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Reading Excuses / Re: Mar 2 - Queen'sOpal - Part 5
« on: March 14, 2009, 07:54:03 AM »
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Drynn reached out but was unable to find even a rock to use against the beast. Its claws bit into Drynn’s side and the weight made it difficult to breathe.
He stopped struggling.
While I liked the use of the indent, I'm not really sure why he would stop struggling.
Because he was being suffocated by a huge panther. I'll see if I can bring that out more....
I guess I mean, personally if I was in his position, I like to think I would keep on fighting. I just find it easier to respect a character that will fight to his last breath and not give up when things get rough. However, its not a major sticking point and I could easily forget it if I was reading your book as a printed novel.


While I was reading, I thought Drynn's behavior matched his character.  I haven't read the earlier chapters yet, but Drynn seems to have a somewhat poor opinion of himself.  He sees other characters as better than himself and he berates himself for any failing.  You get that in his point of view.  That he would want to curl into a ball when he is attacked seems to fit.

The one problem was when the panther attacked Drynn the second time, but couldn't hurt him because of ONE  stuck paw was a little unrealistic. I couldn't buy that while attacking, the panther would not bite or scratch with the other paw, and would take a break to free one paw. I think it would still go after him.

I think the panther come across fairly realistically.  Cats will worry at things if they get their paws stuck.  My daughter will forget whatever she was doing or wanting and fight long and hard to free her hand if you hold it.  I think the panther would stop attacking if it couldn't get its paw unentangled.

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Reading Excuses / Re: 3-2-09 Reaves: Crystalheart, Chapter Eleven
« on: March 05, 2009, 04:51:10 AM »

---Some of the discussion about the wars between neighboring kingdoms had me lost.  I don't know if you introduced these people in an earlier chapter.  If you did, maybe others weren't so lost.  If you haven't introduced them before, it is too much discussion about people I really don't care about.
Really? I assume you are referring to the bit about the war between the Tiger of Achera and Nazreeb? I thought it was only a sentence or two. Was it really too much?


I'd have to reread that part to be sure, but I remember the guards mentioning two or three princes, a couple of different countries, and a couple of different peoples (as in nationalities).  It may only have been a couple of paragraphs, but I remember my mind glazing over that bit because I read about all these names and places I didn't care about.  If those people and places aren't going to be important later, then you might have the guards be more general in their conversation.  As I said, I thought the bit about the destruction of Hallastan effective for making me worry about Ilis.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Mar 2 - Queen'sOpal - Part 5
« on: March 04, 2009, 05:58:17 AM »
Let your agent figure it out!

Could you send me the back chapters, please?  :D

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Reading Excuses / Re: Mar 2 - Queen'sOpal - Part 5
« on: March 04, 2009, 04:35:33 AM »
More Thoughts While Reading:
---"Drynn's eyes never left where the cat had been  and saw it flicker out existence." 
          I think you mean "out of existence."

---"Cindle jerked back without flinching." 
          What does this mean?  The cat is at her back, so she is jerking toward the cat?

---"It did little to dislodge the cat . . ." 
          Dislodge the cat from where?  The cat is standing on the ground swiping at Cindle.

---". . . all she met was empty air. . . . She clutched it with both hands and looked around wildly. . ." 
          When did the cat disappear?  Drynn's attack doesn't make the cat budge, but it is gone when Cindle takes a swing at it?

---"Drynn looked up wildly. . . . The cat jerked back and the branch broke." 
          It is a little unclear what is happening in this paragraph, and clarity is fairly important because this is where Tayvin enters the scene.

---That cat was fun!

---"At home he was often the one people spoke over, now he was being spoke to over someone else." 
          What does this mean? (And you need to use a period or maybe semicolon, not a comma to separate these sentences.)

---"Well, anyway, after I got the dwarves back, I couldn't . . ." 
          Back from where? To where?  The dwarves were returned to Tayvin?  This phrase is a little unclear.

---"They never did because it was so easy to hunt or forge as they . . ." 
          I think you mean forage. Not forge.

---". . . 'for humans anyway,' she said them . . ." 
          She said to them.

---Fun chapter.  On to chapter 7!  You say this is YA, but the tone so far suggests a bit younger.  Middle-grade maybe?  Closer to Fablehaven or something similar.

---"Let go! Let go I'm not tried!" 
          You mean tired and I think you need a period between "go" and "I'm."

---". . . right in the middle of the forest Elba." 
          'Elba Forest' sounds better.

---". . . Drynn would have smiled of he had any means to . . ." 
          You mean 'smiled if he had any means to'.

---"They all came out into the Elban Forest . . ." 
          Elban?

---Clever!  Now I understand why you use the name Elba.

