New Computer Set up

[Oseleon]

I would argue for Ford.

Personaly I like David Morell and Jack Higgins for my Spy Novels

[Peter Ahlstrom]

Harrison Ford is too much of an action movie hero to be Jack Ryan. The whole point of Ryan is that he's NOT a field agent; he's an analyst who gets thrown into situations where sitting at a desk isn't enough. Harrison Ford is no Jack Ryan.

[Entsuropi]

So I got my mini-mac. 3-4 weeks before its shipped they said. More like 3-4 hours.

Now... new OS. I'm like the jock, fumbling with the mouse like a anime character with her first tentacle. I mean, how do you delete programs? Normally its start menu-uninstall but there is no start menu! And the other method is control panel - add or remove programs, but no control panel, and the system preferences doesn't seem to have that in it :/

/me prods with a stick

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

find the files in the applicationss folder and drag to the trash on the bottom, then empty trash... the Mac also defrags as you go.

oh, while your at it you can drag the applications folder to the right side of the bar at the bottom

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

I'm like the jock, fumbling with the mouse like a anime character with her first tentacle.

thank you both for that mixed metaphor and horrible image.

[Oseleon]

Mmmm Anime Tentacled Mice.....

[Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock]

Entropy! Go to an Apple store and have them help! I went to a seminar type thing they had and it taught me a lot about these things. Thanks Jeffe for that too. It also taught me that there are some Asians who can't be differentiated between being a male or female. No offense to anymore, but the presentor seemed so... asexual. Honestly, I couldn't tell. And I doubt most of you'd be able to either. So don't harrass me on that. =P

[Oseleon]

The trick in making the mental shift between Win to Mac is that you have to stop "overthinking"
Mac is VERY intuitive, to a level that you overlook the simple solution cause you think "it cant be that easy"

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

I haven't found that to be the case. I haven't been able to find some things at ALL and I've found other things in the most unlikely places.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

thats cause you overthink everything

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

remember when we couldn't find the FTP password? Yeah, that's the sort of thing I'm talking about. It's not "overthinking" if you check every single frippin' menu and option and the thing simply doesn't exist.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

actually I found it, its super easy.. just have to mount the disk

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

and that is intuitive.... in what way?

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

because its an icon click and then the password info pops up... you dont even have to access the internet through the browser, and then you just treat the other end like a hard disk...

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

I connect to ftp with two clicks. That's it. Mounting it as a drive on your computer is counter-intuitive, sorry. I'm connecting to something else, I want to enter use/pass and then be done. If I want a path from my desktop/computer explorer/directory/whatever I can make a short cut, which is drag and drop.

Anything I want to do with FTP is much more intuitive in windows. I'm not saying macs are worse or anything, but telling me that everything is more intuitive just isn't true.