 50 footers run...
Yeah, well, the fact that they're expensive is part of my plot, anyhow.
Okay, another random question. If you were going to run some criminal activity out of a boat, what would work best? Drug trafficking? Gambling?
I'm writing a YA fantasy romance murder mystery, by the way.
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The wanderlust was the first Cat listed...
Oh, gotcha. Did you miss the question? ;D ;D (Feel free to say no, of course, but I have to ask.)
I opened a couple of the pages, but I'm going to save really looking at most of them until I'm not on dialup. That 108 whatever it was took forever and a day to load. Pictures will do that.
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Can I run one of these on a day trip with two people?
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Drug trafficking is possible, but unlikely, thats usually done by 45-60 ft speedboats sporting more Marlin Marine engines than humanly possible.
Gambling is good, gem smuggling, and people smuggling (terrorists etc..) are probably what a yacht like that would be doing.
Of course I'll read it.
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You're awesome, you know that, right?
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In calm seas, yeah, it might be a bit of a strain, but say one or two of the passengers know how to sail and can help out. But a couple of people could handle it pretty easy I think.
Plus I think both have diesel engines...
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/me blushes
But I have to go to bed now... gotta be fresh for tomorrow night...
luv y'all
oh and a 50 ft sailboat, probably wont sell for less than a half a million.
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night Jeffe
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Okay. Maybe I'll throw in a third person. I just don't want to end up with more characters than I can give strong characterization to. Time to break out Dickens. (Just kidding.)
So, would you fish off one of these? Cause if so then maybe I'll stick with two boats. Might be easier that way...fewer people involved....
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Alas, questions will have to wait.
Have a wonderful night, Jeffe! Sleep well!
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Prince Charming, that avatar is even more creepy than the last one.
Do you know what time we're supposed to start tomorrow? Because last time I think everyone ended up waiting for me.
Hey, look! I'm the Main Attraction! (My title, that is.) Whatever that means...
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me takes one last opportunity to offer a wolf whistle at the main attraction!;)
night everybody
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Creepy is good imo...
Not sure when we start, just when people show up I guess. Probably something like 10 or 11pm.
Okay, there is good creepy and bad creepy... but he is good creepy. ;D
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*Fish blushes
Umm...so yeah... :P ;D
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Creepy is good imo...
Not sure when we start, just when people show up I guess. Probably something like 10 or 11pm.
I wasn't saying creepy was bad...it's just...creepy.
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Yeah, I figured you did. Sort of like the dnd game I was mentioning, my cleric's mount is a black half-demon unicorn sorcerer. That's creepy too, heh. I'm trying to get him shapeshifting powers so he can assume human form.
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What does a half demon unicorn sorcerer look like?
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Good question... like a unicorn, but black instead of white, more muscle, flaming hooves, and an evil glint in his eyes. And plants probably start to wilt around him.
Oh yeah, I based him off a demon from real-world myth. Here's a link that sort of explains what the demon I based him off is like.
http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/mythology/amdusias.asp
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Hmm, so much for unicorns being symbols of purity. ;D
Isn't it difficult to do things if you don't have any hands?
So, is there some kind of goal you're trying to accomplish in your campaign? Like, is there a plot?
(That may be an impertinent question, but remember that I've never played, so I don't know how it works.)
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It is hard to do stuff without hands, that's why he mostly just casts spells and packs me around.
He used to be a good unicorn, but he met this evil paladin who started turning him away from goodness. Our group ended up in a fight with the paladin and killed both of them. My cleric raised the unicorn from the dead, and he told me his story and how he wanted to become part demon. He said he would serve me if I helped him do it, so I did and that's why he's my buddy now.
There is a goal. The idea of the game was everyone wanted to try out playing an evil character. The first thing we did was team up and kill everyone in this dwarven temple, then turned it into a temple for my god. Everyone kind of has their own goals, but my character's is to defeat the titans who rule these islands... the titans helped the other gods defeat my god in a battle thousands of years ago, so I'm trying to help my god get revenge on them.
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Hmm, playing evil could be lots of fun. Sounds pretty dark though. And creepy. ;D
I'm going to go to bed. Got church at nine, and it would be very good if I were awake for that.
Have a great night!
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Nighty-night.
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I didn't read it all, so I'm not sure if you decided to name your boat the Wanderlust or not, Fish, but just so you're aware, there's already a YA book out there by Sharon Creech called The Wanderer about a fishing expedition. So, just so you have that in mind.
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she's naming them after transformers.... i was just saying I liked the boat
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Gotcha.
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Well Im here.... where are you.
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Here and there.
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but not everywhere.
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Sorry, omnipresence isn't listed among my Descriptors.
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ahh...
I also broke out my old copy of Wraith (a first printing 1994)
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But can not here also be considered there, no matter where you are? You look around and over there, someone else considers here. A difference of T's can make all the difference, but still, just take the time.
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Hmmm, let me check when mine was made...
mine is 2nd edition, 1998
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Yeah I dont think yours has glow in the dark ink on the cover like mine...
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actually I wish I had 2 e...
they fixed some rules problems...
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Such destinctions of here and there are only relevent to those with the Time Traveler prime affinity.
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I'm here too! Yay! A night off!!!! ;D
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excellent... now we just need a fish.
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I started a new thread so she would have an easier time loading. So this one should be locked.
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And some chips? Heh.