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Title: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 01, 2005, 09:25:19 AM
Big News on the Front Page! (http://www.timewastersguide.com/)

If you've been wondering why I've been so grumpy, I've been nervous and anxious. But last night everything came together! Yay us!

What do you think of this development?
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: 42 on April 01, 2005, 09:44:11 AM
Funny.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: JP Dogberry on April 01, 2005, 09:44:24 AM
Yeah, great partnership deal, I'm glad it went through. I didn't want to say anything before this, but I signed the contracts last night, they arrived in the mail quickly.

I'm looking forward to centralising to more D&D stuff, definitly. Plus Magic the gathering. I'll start covering more of that instead of Shadowfist.

Still, I'm getting some pretty good payments in my role as "Forum Moderator/Community Builder/International Correspondant", enough to quit my helpdesk job.

Thanks guys, I'm glad you thought of this deal, and I'm glad our Wizards friends decided to go through with it.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Greg_Callahan on April 01, 2005, 09:51:37 AM
Hi, this is Greg Callhan from the Wizards Journlism division.

I'd just like to say we're very pleased with the deal too. TWG is an excellent site, that we're glad to have as a part of our growing network.

You'll be seeing a bit more of me around, of course, but anyway, a toast to the long life of the partnership!
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Entsuropi on April 01, 2005, 09:51:40 AM
Does this mean we have to drop all the negative reviews of stuff we have done over the years?
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on April 01, 2005, 09:52:57 AM
Exuberant! Now I must go out and get myself something completely insubstantial. Fowl-Mart!
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on April 01, 2005, 09:54:07 AM
Is there a list of threads with other websites who are doing something like this?
(By "This" I mean, ummm, of course the buyout)
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 01, 2005, 09:54:42 AM
Welcome to the boards Greg!

As for the reviews... we haven't decided exactly what to do about that. Wizards content will be primarily strategy, tips, adventures, and new rules sorts of things. Project TW(i)G will be moving ahead quickly, since that's what I'm being paid to do now. Reviews will obviously be a conflict of interest, so we'll only review non-Wizards products. Right now, the old reviews (even the bad ones) are staying. I think there will probably be at least one meeting about it though.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 01, 2005, 09:55:29 AM
fuzzy, haven't seen one, but "webcomics and free stuff" is a good place for it.
I just made one (http://www.timewastersguide.com/boards/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=webcomics;action=display;num=1112363864)
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on April 01, 2005, 09:56:22 AM
I also must know. Each post we post from now on, is that added onto our bonus'? Or just a commision?
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: JP Dogberry on April 01, 2005, 09:57:38 AM
Het Greg, glad I'm up late enough to catch you.

Are we going to be seeing some reviews from you as well? Or are we happy to have you just boss us around? Good to hear from you, anyway.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 01, 2005, 09:58:54 AM
You don't get paid at all, Gemm. Sorry, I tried, citing you as an attraction. But if I have any pull, I'll get you a little something for the Word of the Week and the polls you do.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: JP Dogberry on April 01, 2005, 10:02:19 AM
Yeah, I'm pushing for freelance at six per word, but Greg wanted a flat rate per article.

The deals gone through, but there's still a bunch to be organised. Luckily, we've been doing it all through webconferencing so all of us can meet.

I should get some sleep so I can be at the one scheduled for tomorrow, anyway.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: n8sumsion on April 01, 2005, 10:58:36 AM
So is this an April Fool's Day prank? Or is this for real? Since I'm not really affiliated with TWG in any way other than posting obnoxious comments, my opinion doesn't mean much. But if this news is for real, it doesn't really excite me. When the site was just a hobby, we could kind of chat about things, spout our opinions in an open environment. But now that it is backed by a specific company, won't that mean the site will officially have a marketing agenda? You're already discussing restrictions on what can or can't be talked about.

So I guess this is good news for those of you who are financially affected by this change, I offer you a sincere congratulations. But for my own personal situation, I count this as potentially being a bad thing. I'll hold out a final judgment until I see how things start to shake out, but I remain cautiously skeptical...
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 01, 2005, 11:09:12 AM
thanks for giving us a chance n8. The restrictions ONLY extend to what content we'll be running as articles. We won't be running Wizards materials reviews because that would be a conflict of our interests as employees of Wizards.

As for the forum itself, there's two concerns. We're going to try and keep it distinct from the main Wizards  boards, though i'm betting some cross registration stuff will have to be worked out. That's yet to be coded.

However, we always have the interests of our readers in mind. So the forum will always be free speech. If you don't like  a Wizards product, then say why. Pointless and inflamatory speech will still be edited, obviously, but just because you have a negative opinion doesn't mean you can't say so here.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Fellfrosch on April 01, 2005, 12:18:55 PM
I want to assure everybody that we're doing our best to keep the site's feel,a nd I think we'll have WotC's support because that's largely what attracted them to us in the first place. We're a community site run by fans and frequented by fans, which means that we can discuss different topics, and in different ways, than WotC's own forums. In the end, the visible changes to the site will be:

1) All coverage will remain the same, but anything we write about WotC products will be classified as an article rather than a review.

2) Since SE, Jam and I no longer have "real" jobs to get in the way (well, Jam never had a real job before, either, but now he's getting paid), coverage will be much deeper and more frequent.

3) Since we are now subsidized by a large company, we will have more contests and product giveaways.

4) This is kind of a bummer, but part of the deal was that WotC would only take us if we got rid of Spriggan. He was very involved in the coding and administration of the old site, but the new WotC web programmers simply refused to work with him. We're sad to lose him, but we think the site will be a little better overall.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Tage on April 01, 2005, 12:49:55 PM
Well, since WotC's programmers are going to be doing the new site, I can see I'm not needed around here. Besides, I can't continue to associate with you sell-outs who would abandon my good friend Spriggan. If Spriggan goes, I go!
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 01, 2005, 01:04:47 PM
awww Tage, don't be that way.

