Muboop, I wasn't trying to call you a sinner. I was simply stating my personal beliefs, because that's what it seemed to me you were asking.
fair enough however its the only way i could take what you said!
As for my supposed naivety. I'm not that naive. Sheltered, yes. Naive, no. And yes, there IS a difference. The difference being experience as opposed to knowledge. So I'm "sheltered" because I really haven't experienced a whole lot. But I'm not naive, because I actually know quite a bit.
mabey but mabey it is an unbringing of where you are from or soemthing, but when im from its common at my age. im only 20 btw. and although i dont condone people who sleep around, i think perfectly aceptable between two people who are in love and mature enough to understand and appreciate it. i think a marriage title shouldn't have a place in it.
I'm not even going to answer your questions about the immorality. You know my opinions on that. They haven't changed since I wrote that, and I really doubt that they're going to change.
i ask this out of curiousity mabey, and of form of debate. do you think a couple together for half a year and married, that they are ok to sleep together. are a couple together for say 6 years living together whom fuly intend to get married in the future but dont want to make a full committment yet. are they immoral?
can you explain to why they would be if you think they are and the married couple are?
i genuinely believe marriage is only a title, and one that seems to mean less and less every day with the high rate of divorce.
Where do I live? Southern Idaho. I wasn't trying to be stereotypical when I said the people I know who are married have only slept with each other. That was a statement of fact. I was debating you saying it was "rare" to find people who hadn't. It's only rare depending on where you look. Yes, there are PLENTY of places were it is rare to find those like you said. But there are other places where it's incredibly easy. I live in a place like the latter.
you have to agree do that where you are from has a minority in in views, very few places in the christian world are as zealous as your area. i think you take the word of "God" to the unecessar extreme for the most part. Ireland is where im from and we are by no means not a religious country, but yet we dont try to think to hold others to our own standards, but rather hold ourselves to our own! and let others do as they will.
we are a rather tolerant people!
I kind of take offense to the whole "use a dictionary more often" statement. I know the dictionary definition of adultery. To me, though, it's more than what's just in the dictionary. It's more than cheating on your spouse. To me, it's immorality in general.
see thats you imo taking more from the bible then it is giving, it isnt worded there so why create it so?
also i feel totaly justified in my comment, as i am right in what i am saying.
you cannot turn around to me and basically call me stupid for saying sex before marriage isnt in the commandments then say oh but i dont realy take the words at their actual meanings... because that is what i said! i gave their meanings. end of!
Yes, I have heard of the Council of Niccea. I actually did a project for a Religion class on it a little over a year ago. What you said is nothing new to me. I believe the Council was a horrible idea. A bunch of people getting together to decide and vote about God and Christ? That's just dumb.
i totaly agree! and due to this the bible hs been distorted!
we dont actually know about christs humanity at all! something which i think is way more important. to see how he acted when faced with situations we would face everyday!
we can speculate as you do that he was the perfect person, but all we know of are his greatness! he was beaten etc everything to do with his death and his greatness before it. but did he ever give into temptatiosn of any sort whether to fight back etc?
sure we were given pleanty of important stuff, but not everything! if jesus was so perfect why not let us see his flaws? let us see how he got past them, how he conquered his fears and made up for any mistakes!
As for learning more. No problems there. I'm also a university student, and I can always learn more. Love learning more. And you're right. I do need to travel more. But traveling requires money, which I'm just a little short on right now....Although, I am planning on going to Britain and France in May through BYU-I, but....again. Money.
travelling does require money! i have paid for every trip myself i have ever been on all the while getting a chemical engineering degree in the most prestigeous university in ireland. it can be done if you want! iv travelled to the states for 3 months, been to asia, australia and about 80% of europe! not that im saying im great or anything, but im more trying to say, its worth it! give it a shot! broadens your mind! seriously so! and the experiences you get are worth it
I'm not making any "calls". Pretty much every statement that I have made so far on here, I've qualified in some way that this is as it is in my own life. The people that I know. My personal experience. I know there are other views that exist. I have a good idea what most of those views entail. But I do not share some of those, and so I was simply stating my own opinions. Take them for what you will.
i do, and i respectively disagree with most of them.