---"You're skipping ahead. Your bother was born first." 
          While brothers may be bothers, I think you mean the former not the latter.  ;D

---". . . whirled around wildly; trying to orientate himself." 
          The semicolon is weird here.  A comma is better.

---Titiania is a strange name.  I don't know if you mean Titania.  Your story seems to want to be read aloud and no middle schooler will keep a strait face when they hear a city named Titi.

---"It was easier now . . . barren land." 
          I'm not sure what you are trying to say in this sentence.

---"And you, I thought . . . giving it to him." 
          I don't think commas are the correct punctuation in this section.  i think maybe you want to suggest that all her words come in a rush together, but the commas are weird.

---". . . knew when she stopped; he would be forced . . ." 
          Here you should have used a comma instead of a semicolon.

---"He is so . . . i do not know, different yet not at the same time." 
          Not different at the same time as what?

---" . . .skin that tanned in the sun." 
          Are they watching him get more brown?  How do they know his skin tans?  I guess maybe Drynn got it from his books.

---" a typical shepherd" 
          Typical to whom?  The elves sure think he's strange.

---". . . it was dark and the sheep heard . . ." 
          Herd, not heard.

---Wow! That was a fun read!

General thoughts:
---This is a fun and exciting story.  I think the age will be younger than YA, but not by much.

---The cat battle was well written and well choreographed.  Any oddities I mentioned in the above post.

---The dream sequence was very clear and left us with a tantalizing mystery.

---The use of commas and semicolons came off strangely in various parts.  I'm not sure what you were trying to do with them, but it was jarring as I read.

---Be careful about the use of 'Elba' and 'Elban.'  It might confuse the reader.

---If the "while reading" section seems nit-picky, it is because I found your story so enjoyable that I had little to say regarding any major flaws.  I didn't really find major flaws.  Only the minor ones mentioned above.

---I really liked this story!  ;D

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Reading Excuses / Re: Mar 2 - Queen'sOpal - Part 5
« on: March 04, 2009, 02:52:07 AM »
Thoughts While Reading:
---(These come from reading the outline.)  I like the names you use except two.  Drow are dark elves from Dungeons & Dragons and you will be hard pressed to overcome several decades of immediate association.  Elba is an island off the coast of France where Napoleon was exiled, the first time.  If you are going to use actual names of things in the real world, they need to be more obscure than this.

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Reading Excuses / Re: 3-2-09 Hamster Soul Taker Chapter 2
« on: March 04, 2009, 01:57:19 AM »
I think the scene with the inn might be more understandable if Kale notices the decrepitude of the inn and how suspicious everyone is when he walks in.  As it is, it appeared like a normal inn that has fallen on hard times, but the regular customers come to enjoy a laugh and a drink.  Then suddenly the innkeeper is kissing Kale's boots, he sends thugs to quietly(?) rob Kale, Kale breaks up merry revelers, and then a guard pops out of thin air.

 If times are as hard as that, people should be wallowing in their alcohol and wouldn't be happy no matter how drunk they got.

If the innkeeper is so devious as to send thugs to rob and murder his patrons, we need a hint of that when we first meet him.

If the guard is hanging around the inn, we need to hear of it before he bursts out of nowhere.

I guess I'm talking about foreshadowing the little things as well as the big ones.

I thought the action worked really well.  There were just a few word choices, "throw up feet" for example, that jarred me out of the narrative.  Also some sequences were hard to follow.  As hokey as it may be, you might get some friends or some action figures and pantomime how the various kicks and punches follow one another.  Then you can ask "Could someone really pull this move off?" or "How exactly should I describe this punch?"

~Mathom

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Reading Excuses / Re: 3-2-09 Hamster Soul Taker Chapter 2
« on: March 03, 2009, 08:56:14 PM »
Some Thoughts While Reading:
---Why is the innkeeper nervous?  Are swords strange to see on travelers in this setting?
---This inn must be really huge to have a room without windows.
---The innkeeper goes from apologetic to nervous sycophant.  Interesting.
---Everybody seems to stutter.
---Kale is a tormentor and a brute? Hmm . . .
---OOOoo!  Do we get to find out more about forging souls into daggers?!
---Men rush quietly into a room?!  With a broken door?
---Are Kale and the thug just watching the little guy die?  Is he the center of attention or is he dying quietly in the background?
---Be careful about your use of pronouns.  I'm getting lost in all the him's.
---Why were the other inn patrons merry?  This inn seems a pretty gloomy, decrepit place.
---Where'd that guard come from?  Was he waiting outside?  Was he following Kale?  He just rushes in a tries to arrest Kale? What?!
---What was the guards question?
---Whoa.  Kale's "I want your soul" was creepy and disturbing.  And then he sets the place on fire?!  This guy is scary.


General Thoughts:
---A very dark chapter.  You set the mood well and maintained it throughout the chapter.