It is unfortunate that we had to break some people off from their roles when they've contributed so much, but I think most everyone will appreciate what's happening with the site.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Spriggan on April 01, 2005, 01:20:47 PM
All I have to say to this is:

Screw you guys, I'm going home!

(http://images.picsearch.com/is?361617377466)

Sniff you jerks later.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 01, 2005, 02:00:06 PM
Dude, you were so much cooler about this last night. Can't you just wish your friends good luck?
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Spriggan on April 01, 2005, 02:10:53 PM
Well it's obvious you didn't fight to have me included, you just rolled over when the cheque came.  I've been with this site longer then you, and yet I'm the first to get the boot.  You had better watch your back SE or Fell will stab it like he did mine.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 01, 2005, 02:14:20 PM
It's cool for you guys that you're getting paid.  If I were in your shoes, I'd probably be excited for the same.  It really does suck for Spriggan, though. . .
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Fellfrosch on April 01, 2005, 02:15:29 PM
I did my best for you, Sprig, but...this is a lot of money. Would a free pack of Magic cards make you feel better?
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 01, 2005, 02:18:45 PM
Standard issue for Wizards employees is a +5 suit of Plate armor. I don't think Fell will be stabbing me anytime soon.

But seriously, sprig, we did what we could. I don't know what else to say.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Greg_Callahan on April 01, 2005, 02:22:39 PM
Spriggan, I wnat you to know that everyone, including me, tried really hard to keep you on board. It just didn't work out. I could say a whole lot of things about the budgets of the Journalism and IT departments, but I don't think that will make it come across any better. We do still have a resume for you, and we'll call you if we have any openings.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Spriggan on April 01, 2005, 02:27:34 PM
I will never beleave someone who cannot spell "Want" correctly
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: n8sumsion on April 01, 2005, 02:36:10 PM
Ok, you guys had me going there for a while. Nice April Fools joke. I thought you were serious about this whole WotC thing for a while there. But getting rid of Spriggan... no way.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 01, 2005, 02:37:14 PM
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I will never beleave someone who cannot spell "Want" correctly

There's so many funny things about that quote I can't even start.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: MsFish on April 01, 2005, 02:47:03 PM
Wishful thinking.   ;D :P
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Fellfrosch on April 01, 2005, 02:51:04 PM
Greg is the other reason that Sprig got the boot: we only really need one atrocious speller, so Spriggan was redundant.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 01, 2005, 02:53:56 PM
/me laughs

/me then decides it's not good to laugh at your employer before you actually start work and shuts up.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on April 01, 2005, 02:56:19 PM
I wished I remembered it was that day today...I was actually feeling bad about the conflict.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Fellfrosch on April 01, 2005, 03:08:21 PM
We all feel bad about the conflict, but remembering that today is "Hooray we work for Wizards" day helps alleviate the pain.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 01, 2005, 03:38:29 PM
I don't feel bad knowing that not only will I be able to buy my new computer, I"ll be able to do it much sooner. And I'll be famous!
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on April 01, 2005, 04:47:35 PM
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You use your Hand Crossbow !
You hit Greg_Callahan for 290 damage!
Greg_Callahan has -180 hit points left.

You win the match point!

Greg_Callahan collapses, his hitpoints depleted to -180!
You are victorious!


If it makes you feel any better, Sprig, that shot was for you.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Mistress of Darkness on April 01, 2005, 04:53:42 PM
/me falls on the floor laughing

Good luck to y'all!  ::)
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 01, 2005, 05:14:03 PM
you killed my boss!
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: JP Dogberry on April 01, 2005, 08:24:55 PM
Oh well. I guess with Greg dead, we don't have a new job anymore.

It was fun while it lasted, anyway. I guess we're no longer part of Wizards, or getting paid. And I guess Spriggan can stay then.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Entsuropi on April 01, 2005, 08:32:37 PM
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And I guess Spriggan can stay then.


Good. The apocalypse needs all four riders.

To avoid confusion, I came up with this during a convo with fell.

Spriggan - War (c'mon! Don't make me explain that one)
JamPaladin - Famine (it doesn't fit so well but then it fits everyone else worse, and he is apparently really skinny...)
Gemm - Pestilence (haha! He spreads like a plague, lol)
Entropy - Death (yarr)
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on April 02, 2005, 03:13:15 AM
This is almost as good as the site that was "shut down" by a Manhattan Court order yesterday. Talk about your wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Tekiel on April 02, 2005, 11:36:16 AM
Bwahahahaha!  This was hilarious to read!  I really should have come online yesterday and checked it out.  Hehe, oh, and Sprig, welcome back.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on April 03, 2005, 12:07:06 AM
Ah That explains the Email I got from Wizards saying
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"All your base belong to us!"
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Fellfrosch on April 04, 2005, 12:06:08 PM
I'd like to report that this fooled Mustard for a minute, but fooled my Mom for a long, long time. She even called me to ask why I hadn't told her about my new job.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 04, 2005, 12:35:08 PM
that ROCKS. I love harmless pranks that go over really, really well.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: JP Dogberry on April 05, 2005, 03:14:48 AM
What we SHOULD have done is si ilar to what OCReMix did. They claimed to have merged with EA, and when everyone figured it out halfwya through the day, they admitted it but faked a cease and desist letter from EA.
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 05, 2005, 09:21:19 AM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: Buy Out
Post by: Fellfrosch on April 05, 2005, 12:05:35 PM
Yeah, I saw that. Very nice touch.