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General => Rants and Stuff => Topic started by: Miyabi on November 09, 2009, 06:58:42 AM
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Is it just me or is it extremely annoying when people seem extremely in need of enforcing the stereotype of a group they belong to.
Examples:
Someone who shortly after coming out of the closet becomes that extremely bubbly "oh-mygaaawwwwwwwwssssh I totally love your haieeeeerrrr" type of gay guy. Like they go out of their way to make gay comments or sound/act extremely gay.
The black person who dresses in absolutely obnoxious clothing and talks with a fake accent and acts like . . . . I dunno, just what you maybe expect to see in an older movie where they were making fun of black people.
The white person who feels the need to dress and act like a cowboy even though they grew up in the city.
I mean I'm not talking about the person that grew up in the way they are acting or the person who just is that way because slowly it just happened.
I'm talking about the people who fake it. Like I remember my one friend, she was black and one year she acted just like any other person who had grown up in the same area we did. Then after the summer she was that super stereo typical black person.
I just don't understand why people do those things. I think it's annoying, because it's things like this that keep stereotypes floating around and gives them validity.
Anyone else have opinions on this topic?
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well, at least you cant fake nerd.....
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Oh yes you can, and I've seen people trying to do it. Some of them it's very obvious what they're doing. Others however are very good at it. Either way, usually their reasons aren't too kind for the person they're targeting.
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I grew up in the city and i where polished boots (3+ times a week gennerally b/c they are black and fit the uniform code) to work and own a straw hat for summer and a felt hat for fall and winter. I have a mild west texan accent though i've always lived in the Dallas area (north texas) and the vocabulary i use is larger than any hick's/ redneck's. So if it's honest to god you i have no problem with it. However, less than 1% of them have that personality and they behave that way because they wish to be accepted or some other pathetic reason. Weak willed people disturb & disgust me.
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See Kaz, you lived that way though so it makes SENSE you have the accent and whatnot.
Now, imagine someone who grew up in Boston came down there and talked and acted extremely like they were those super Texas accented people who wore giant belt buckles and boots and 501's all the time. Wouldn't that annoy you?
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What I meant was, you cant fake it to fit in, you can fake it to make fun of someone, sure.
what about those of us who have lived all over?
I actually find myself slipping into the accent of whoever I am talking to. I live in the "Boston" area, so sometimes take on a Bostonian accent. I also spent alot of time in Eastern Pennsylvania - coal mining country and am able to easily slip into a "drawl" without a problem. I also lived in New York City, and can do fast-talk and Brooklyn with the best of them.
none of those accents is fake, they are all mine.
I do not however, wear a clock around my neck when I visit the city, nor a Stetson hat when visiting the country.
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See Kaz, you lived that way though so it makes SENSE you have the accent and whatnot.
Now, imagine someone who grew up in Boston came down there and talked and acted extremely like they were those super Texas accented people who wore giant belt buckles and boots and 501's all the time. Wouldn't that annoy you?
Maybe they feel like assimilating?
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Fake accents suck!
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What I meant was, you cant fake it to fit in, you can fake it to make fun of someone, sure.
what about those of us who have lived all over?
I actually find myself slipping into the accent of whoever I am talking to. I live in the "Boston" area, so sometimes take on a Bostonian accent. I also spent alot of time in Eastern Pennsylvania - coal mining country and am able to easily slip into a "drawl" without a problem. I also lived in New York City, and can do fast-talk and Brooklyn with the best of them.
none of those accents is fake, they are all mine.
I do not however, wear a clock around my neck when I visit the city, nor a Stetson hat when visiting the country.
Yeah, I do that. Worse, my accent slips when I'm not paying attention..
"Are you Australian? New Zealand? South Africa....?" Increasingly desperate guesses follow.
"No, no, I'm english, actually. see, I just used the word actually in natural conversation - what more proof do you want?" ;D
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Hell I'm the grandson of a women who grew up on a tenet farm, & I use actually fairly frequently.
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I think "actually" is used frequently in the US.
