Timewaster's Guide Archive
General => Rants and Stuff => Topic started by: JenaRey on March 31, 2006, 04:05:13 PM
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Currently there are some personal differences that are affecting the forum and the TWG site. I am not going to comment on those, but feel strongly about speaking up for the site.
The lead in for the new article on the TWG page is inappropriate and embarassing. I just got a call from a friend that I had sent to the site - I link here from my blog as do others - today wanting to know if I was pulling their leg about this being a serious and professional site. The article itself is fine, thematically, but very difficult to read because of errors and formatting. I know Spriggan doesn't proof, but someone needs to. The errors are bad enough that I stopped reading at about the half way point. The link to the forum that should be at the bottom is also missing.
I'm going to beg, for the sake of the site, that nothing be put up until these differences have a chance to be dealt with in private. TWG is a professional site and I, for one, really don't want to see it fall apart. Many of us have come to love it here and to appreciate the people we interact with, and I'd hate to lose that.
~J
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Personally, I think the blurb is hilarious. Maybe I'll link it to the right place. Anyone who hasn't, should probably read the last few posts in the "Anti-Religious Memes" thread.
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I agree. The blurb is totally out of place, the article needs cleaning up. I've read jeffes stuff before and his usually does. I'm not saying he writes bad articles, just that he isn't that great at making them clear to read (which is why god invented authors and then invented editors, I guess). The blurb needs to be made appropriate and not look like a high-school feud. The article needs a standard editor sweep. Clear up the double L's, remove the redundant 'well's' and such.
I'm not interested in getting involved in the dispute, but I think that admins disagreeing on articles is no excuse for letting standard site practice slip.
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Yeah, I wrote that and submitted it to E for editing
but it never got edited. A lot of my stuff is written in a hurry at work.
I wish you'd been able to read it. It saddens me that you cant.
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E wasn't planning on running it today. I was going to do alternate Tuesdays with this column, which is when you'll probably be seeing it in the future.
and Ent, really, read the dang thread. just the last few posts, at leasts. You're giving me fits.
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its proofed now.
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May I also just add that the non-"in crowd" handled this with awesome grace. Nobody got violent or said inappropriate things till they had figured it out and had their suspicions confirmed.
I didn't think anyone would believe it. I thought for certain I was way over the top. I mean... Kobold Nazis?
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it is Wizards of the Coast.
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I, too, was disappointed by the blurb for Jeffe's article right on the front page of TWG--and then even more dismayed to open the link and see so many grammatical problems. In fact, I stopped reading it (though it looks like Jeffe's just done some work to it). Anyhow, like Jena and Entropy, I only speak up because I love TWG. It's such a great forum in many, many ways.
So I'd be remiss if I didn't voice my concerns over the professionalism and hope that, until these personal differences are sorted out, reviews and the like will be put on hold until they can get the proper attention. I would also hope that the blurb, at least, be changed to reflect the article instead of the current personal disagreements.
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No one noticed that I never lost admin access?
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they mucked it up Shrain.
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No one noticed that I never lost admin access?
I noticed, but was wayyyyyy confused.
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they mucked it up Shrain.
Serves them right, the dorks--and I mean that in the original sense of the word. (I didn't notice because I came in on the tail end of this). Sorry, but this ticks me off. I got bad news today that really messed me up and then I get all upset and worried that TWG is emploding and everyone's acting like little boys fighting in a sand box. >:( I've had enough drama.
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Color me unimpressed, guys. I am glad that your humor comes at the cost of other people.
Regardless of your 'joke' - used in the loosest of possible terms - the article is still in serious need of editing.
~J
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ouch. And I wasnt even in on it.
It is frustrating that everyone hates my article cause you guys were screwing with it.
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Unless sprig did it without telling us, there were no changes until I did a proof read.
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/Me seriously thinks about giving up writing forever then.
Unless its the "Compleat" part thats throwing people... thats how its spelled.
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it may be. Stupid misspelled brand name.
anyway, don't give up. I mean, we just need to proof read first.
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well, now Im depressed.
Great.
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Don't worry about it--cleaning up copy is our job. You're a better writer than almost everybody I edit for at my real job.
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but you work at a pig farm. :'(
was that pathetic enough?
Man I just thought I did a better job than that.
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Like I said to you on IM, I liked the article it just needed the standard clean up.
Don't leave... the drones need you. They look up to you.
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heh
fun game ent, fun game.
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Unless sprig did it without telling us, there were no changes until I did a proof read.
Nope no changes besides adding HTML.
And honestly people, all you complaining need to get scenes of humor.
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I think you mean "senses," Sprig. But yeah, I agree. Even if you don't think it was funny, you have to recognize that it was a joke, and that other people did find it funny. And seriously, beside that, if you are sensitive enough that an argument between admins will really upset you, then I think you are addressing the wrong problem.
Jena, you need to relax. This was, speaking of April Fool's jokes, relatively harmless. You are getting tunnel vision as to the purpose of the site. Yes, it is a review site. Yes, it tries to be professional about that. But that isn't to say that this site isn't for fun as well. As a matter of fact, I should say that this site is primarily for enjoyment, considering nobody is making a living off of it. The people who are actually involved in the publishing process do so because they chose to, not because they have to. And many people in the forums aren't even involved with the publishing process of this site. They are just here because they enjoy the site. So, to get upset about the regulars of the site having fun, pulling a joke, is denying what this site is about.
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all you complaining need to get scenes of humor.
Whew, thank goodness Sprigg won't be the one editing reviews after all. ;) lol.
Oh, and Archon, I'm all for TWG being fun, believe me. Then again, I'm all for keeping TWG around, period. So I think what irked Jena the most was not the fact that the guys were having some (retarded) fun but the fact that other websites have imploded after similar personal skirmishes. Put another way, it wasn't so much about the sqabbling having threatened professionalism, per se. Instead, it was more feeling as if the prank was a cheap shot--for the admins to have caused concerns that the "fight" might just spell the beginning of the end for our beloved little forum, that's all.
Anyhow, the whole thing, I admit, makes me chuckle now. After all, what could possibly threaten the mighty TWG? Also, my Friday was already sucky, so I wasn't in a particularly teasable mood that day, if ya know what I mean. But you can bet I'll be ready for your tricks next time 'round. ;)
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I bet five nickels and a scrap of paper that you wont be ready next year.
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And I bet an empty drinks can and a rusty nail.
Good joke. But then, I didn't read it til I knew it was a practical joke. Not that it would have scared me. The worst thing fo me would be Spriggan's proof-reading.
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I knew people wouldn't believe me as a proof-reader that's what I explicitly stated in the "staff changes" thread that I wouldn't be doing so, which was made funnier by the fact I didn't when I posted Jeffe's article.