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Title: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 03, 2005, 10:55:10 PM
Sprig... I have a podcast mp3 for us
however no place to host as E and I are serverless. Any ideas?
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Spriggan on August 03, 2005, 11:08:55 PM
Why dosen't his sever work?  I'm just wondering since we host at the same place and if it's a technical thing then it may not work from me.

I can host MP3s, at least I think I can, and if not maybe we can get Tage to host it.  You can e-mail it to me at my TWG address (in my profile) and I'll get it taken care of in the next few days (if I can't host it on my server).
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 03, 2005, 11:24:46 PM
I'm in between servers
Godaddy had too many things i couldn't work with.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 03, 2005, 11:26:32 PM
his server was sent to israel.


but I'll send it...
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Spriggan on August 04, 2005, 01:49:39 AM
ugg. 10 megs.  Well this is going to take a bit to upload, I'll let you know when it's done.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Spriggan on August 04, 2005, 03:11:26 AM
ok it's up.  Umm I guess I have to upload a XML sheet for the podcasts to work or is that going to be handeled somewhere else?

Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Spriggan on August 04, 2005, 03:49:29 AM
ok try this for now.  I can make something that lets you manage the podcasts yourself if you want, this one I just took a template and filled it in myself and so I just made up things I didn't know like iTunes catagory.

http://www.legacieslost.com/podcasts/test.xml

This was a quick image I made too
(http://www.legacieslost.com\podcasts\podwasterguide.gif)
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 04, 2005, 10:52:01 AM
I like yours....
its easy...
However episode I isnt downloading, Im not sure why...
Nice graphic btw...
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Spriggan on August 04, 2005, 11:00:45 AM
I can't really say myself I don't have an iPod to test this one.  I guess I should get iTunes so I can test it.

But before I do that is there anything odd besides it not downloading?  Do you not get all the normal info or anything like that?  It would help me debug.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 04, 2005, 11:06:00 AM
I think some link stuff was left out though...
like the link to the cast itself


the way I've seen it the cast file is linked to the title of the individual podcast.


Like on here
feed://www.bluegrasspreservation.org/index.xml

Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 04, 2005, 11:07:59 AM
and I think something like this is missing

  <a class="articlelink" href="http://www.Timewastersguide.com/radio/podcast/Podwastersguideepisode1.mp3" target="_self">Read more&hellip;</a>
       
Genre tags are like this

Genre: Podcast
Category: Arts and Entertainment
Sub Category: Games
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 04, 2005, 11:21:21 AM
It looks good...
the xml page looks clean... but like I said there is no link to the actual mp3 in the tags...
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 04, 2005, 12:09:01 PM
and if you can download an aggregator you dont need an ipod you know... just an mp3 player...
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: JP Dogberry on August 05, 2005, 02:30:38 AM
And Winamp and WMP both work fine too. It doesn't NEED to be portable.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Spriggan on August 05, 2005, 03:20:15 AM
I know how to download them, I was just suggesting getting iTunes so I could format it to look right on with that.  I've got my own RSS aggregator.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 05, 2005, 07:35:14 AM
it looks right, the was itunes works with podcasts is that you submit the URL of the feed and it "reads" the articles, pulls up all the podcasts within a certain amt of time. Unless they are archived.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 06, 2005, 12:39:07 PM
hey spriggan were you going to update the page.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Spriggan on August 06, 2005, 12:45:20 PM
Just a note that fixing this is on my "to do list for this weekend" I've got one other, all be it big, thing in front of it.

A few thoughts after listening to it:

1) You change how you pronounce your call name Jeffe, you introduce yourself with the Spanish pronunciation then latter on you use an American accent (ie Jeff-e).

2) I don't know if this is against the "rules" of podcasting but there were a lot of white space and stumbling (which is understandable since this is basically one person trying to talk for 10+ minutes), couldn't we edit these things to make them a little more smother and professional?    There really shouldn't be a reason to have Jeffe pausing and then saying "I forgot the name of the book" and stuff like that in the final version.

3) Windows tells me the mp3 is about 11:43 second long yet it's actually about a minute less then that, anyone else getting this problem?

Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 06, 2005, 02:39:35 PM
1. I think I've always pronounced it that way...

Dead air and corrections are actually pretty acceptable Im not CBS news or Clear channel and right now I am not only talking but my only tech.... still
Other ones will be better trust me this is already miles better than the test one I did and I think I figured out a whole lot... the whole point is to get started.

