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Re: Chasing archetypes
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2005, 09:11:58 PM »
The Pretender
Starman (the TV show)

All those kinds of shows. Because the show would have to end if they got caught.

I can't really think of a previous version for the archetype, though. But I'm not thinking too hard today. (Got an extension on Tuesday's paper, which is good, because I haven't started it yet. Did do the presentation today, but it was so bad. All I care about this week is that I've actually done it. So if I turn in 8 pages of unconnected paragraphs at 9am tomorrow right before I head to work, I really don't care. It's done, and that's all I care about. At least I won't flunk. Just graduate and be done. Or, I don't know, finish the semester and come back for more in the fall. Still haven't heard on the MFA, so still not sure if I'm staying.)
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Re: Chasing archetypes
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2005, 09:34:54 PM »
Pretender is another excellent example and I love that show.  DVD is coming out soon!
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Re: Chasing archetypes
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2005, 11:43:49 PM »
What about mystery novels? Some mystery series have a consistent enemy that the hero is constantly hunting. Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty?  Also, it's an idea that Steven Brust deals with in "Gypsy" (trippy book, don't know if I'd recommend it).  The gypsy is a character who seems to come out of folklore.  He is always chasing the fairy queen in order to cast her out of this world and (once that's done) to destroy her in her own realm. As for other myths, that's kind of the idea behind the constellations of Orion and Scorpius. Since the scorpion killed Orion, his constellation goes down when the other comes up. It's also in "Millenium Actress" (great anime) where the girl is forever hunting for this guy, but the pursuit is what is important.
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Re: Chasing archetypes
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2005, 11:52:00 AM »
Lupin III/Inspector Zenigata
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Re: Chasing archetypes
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2005, 03:31:59 PM »
It wasnt introduced by TV, how about Beowulf and Grendal?
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Re: Chasing archetypes
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2005, 03:33:27 PM »
Beowulf/Grendel is only partially a chase, and it's hardly eternal.
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Re: Chasing archetypes
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2005, 03:35:08 PM »
I missed the eternal part,... but how about Sysiphus?

Not you traditional chase but you know...
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Re: Chasing archetypes
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2005, 03:41:40 PM »
Now I think you're on to something. Many of the famous punishments in the underworld are applicable, I think
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Re: Chasing archetypes
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2005, 03:45:32 PM »
Which leads me to say, .... so modern cartoons are a punishment akin to that in Tartarus?

hehehehe.
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Re: Chasing archetypes
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2005, 03:46:39 PM »
hrm.... let's see what the censorship board has to say about it
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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2005, 04:16:51 PM »
and the punishments all based on the hubris of the punishee's...
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Re: Chasing archetypes
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2005, 07:36:06 AM »
What about the myth that the sun was being pushed by a god that was chasing the moon?

Might be egyptian, and Tolkien lifted it for LoTR.
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Re: Chasing archetypes
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2005, 04:29:43 PM »
and lets not forget Moby Dick,... I mean if there ever was a definitive chase story thats it... and inside it are a whole slew of allusions to other chase stories...

And it is eternal, because Ahab ends his days stapled to the whale, eternally damned to chase him.
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