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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2004, 05:58:04 PM »
This whole the more technologically advanced you are argument cannot be used in this scenerio because we are not talking about normal ninja katana.  

SE clearly stated that the katana can block lightsabers, in an attempt to even the sides.  So it is obvious that the ninja katana count as lightsabers because the only thing that can block a lightsaber is something made out of the same energy.  

Also, while this argument might be good in sci-fi movies, we are, according to SE, talking about the good GI Joe ninja.  The ones from the comics.  And I can think of many circumstances where the more technological person didn't win in a comic book.  

So here we are applying a rule that cannot be applied, and therefor any argument for ninja based around this rule should be instantly disqualified.
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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2004, 07:05:14 PM »
42: Later dates do not mean, or even imply, superior technology.

Gorgon, you clearly do not understand how these arguments work.

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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2004, 07:17:18 PM »
I'm sorry I must have misunderstood something, what excactly was wrong with my argument?  So I don't do it again.
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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2004, 07:21:50 PM »
mostly it made sense.

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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2004, 07:22:45 PM »
Agreed!  Well put, SE.

Back to the argument at hand, I still maintain that magic swords are an exception to the underdevelopment rule, and maintain that lightsabers fit under this amnesty.  However, you make a very good point that most of the Jedi rely on a lot of other techno gizmos.  

Therefore, here's what I think will happen:  the Jedi start off confident, and mow through hoards of lesser ninjas (who haven't yet been figured into this equation--but they have to exist.  I mean, what's a good battle without hundreds of lesser minions to defeat?)

Then, however, they will start to rely too much on their gadgets, and the ninjas will take them out one at a time.  In the end, only one Jedi will be left (I vote Mace Windu), and he'll weaponless and beaten down.  He'll grow 'indignant' (Jedi don't get angry) over the deaths of his comrades, and pick up a discarded lightsaber he finds somewhere, then proceed to lay righteous smack down on the rest of the ninjas.  

Then he'll walk away looking cool, torn cloak flapping, bodies littering the ground around him.

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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2004, 07:25:17 PM »
Basically the Jedi win, by however little amount.
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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2004, 07:31:16 PM »
They'll win dramatically, which is the most important thing.

Jedi vs Ninjas?  I mean, come on--we're talking primarily about a battle of style here.  
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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2004, 07:32:30 PM »
It seems that Jedi won this battle, what else can we pit them up against?
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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2004, 07:33:03 PM »
that's a scenario I can get around.
OK, who kills who? Here's what I think.

sexy scarlett kills Anakin. Cuz that'd be funny.
Butch Scarlett kills Aayla and Orliss
darth Maul kills butch Scarlett and Jinx. Cuz he's like, the Dark Side, and can therefore kill women. Maybe Aayla can get in on this and kill Sexy scarlett, because she's sexy too. And well, that would make good cinema.
Storm Shadow kills Yoda, barely.
Snake Eyes kills Quigon.
I'm not sure I care who kills Night Creeper, Kamakura, Luke, or Darth Maul. Probably Sexy Scarlett kills the Maul, because y'know, she's sexy.

Final Battle is Mace v. Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow, because, like, you could get Jett Lee and Jackie Chan to play the ninjas. And that would rule.

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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2004, 07:35:43 PM »
All that's left is Mace Windu, and probably a bloodied one. Have him join the Justice League or something. Or maybe some Transformers.

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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2004, 07:39:37 PM »
Well, how bout we put the justice league up against the transformers and he joins the underdogs?
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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2004, 07:48:57 PM »
Just one final tweak, SE--Mace has to lay some MAJOR smack down for it to be dramatic enough.  So, I think he has to fight off at least five guys in the ending.  His 'final, final' battle can be against the two ninjas, but I say Mace takes out the entire group you listed as 'I don't know who kills these guys.'

Oh, and I say he kills Snake Eyes with a lightsaber AND a katana, which he snatches from the air right as he beheads Storm Shadow.  
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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2004, 08:02:22 PM »
well, I was thinknig storm shadow would be almost gone anyway. I mean, he just got Yoda, and that's a tough fight.

but I guess that just makes it easier to behead him.

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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2004, 05:26:22 PM »
ok, i'm altering the scenario.

I don't have any more Jedi, but I have 4 more ninjas.

I have a new Scarlett based off issue #2 of the original run of hte GI Joe comics. SHe's in a Karate Gi, and in sexiness, is somewhere in between sext scarlett and butch scarlett.

I also have another Snake Eyes based off the same comic.  So put another one of him in.

THen there's a new "Valor Vs. Venom" series Jinx. I'm impressed with this run, the figures are really cool. And this gives us another sexy ninja.

And there's a cobra guy. uh... Bill... or something. either that or "Slice." I prefer Bill. I He looks stupid and his card is dumb too.

Anyway, the ninja have a huge numerical superiority (Esp. if we add Elektra into the midst, who makes them an even dozen AND she's like, twice as tall, so could step on the Jedi). Does Mac still walk off? Or, since we have only two sexy Jedi, to the ninja win just for having so many sexy, sexy girl ninjas?

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Re: Jedi versus Ninja
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2004, 05:40:32 PM »
I think that because the ninja are going to lose, still, because we should even the sides back out and take away the magical katana power.  Now they have to flat out dodge every attacka a Jedi makes.

I think that a few of the ninja drop like flies in the beggining, and the smart, sexy, or ones with cool names like 'Bill' learn that they can't be hit and remain in the fight, so they dodge.  Then they start using their umbers on the jedi, Anikin craps his pants and drops into the fetal position, and starts mumbling about sand.

This gives the ninja a lightsaber, but they aren't fully trained with it, so the Jedi still have a bit of an advantage.  In the end it comes down to Mace, Obi-Wan, and Yoda vs four or five ninja.  Obi-Wan pulls a sacrificial move and charges in, clearing out two ninja and himself.  Yoda is distracted by the sexiness of the surviving sexy ninja, and is stabbed in the back.  Mace goes super jedi macho on the remaining ninja and comes out victorious, but with only one hand and four toes.
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