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General => Everything Else => Topic started by: Nessa on March 13, 2006, 01:08:15 PM
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Jeromy, it's good to see you! It's been a long time. I have wondered about you, and like you haven't kept in contact with old TLEers, to my regret. There aren't many on this board from when I was there, other than Brandon (EUOL) and Peter (Ookla--who is married to Karen). I saw Carl Earnstrom recently (well, a year ago) and talked to him. He just finished his master's at the U and was moving to Logan or Ogden, I think, for a job there. But that's all I know.
Vanessa
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Actually Carl Ernstrom, if it's the same one from my TLE days...can't imagine there are that many Carl Ernstrom's in the universe... he lives in North Orem, one cul-de-sac away from me and I teach his children piano lessons. ;)
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Oooh, I must have heard the city wrong (wouldn't be a first). I knew it was Utah somewhere. That's good to know.
And if you were there the same time as him, then you were there the same time as me and how come I don't remember you? :(
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Ummm...maybe I'm unrememberable? I was there at the tail end of Carl's time and in the days of the Grovers. Early nineties. I was the executive secretary and chief organizer of more back issues than I ever want to count and organize again.
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I was Associate Editor when Shannon Grover was Managing Editor.
Email me a picture and maybe I'll remember (I'm much better with faces than names). My email is on my profile.
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Oh man, too many names all at once. I remember the Grovers, I think. Maybe I don't. Didn't they write stories together? I remember the guy telling us that you had to write one a week. They were there when I first started in 95, and left after about a year.
I remember you, Vanessa, unless I'm totally crazy. But I can't remember how much we overlapped. And I remember Carl Ernstrom. We had some great conversations around the big table in the HumPub when we were supposed to be reading. :) Peter I definitely remember--how could you forget anyone who rode a unicycle? And Karen and Doug and Loralee. Good times. Now I'm remembering the copy machine in that little kitchen, and shaking the toner cartridge to get a few more copies out of it. And I wonder if the fiction drawer is still anything like how I organized it. :)
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The Grovers left all the sudden when their premie baby passed away.
I was your editor while you did production, and I left soon after issue 36 was finished. I started at the end of 95 and left the end of 98.
Yeah, I remember all that, too. Good memories.
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Was 36 the one with the green lady on it?
That was the issue that was published right before I started working on TLE.
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Yeah. Pandora's box. That's the one I was editor for. I remember when you first started coming for slush pile reading.
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Are we reminiscing about TLE? There's so many good ones:
E and another guy, ironically named E3, driving off newbie after newbie by their insistence on introducing themselves by singing Blister in the Sun.
A statuesque hottie accidentally telling everyone her measurements, and never coming back again.
Reading "The Weather Psychic," the most impenetrably awful story ever submitted to us during my tenure there, and saying as much to the author, only to have her revise the opening paragraph and send it back for another go.
Being very excited when Loralee asked me to be the Editing Director, only to realize that nobody cared.
Submitting my own story under a false name, and listening to people both praise and denigrate it around the slush table.
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When you say "E" do you mean me or Skar? Because I believ Skar was forced to go by E. I don't remember ever singing Blister in the Sun at newbies.
However, I do remember Allan and I together frightening many a newbie off just by being our normal, loudmouth, boistrous selves
Also, you can't reminisce about TLE without recalling the public readings of prisoner poetry that came in. The one about Superman being high on kryptonite was all class.
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*checks herself in a the geriatrics ward* Heh... I'm getting my years all messed up. I was there from 94 to 96, the years of such stories as "Blue Plate Special" and the cover with the archer on it and the brown back. I'd list the editions I was around for, but alas I am at work and they are at home. :P
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It was definitely you, E. It was E3's idea, but you went along with it quite cheerfully.
But yeah, we all drove the newbies away anyway, with or without the help of the Violent Femmes.
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I'm not saying that I "did" or "did not" do such a thing. Nor am I saying that this is something I wouldn't do (for I certainly would). I'm just saying I don't remember that.
I do remember Loralee yelling at me to shut up and stop reading quite a bit.
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By the way, the girl who gave her rather impressive measurements, and whose name I've sadly forgotten, continued to come for many months after that. I don't think she was even embarrassed by it.
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Ellen. And yeah, you're right. It was some other, later embarrassing event that made her stop coming, but I'm not sure what it was--though I do remember her coming to a Magic game and standing in the doorway, afraid to actual come in.
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wasn't that the girl that EUOL had a crush on?
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Because I believ Skar was forced to go by E.
Huh?
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didn't they call you E because you were the first Ethan? And Ethan was E3 because he was the second Ethan.
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wasn't that the girl that EUOL had a crush on?