---If Kale is the protagonist, I'm not sure I can root for him.  He isn't a very human character yet.  He does make a great villain, though.

---Be careful about grammar.  There were several times where words were missing or repeated so that the sentence didn't make sense.  Also be careful about the use of pronouns.  There were several places where it wasn't clear who "he" and "him" referred to.

---In some sections I had a hard time suspending disbelief.  I'll try to deal with those specifically.

Specific Thoughts:
---Why was the inn keeper nervous?  A traveler entering an inn carrying a sword shouldn't be that strange in a war torn land.  If it is strange, it needs to be set up as such before the reader gets to that part.

---The innkeeper needs to start obsequious if he is going to end up a simpering sycophant.  He starts out fairly normal and then before he sees any reason (other than a sword, which I mentioned) he begins grovelling for this traveler.

---The inn seems a run down and gloomy place, but people are making merry?  It startled me.

---The guard suddenly rushing in came out of nowhere.  You may want to mention him before we get inside the inn.  That way when he appears after the fight, he doesn't jump out of the air.

---"For any, er, trouble . . ."  Kale seems a self-confident character.  He shouldn't stutter in front of the innkeeper.

---The description of the collapse of the inn is very good, very ominous.  But it is in there twice.

---I found it hard to believe that a room full of guards who are supposed to defend an impenetrable castle would ignore the entrance of a strange figure in the dead of night.  I would think the guards nearest Kale would at least wonder who he was.

---Your magic system is interesting, but it threw me off the narrative until I had read for a ways after its introduction.  The soul takers step into another realm that sort of overlays the normal realm and souls appear as little balls of blue light?  I think it has potential, but the introduction about hanging fruit didn't really establish what was happening.

---The fight between soul takers was engaging.  I'm not sure how Kale won, though.  He was losing the whole time and the description is not clear how he managed to knock the other guys sword out of his hand.

---Kale is one creepy, evil guy.  I'm really hoping he is not the guy I am supposed to be rooting for.  Not unless something happens to make me like him, or at least sympathize with him on some level.

---Clever transition between Kale's assault on the castle and the King awakening to learn his sister is dead.

Nit-picky Thoughts:
---"He wrenched it open . . ., tearing out the handle."  Those doors must have been poorly constructed or Kale can't possibly be as tired as he seems.  Even if he isn't tired, it is hard to tear a door handle off.

---"Kale blocked his enemy's sword as it whirled through the air in an uppercut swing with one dagger;"  From the construction it is not clear whether the sword is whirling through the air with a dagger (which is silly) or whether Kale used the dagger to block the sword (which I think you meant).

---"Kale fell down . . . throwing his foot up at the man's hands,"  I guess feet can be "thrown up" but it bothered me as I was reading.  Maybe "kicked out" or something similar would be better in this sentence.
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Those are my thoughts.  I noticed you felt you had to defend yourself from my "while reading" comments.  Don't. Your writing is your own and you don't have to defend yourself to me.  I'm just a potential buyer of your next novel and I'm letting you know what difficulties I had with the narrative.  You can take my comments or leave them.

~Mathom

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Reading Excuses / Re: 3-2-09 Reaves: Crystalheart, Chapter Eleven
« on: March 03, 2009, 08:03:43 PM »
General Comments:
---It was an entertaining read.  The start was compelling enough that I wanted to finish and also I was wondering if the rest of the back chapters weren't posted somewhere.

---Sometimes your word choice threw me out of the narrative.  I'll get more specific later.

---I thought the chapter started with a bang: "There it is! There it is! I see it!" But it ended with a bit of a whimper.  I would like to see some event happen at the end of the chapter that makes me anxious to read the next chapter.

---I like the way you name things.  Hokey names are one of my biggest pet-peeves in non-comedic fantasy.

---I get a good sense of wonder from the setting: it is a sweeping city full of ruins.

---In regards to grammar, it threw me off when you used a semi-colon to denote a list.  It happened a couple of times and each time my mind said, "something is wrong here."

Specific Comments:
---My biggest problem with the whole narrative was the description of the city.  I'm still not sure how it is organized.  You describe it as a spider web with a main street spiraling outward and spokes running radially, but then you talk about inner and outer circles.  I got totally confused.  Plus, then you start talking about how all the buildings are derelict.  I gathered by the end that you were describing how the city looked in some past time and then were describing how it looked at the present, but I was really confused throughout the section.

---The part with the monk seems totally out of place, as though it were inserted just so you could describe the theology of the book.  Either it needs to be introduced somewhere else or the event with the monk needs to be more significant.

