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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2004, 09:57:55 PM »
Zones

If I had any time
I'd waste it with you.
But there is none left
except what is left.
Going this way and that
or that way then this.
Where is it you're
going to and when?
Can I come with
or should I just forget?

Time is time, but
time is still time
no matter how
you look at it.
And then there is
time which is considered
time in east Instanbul (not Constantinople).
Why is time time overseas
but only rarely is time
ever time here.
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2004, 12:23:07 PM »
SILENCE YOU NON HUMANOID TEMPLATE ABBERANT!
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2004, 06:35:30 PM »
Fleeing for what?
the fear you feel, left you in the dark
while you tremble all alone
and you are wishing to be back in that park
that you used to go to on your own

Or that you were in her arms again
everything right, feels good to hold her tight
those little things you think about, every now and then
all coming tumbling back, in the midst of the night

The secret forest, the open beaches
and the treehouse where you used to hide
every one of them beseeches
that you come back to their side

Running away, back to them, back to her
but only in your dream
too many obstacles they all deter
together as a team

Back is blocked, forward is your fear
but what do you flinch back from
maybe the time is now, place is here
perhaps the time has come

fear no more, let the chill slip away
and the shaking steady out
because that one thought makes it all ok
and you forget what it was all about

That one thought relieves fear, heals pain
halts the frantic retreat
and then the darkness starts to wane
the monster is replete

I see these people give up before starting
and now I ask them why do you run
the fight is over there and we arent departing
until the deed is done

Courage comes with many faces
each person sees one exclusive
they are found in many different places
sometimes found reclusive

But they can be found if they are sought
I know my face, and I will not run
I will fight for my face, for my thought
for the haunting moon, and the bright clear sun
So why do you run?
« Last Edit: August 27, 2004, 06:45:01 PM by Archon »
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2004, 08:27:32 PM »
I can't hold it in any longer.

Bad Teen Gothic Poetry is not real Poetry. In fact, ANY teen poetry is not real poetry, any more than an untrained person blowing randomly into a saxaphone is a muscisian.

ah, that feels better.
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2004, 11:27:02 PM »
 Â    First, I would never refer to myself as a goth, there are plenty of them at my school and I am in no way connected. I am not writing about how life sucks or how everything is empty and worthless, my last one was supposed to be hopeful and encouraging. Second, who is to say that being older makes you any better of a writer? Sure, experience does help you to improve, but just because you are older doesnt mean you have more experience writing. Even if you did, you had to acquire that experience somewhere, and the best way to improve is to show other people what you write. So are you setting an age restriction? Are you going to card me like I was walking into a bar?  Also, as you get older, most people become less creative, thereby their creative writing degenerates.  Third of all, you are no more qualified to judge what is and isnt poetry than anyone else. You can have your opinion, but don't be so arrogant as to consider that yours is the most valid. Even assuming that you were right to criticize our "writing", since it can't be considered poetry, having someone rip on your writing that bad sucks. Especially if you are sensitive about what you are writing about, which a lot of people are with poetry. Personally, I don't care about my stuff, you can have at it, but I think that that is very low to cut off the others like that. If you want to criticize, be a little more constructive about it.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2004, 12:17:20 AM by Archon »
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2004, 11:42:09 PM »
just to pick nits. showing writing does nothing. listening to the criticism of those you show it to and finding the critiques that are worthwhile, then APPLYING it, THAT improves your writing.

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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2004, 11:43:48 PM »
Jam, I'm going to have to agree with Archon on this one, if you didn't like his, or Gemms, or YS's, or my poetry "and such", as in my case, you could have come out and said it in a civil way.  

You could have also given a valid reason for disliking it, because age discimination is as unacceptable as any other kind, and because not only is not everything in this thread gothic, but I wouldn't count ANYTHING in this thread gothic.  

And, of course, you could always give some constructive critisism, since you seems to be such a better writer than anyone who has thus far posted here, or if you weren't talking about everyone then specified which poems, and such, you were talking about, since nothing here fits the description of "Teenage Gothic Poetry"

Archon, you forgot a comma.  ;D.

Mod: And now seeing SE's post, yeah, you're right SE.  I think Archon meant something along the lines of "showing people your writing and getting a constructive response, which JP certainly didn't give.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2004, 11:45:24 PM by GorgontheWonderCow »
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2004, 11:58:22 PM »
     Yes, that is more along the lines of what I was getting at. I was also though, just pointing out to JP that it was necessary to share what you write to improve. Otherwise we wouldn't have a reason to be showing everyone what we wrote and he would be more justified in saying that we can practice as long as we keep it to ourselves.
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2004, 12:15:43 AM »
I look at the keyboard...
becuase otherwise I cant see what I'm typing.
it looks back.
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
I'm poking out it's eyes...
hmm, volcanoe season.
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2004, 12:21:18 AM »
Well, at least JP wont be on everyone else's back anymore, how could he...
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2004, 11:32:49 AM »
Well SE, no one ever gives me criticisim on my poetry. So I have no comments to further this "arguement."
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2004, 12:21:29 PM »
Do you want to be criticized? If you ask for it I will look and see if I can find something to say about them, but you never asked.
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2004, 01:38:11 AM »
well ya know, JP and entropy love to pick on me so  I thought I'd help
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2004, 02:33:56 AM »
See, it's obvious you want us to pick on you. That's why we won't do it, since we that will annoy you more.
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Re: Poetry and Such...
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2004, 02:45:48 AM »
not necesarilly, I just know you do and that it would distract you from going crazy on an otherwise reasonable thread, and see you've stopped yelling at them and are now attempting to put me in my place, the system works... kinda...
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