*snorts with laughter* Maybe that's what drove her away, not the embarrassing TMI moment involving measurements. ;) Gee, and I thought my TLE days were fun-filled! lol
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didn't they call you E because you were the first Ethan? And Ethan was E3 because he was the second Ethan.
Ah, of course. Yes, you are right. I misread your statement to be "Skar was forced to leave by E." And I thought, was I forced out of TLE and not even realize it?
I'm a moron.
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Skar did not become E until E3 showed up. Seven years later my son became E2, and one year after that SE became e.
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The next is the e. - Moby
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We never called Skar E when I was around at all.
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Remember the White Issue? I think it was Carl Ernstrom who designed that one. :) Not much of a cover, but as I recall it had some really good stuff inside it.
That's really sad about the Grovers. I didn't know that was why they left.
Once I became Production Director, I pretty much missed everything that was going on upstairs at the table. I kind of regret that. But I got to know the basement of the HumPub very well.
And everybody knows about the secret passage below the building, right?
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I was there at the tail end of Carl's time and in the days of the Grovers. Early nineties. I was the executive secretary and chief organizer of more back issues than I ever want to count and organize again.
After dusting away the cobwebs in my brain...I remember you now! (Relief) I felt like such a dufus because I couldn't remember your name, but I remember what you looked like. Brown hair, glasses, average height?
Remember the White Issue? I think it was Carl Ernstrom who designed that one. Not much of a cover, but as I recall it had some really good stuff inside it.
That was because we had no money for a cover. It was also a relatively short issue, too, if I recall. I remember him saying, "Maybe this will be the most popular issue of TLE, just like the White Albulm was for the Beatles!" Wishful thinking.
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Heh...close. Dark blonde hair, glasses, and nearly 6' tall, which is a bit over average for most women. ;)
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Mud. I must be thinking of someone else. Or else my memory is still too foggy. It's been, what, ten years? (Oh, am I that old? How depressing.)
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We are soooooo not bringing up how old we are. Nonononono!!!
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I'm 31. How old are you?
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I'll be 31 this fall. :P Seems so weird that college and TLE days are that far gone.
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I'll be 31 this fall.
Me, too.
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Wow, long train of TLEers. I just barely overlapped Ookla, e, EUOL, Skar, and several others, all of whom (save Brenna) had left by the time I got back from my mission--which put me on the fast-track to editor, so I can't complain too much. :)
'Course, I graduate in two months, and there ends that particular span of legacy. Hopefully TLE will continue for many years to come, though. *wills himself to not rant against current English Department politics*
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TLE has been around for over, what, twenty-five years? That's better than some professional magazines. If it's been able to survive the irritating meddling of the English Department at BYU for this long, it will continue to survive. Chalk it up to the dedicated people who go. Yay for TLEers!
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I think TLE has such a long life span because it is not in the business of making money. Instead, its main purpose is to be a gathering place for people interested in the genre and to provide great training ground for the publication industry.
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And I have Heather Judsen's Spanish class and Skar to thank for it all. ;D
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Ah, Jeremy. I remember the day when I was your assistant! Those were good times. I tried to get myself credited as "Slave to Mr. Caballero" in one of the issues, but I don't know if Vanessa let it fly or not.
Then you guys took off, and I began my nefarious plans to take over. <Evil Laughter>
As for Ellen, Sprig, I did think she was pretty, but I wouldn't say I had a crush on her. I'm not sure who you are thinking about. If I had been interested in Ellen, I would have asked her out, and I never did--and didn't ever really want to. The thing was, I got a strange vibe from her. It always felt like--behind her kind façade--she could barely stand being around so many nerds. It kind of bothered me.
Of course, it didn't help that any time I said anything to her--no matter how innocent--I got glares from half the women at the table.
Alan did, I believe, ask her out. Of course, who didn't he ask out....
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Alan did, I believe, ask her out. Of course, who didn't he ask out....
Me.
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He asked me out.
And Brandon, those glares from all the women still happen.
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I tried to get myself credited as "Slave to Mr. Caballero" in one of the issues, but I don't know if Vanessa let it fly or not.
Heh. I totally remember that. I think you just ended up being "Assistant to Mr. Caballero" in the masthead.
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I remember that, too, Brandon. But I wasn't going to bring it up, at least not directly. Didn't know how you felt about it. ;D
Dang it, I can't find that issue on my bookshelf. I must have put it somewhere. I have all the issues around it.
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Alan did, I believe, ask her out. Of course, who didn't he ask out....
And you weren't even at the bridal shower (was it Kaylynn's??) where a group of girls who were virtual strangers found out we'd all been asked out by Alan.