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OK, this long weekend, I am definately going to sit down and read this entire thread, it's galling me that I don't know what's been said already.
1. I just find it odd that Marsh never mentions where he taps gold from, and we know that ALL inquisitors have this ability, so do they all have gold spikes for no reason other than to store health in?  And wouldn't they realize the ability it gives them?
2. Secondly, if Atium isn't really part of the wheel, is there another feruchemical and hemalurgic metal to replace it?  How would hemalurgists get the powers of gold and electrum without atium, and could feruchemists still store ages, or would the next metal give a different attribute.
3. Also, in one of Brandon's posts, he says something about "the three worlds,"  I'm guessing Opelon and Scadriel are two, and the third is the warbreaker world?  With all the interest in this last topic, I'm sure it has already been discussed.
Sorry I'm turning into a lurker, I'm really busy!  I'll be on more this weekend!

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3.  A compass would work, but remember that the Final Empire is set at the north pole of Scadrial, but not necessarily at the magnetic north pole.  These things are complicated, but just assume that it works the same way it would here on Earth.

Hold on there.

If say, Luthadel, is at the north pole (and not necessarily the magnetic one, so they're on top of the axis the planet is turning around) *and* there are seasons on said planet (meaning that the planets axis isn't completely perpendicular to the imaginary line from planet to sun), doesn't that mean that they'll have very long days in summer and very long nights in winter?

Having said that, this would allow for interesting options on how the people on the south pole did survive.

In fact, that's similar to the way things work around here on our little earth. However, a thing as days with 22 hours of sunlight in the summer but 2 hours of sunlight in the winter seems like something that would've been mentioned, so I'm probably wrong here. Thus, either a) there is an inconsistency in the Mistborn world, b) Brandon just never mentioned this in his books or c) the seasons are caused by something other than the non-perpendicularity mentioned above.

c) would be interesting. Maybe the planet goes around the sun in an egg-shape (would make winter longer than summer I guess)? Maybe the sun is hotter on one side?

P.S. I just used the word (?) non-perpendicularity. Please bow before me in awe.

I have a feeling that Rashek spun the world or took care of this somehow to put Luthadel in a much safer position--so, after he changed the world, Luthadel, or the WoA, weren't magnetic north.

That's just my guess.

You didn't get it It's not about being magnetic north, it's about being op top of the planet. This top is generally named "north pole".

Sorry lol, I thought what I said sort-of explained that.  To me, it seems that he changed everything, including the 'top of the planet.'  There were still mountains to the north of Luthadel that had snow, I think he just kind of mutated the world.

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How could it not fit within that?  You say it needs to affect the people.  It's their body that is burning the metal.  So it's affecting how their body interacts with the metals not necessarily affecting the metals themselves.

If that's the justification, then Aluminum and Duralumin effect the user's body, not their metals.

I could see Chromium suppressing metal usage, but probably not outright burning off metals. Still a bit lost on Nicrosil...

Yeah exactly.   In that example, they both effect metals in the same way.   Look at the Mental group.   One pair effects people's emotions, the other detects and protects people using metals.   The one has nothing to do with metal at all, but the other effects both the people and the metal together.   That is exactly how the Enhancement group should work.   One effects the people and the metal together, the other should not effect metal at all.   I could see Chromium and Nicrosil effecting other people in the same way Tin and Pewter effect oneself.   That would at least follow the pattern.   That is also unlikely though as no other metals mimic the abilities of another group.   In any case, I continue my efforts to not only redefine what the metals do but to also to find the last two metals(in place of atium and malatium) and determine what the last four metals do/are supposed to do according to the patterns and not according to Brandon's misdirection(The tables at the back of the book are misdirecting us IMO).