---I thought the use of a strange language was interesting, but it makes me wary of the narrative.  I haven't read any other chapters so I don't know how much you use a created language, but languages are my second pet-peeve in fantasy writing.  Most writers make up languages in an attempt increase the strangeness of their setting, but almost none can pull it off convincingly because most writers have not studied how a language is constructed.  Tolkien could do it because he was a professor of languages.  Also Tolkein was very careful in his use of made-up languages.  For the most part they don't appear in the actual narrative; they mostly appear in the poems and side-stories that the characters introduce, or that are found in the appendix.  I would advise care with your use of strange tongues.

---Some of the discussion about the wars between neighboring kingdoms had me lost.  I don't know if you introduced these people in an earlier chapter.  If you did, maybe others weren't so lost.  If you haven't introduced them before, it is too much discussion about people I really don't care about.

---I knew from the quick summary provided that Hallastan was important.  I thought the talk with the guards was effective for making me worry about Ilis.

Nit-picky Comments:
---"Another cheer rose up among the caravan.  They rushed forward . . ."  How does a caravan rush forward?  You write caravan and I imagine oxen, wagons, horses and people.  The people might rush forward, but wagons can't really.

---"'The aspects of God are seven,' he said . . ."  The he is a bit ambiguous.  Context isn't enough to immediately know whether Marlin or the monk is "he."

---" . . . spoken in a language dead and buried, with moss on the headstone and nothing but dust and spiders in the grave."  While I thought this a clever turn of phrase, I also felt it didn't fit with the narrative.  It's a dead language. Ok.

---". . . a great empty shaft resounded with the pale lights."  How does a shaft resound with light?  Sounds resound.  I think I know what you were meaning, but "resound" was a weird word to choose.

---"Finally the platform halted, . . ."  What you want to suggest is the passage of time.  "Finally" suggests accomplishing things after a series of events, or after several tries.  It was a little thing that detracted from the narrative.
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Those are my thoughts.  To the forum in general I wanted to ask, do you writers have a website, weblog, or somewhere online where readers can find earlier chapters if they are interested?

~Mathom

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Reading Excuses / Re: Your Background
« on: February 26, 2009, 05:50:29 AM »
My name is Mathom.  I'm 20< my age< 30. ;D  In life I am Daniel.  I'm a senior physics undergrad at Brigham Young University.

Mathom is what creative writing has been to me---a long-forgotten gift that I never got rid of, but that I never had any real use for.  I loved creative writing in elementary school and would write about all sorts of different things, mostly fantasy of some sort.  I never could finish anything because the beginning was always the most interesting part.  Then in freshman year of high school, my English teacher had us do creative writing for a few weeks after which he said that that was the last creative writing we would do during our school years.  I don't think he meant it to be prophetic, but for me it has been, mostly.  Except for a sort blurb just after high school, I haven't written anything since those early weeks in the 9th grade.

So why am I writing on this forum?  That short blurb just after high school was a transition in my life and I found outlet by writing stories (mostly in my head) to mimic my situation.  I grew up and got over teenage angst and went off to college.  Then I found Writing Excuses through Schlock Mercenary and the weekly encouragement and discussion niggled at me to write the story that was still in my head from those years before.  Today I sat down and used four hours I didn't have to begin the first chapter.  But I'd like help to make this novel the story I really want to tell.

My story was originally conceived as an episodic cartoon and I am in my writing trying to describe the scenes I see in my head.  For once, inspiration came to me with an entire story: beginning, conflict, twist, middle, development, climax, end.  I don't see everything, but I see all the bits that have to be there.  It has many influences from fantasy and animation.  The main idea that was its genesis was, "What would happen if magic and technology grew together in this world? If we had the same industrial revolution and technology boom, but that magic was also a part of that world?"  The second idea was, "What would people do if they could waive their hand a have anything they want (almost)?  What if magic made work as we know it unnecessary?"  Crystal Palaces is the result---a dirty, hedonistic city which floats above a broken, poisoned world.

At the moment I only have one story to tell, but there may be others.  I am most interested in fantasy.  I love the writings of J.R.R. Tolkein, Terry Pratchett, Douglas Adams, Patricia Wrede, and Alexander Lloyd.  I'm a fan of graphic novels (BONE by Jeff Smith being one of my favorites) and I love the simplistic artwork of Japanese comics and animation.

I love physics and mathematics and I may not have a whole lot of time for writing with the start of graduate school, but I need to get this story out of my head.  I hope that I can entertain you, though I am afraid you may see deeper into the dark recesses of my soul than I intend.  I may disturb you and that is ok too so long as I can leave you with some sense of hope for the world.

Anyway, that may have been more than was sufficient for an introduction. Oh well.  I look forward to giving and getting criticism.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: February 26, 2009, 05:00:39 AM »
I'm willing to critique and I'd like advice and comments (when I finally finish something).

 
Not sure I understand the submission deadlines thing.  I may not have anything to submit for a while.  It all depends on how crazy school and work go.  But when I do get something, I'd like to submit it.

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