Also Jam, and I have a plan to use skype to make a real conversational Podcast..
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Spriggan on August 06, 2005, 02:46:30 PM
1) No Jeffe what I mean is you pronounce 'Jeffe' different ways in the podcast, that's confusing to people unfamiliar with TWG.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 06, 2005, 02:47:13 PM
do I

Hmm I never noticed...
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 06, 2005, 02:47:34 PM
well I'll look into it at home
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Entsuropi on August 06, 2005, 03:02:03 PM
Heh. Conversational podcasts could be slightly confusing - I don't know about Skype but Teamspeak has lag, so that often you think the other person has stopped speaking but is actually isn't. Only way around it is to simply wait longer for people to stop speaking.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 06, 2005, 03:17:55 PM
skype had no lag or didnt when we tried it
3 person conference between Pleasington, Jam and I

We had minor probs, but nothing I couldnt edit.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Spriggan on August 06, 2005, 03:18:52 PM
it's not like you can't take out the lag latter on if there is any.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Entsuropi on August 06, 2005, 05:36:50 PM
The problem, spriggan, is that the lag makes people cut over each other by accident a lot. Which is harder to edit.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 06, 2005, 06:13:41 PM
however that happened rarely...

Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: JP Dogberry on August 07, 2005, 03:30:35 AM
Yeah, that sounds awesome. Skype is excellent for it. The Lag can be edited, and if it cuts over itself, it just makes us sound less professional and thus earns us indie points. And nerds love indie.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Spriggan on August 07, 2005, 03:04:55 PM
Ok everything should work now, had to find myself some documentation on apple's RSS extensions before I updated it.

feed://www.legacieslost.com/podcasts/test.xml
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Entsuropi on August 07, 2005, 05:36:30 PM
Indie being another word for crap? :P
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: JP Dogberry on August 07, 2005, 06:11:05 PM
No, indie being Independant, as in against the system, as in sticking it to the man.

That's what Rock music is all about: Sticking it to the Man, but then MTV came along, and now the only way to Stick it to the Man is through jazz. But I digress.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 07, 2005, 06:36:46 PM
Rock was dead long before MTV... ever hear of the BeeGees.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: JP Dogberry on August 07, 2005, 08:35:17 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 07, 2005, 09:23:19 PM
Im sorry.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 08, 2005, 09:13:30 AM
The whole concept of Indie is ridiculous. I like hearing stuff that's new and different. I like to hear original stuff.

Provided it's GOOD. And frankly, most of it ISN'T.

Joe Satriani: not on the radio, but not Indie.
Steve Vai: not often on the radio, but not Indie.
Big Head Todd and the Monsters, Eels, Dandy Warhols: rarely on the radio, but not Indie.

The point of Indie is NOT "sticking it to the man" whatever they say it is. Actually indie, as a whole, is pretty much summed up by Indie Rock Pete: anything anyone likes is no good. That's NOT sticking it to the man. That's letting your tastes be dictated by the man.

Let me also comment about the "point" of rock. There *is* no point to rock, insofar as any social theory is concerned. The idea of rock was loving the music, having fun. Elvis.  3 Dog Night. Chuck Berry. The Beach Boys. These guys were NOT about sticking it to the man. Neither were the Beatles at first. If you think rock was about sticking it to the man until MTV, I'm going to point you at the Rolling Stones. Now THEY thought/think rock was purely about teen rebellion. Yet, when MTV came along, they were in their 40s. Still singing about being teen rebels. And they embraced MTV wholeheartedly. So much for sticking to their ideals. THAT'S the reality of rock.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: MsFish on August 09, 2005, 12:19:28 AM
And I thought I was a cynic.  

;)
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: JP Dogberry on August 09, 2005, 12:26:12 AM
Don't listen to e. He's a tool of the man.

/me plays rock and sticks it to the Man.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: MsFish on August 09, 2005, 12:29:52 AM
Does it strike anyone else as strange that "the man" in "stick it to the man" is the enemy, but if I were to reply with

SE IS The Man

that would be a good thing?

The things I will ponder when I'm avoiding writing...
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Spriggan on August 10, 2005, 09:11:34 AM
anyway back on topic, dose it work correctly with iTunes/iPods now?  I can download the MP3 via my aggregator but they use slightly different code so I need to know.
Title: Re: podwasters guide
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 10, 2005, 10:54:43 AM
I doesnt work in itunes, but I can download it..

also now that I listen to it again there are some odd music issues that I never heard before when I was mixing and testing it...
So... Im going to go back to the drawing board.