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I don't think I use it very often. I think I say "really" a lot more. Or "For really".
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I think every other word out of my son's mouth is "actually"
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Brandon uses it all the time in his annotations, but I've edited a lot of them out.
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I use actually way too much.
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I think we have now firmly established that Brits have no exclusive rights to the word actually, and Americans actually use actually several times throughout the day.
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Actually I try to reinforce stereotypes that apply to me as often as possible. :P I love Stereo. Mono was kind of sad.
On a serious note, IRL I am a mix racially, philosophically and politically. I do tend to project certain stereotypes because I continually meet people who decide, based on appearances, that I don't belong to one or another group. It's a knee jerk reaction, an means of amusing myself at their expense.
For example, I have an ethnic and spiritual heritage (one of several) that has a very pronounced identity. I met someone in another venue, who I share this heritage with, but who is very different from me in other areas. Now I see that as an opportunity for healthy debate and interesting conversation.
Now here's the irony, this person no longer practices the spiritual heritage and I am an avid student, yet this person speaks in a very condescending way trying to "educate" me. My natural reaction is to be frivolous and to act as clueless as this person expects. I feel compelled to reinforce the stereotype he has applied to me.
The Truthiness of stereotypes is a pretty comfortable playground.
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<shrug> I don't really pay a lot of attention to stereotypes, or the way other people act. Let them be whatever the want, IMO, so long as they aren't trying to hurt me or people I love.
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The Truthiness of stereotypes is a pretty comfortable playground.
WIN!
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I last person I met who made racist comments was a guy from India. He made some generic comments about black people that you might see on TV. He just got off the boat as they say so I think he watched too much TV. I yelled at him and told him you can't talk like that in the US. I think I scared him enough to shut him up. Makes me wonder what American stuff is on TV in India.
I worked with another guy from India who asked a guy from Thailand if it was true that Thai people eat their babies. He read it somewhere. Note this guy was in an arranged marriage. I asked him how got along with his wife and all he could say is "we have a child together". So I guess that is what mattered to him.
I work in IT in the DC area. So there are people here from all over the world.
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Everybody is a racist.... most whites avoid the subject like the plague which proves our bias. (I'm being adopted soon so I'll be Hispanic... I don't have to prove it, the government has to disprove it and my mom will show up as Hispanic so it's all good!) Some are just worst than others
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I'm racist against individuals who have proven to me that they deserve to be prejudiced against.
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I'm racist against individuals who have proven to me that they deserve to be prejudiced against.
Translation -
Miyabi: I'm racist/prejudice against everyone and everything. Automatically. Forever. >:(
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*rolls eyes*
No, only against individuals that deserve it haha.
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*rolls eyes*
No, only against individuals that deserve it haha.
Translation -
Miyabi: Eero is always right. Listen to everything he says, as it is all true. He is also totally awesome.
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Translation-
Eero: Where am I and what am I doing here? Also, when are the auditions for Ringmaster? I look good in a cape.
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Translation-
Eero: Where am I and what am I doing here? Also, when are the auditions for Ringmaster? I look good in a cape.
Well, I certainly DO look good in a cape.
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Translation-
Eero: Where am I and what am I doing here? Also, when are the auditions for Ringmaster? I look good in a cape.
And a top hat.
Well, I certainly DO look good in a cape.
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Translation-
Eero: Where am I and what am I doing here? Also, when are the auditions for Ringmaster? I look good in a cape.
And a top hat.
Well, I certainly DO look good in a cape.
Sneaky, miyabi, sneaky. However, you left your prints all over your slanderous tampering with the evidence.
(though, i do look a rather dapper fellow in a top hat as well.)
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Translation-
Eero: Where am I and what am I doing here? Also, when are the auditions for Ringmaster? I look good in a cape.
And a top hat.
Well, I certainly DO look good in a cape.
Sneaky, miyabi, sneaky. However, you left your prints all over your slanderous tampering with the evidence.
(though, i do look a rather dapper fellow in a top hat as well.)
Haha. I failed to scroll down far enough. xD