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Title: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Spriggan on September 14, 2004, 09:39:13 PM
My review this week is going to be for the SW minature game, was playing today at gameden with JT and some others.  I was incredably surprised on how easy, simple and fast it is.  Tag line for the review is going to be: "Star Wars minatures are not only fun and simple but manage to have the feel of the movies as well."
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on September 17, 2004, 04:02:29 PM
I submitted a star wars mini article already...
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 17, 2004, 11:15:24 PM
check your work email, Jeffe. Should ahve something from me.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 21, 2004, 04:23:11 AM
I got some of these in the mail (hooray for Wizards!) and they're great. The game is a highly streamlined version of WotC's nasty D&D minis game, which is a streamlined version of the d20 RPG. D&D was still too complex to bother with, and SW still has needlessly complex line of sight rules, but the cuts and tweaks to the game make it fast and fun and very easy to understand. I'm not in love with the idea of Very Rare characters, since it makes some of the key figures ridiculously hard to get, but I was impressed by the spread of commons, and the idea of multiple sculpts especially--unlike D&D, which made it very hard to collect bad guys in any great number (for use in the RPG), SW is brimming with Stormtroopers, and even with only a starter and a couple of boosters I have plenty of Stormtroopers to sate my needs. The very nature of the game, and of Stormtroopers, means that despite this commonness you're never sorry to pull another one (unlike other collectible minis games, which drive you to madness when you pull your twentieth stupid nobody from a booster pack).
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Spriggan on September 21, 2004, 04:34:18 AM
The LOS rules aren't realy that cumbersom, try actualy playing the game.  They're about the same as Heroclix but instead of mesureing from the center if the base you measure from any corner of your choice.

The only thing that I don't realy like is you, unless your han solo, can only shoot the closest person with cover to you if you want to attack someone with cover.

Also I've got a spare Emperor, and C-3PO.  The Emperor is way powerful since he can regen forcepoints and let others spend his.   Him and the Vader from the starterset is a very tough combo to beat.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 21, 2004, 10:34:42 AM
reference: http://www.timewastersguide.com/view.php?id=850

so the review is up. finally.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 21, 2004, 03:25:36 PM
My rares so far are Han, Chewie, Lando and Mara Jade (plus the two from the starter). I'd like to collect more Bespin Guards (I only have one) just because they go well with Lando.

And I have played the game, and I still find the LOS rules silly. Why bother counting all those corners and drawing all those lines? Mustard and I just eyeballed it, but then again we've been playing minis games for years, and this game is aimed more at neophytes than veterans.

One thing you didn't mention in your review, which I thought was crazy, is that every figure in the game, by default, is considered to have a gun with unlimited range. It works really well, and it makes the game easier, and I'm really glad they did it, but wow! It takes a lot of nerve, I think, to go against decades of tabletop convention and just throw out the concept of range. And it takes a lot of cleverness to keep such a game balanced (though the crowded map helps a lot).
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: House of Mustard on September 21, 2004, 04:24:01 PM
I love the lack of range.  Considering the small size of the maps, adding any range modifiers would just be complicated for the sake of it.  Even in larger scale games like 40k, the range system is pretty silly.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Spriggan on September 22, 2004, 02:15:00 AM
good point, I think I'll be adding that.

I've got a Lando too and several Bespin gaurds.  Both Han and Chewie are realy nice Figs.  I get paid this friday and am going to by 2-3 more boosters in my vain attempt to get Baba Fett.

Also I want a Greedo,  I must have all the bounty hunters to go with my Jabba.

I'll trade you bespin gaurds for ewoks, 1for1, I want to make an Ewok swarm army. :)
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Dex1138 on September 22, 2004, 11:51:46 AM
Actually, there a few figures that have the Melee ability which means they can only attack in melee range ;)
The twi'lek stripp...ah, bodyguard and the Imperial guards have it.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 22, 2004, 09:27:40 PM
That's why I said (or intended to say) that the "default" is to have a gun. It's really very backwards of most tabletop games to call out the fact that a figure can't shoot, rather than the fact that it can.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Mr_Pleasington on September 23, 2004, 04:16:11 AM
Okay, all of you stop talking about this game like its good.

Just say it sucks.

Because I really can't support another game right now and you're making it actually sound fun.

So stop it.

Seriously.

:P
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: House of Mustard on September 23, 2004, 11:08:44 AM
Personally, I hated the game, Dr. P.

I abhor games with well-sculpted AND well-painted models; that accurately capture the feel of one of the best licenses in history; that have simple yet fun rules.  Honestly, they make me violently ill.

But, then again, if that's your kind of thing... go for it.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on September 23, 2004, 04:51:51 PM
Lucky for HomSar the internet can't convey images of whether or not he kept a straight face typing that.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 23, 2004, 09:37:25 PM
Mustard hasn't had a straight face since the "accident" in '87. I hear he does keep one, though, in a jar.

By the way, Sprig, I have four ewoks that I will gladly trade for Bespin Guards.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Spriggan on September 27, 2004, 08:24:05 AM
Ok, I'm getting fedup with these minnis.  Last firday I went out and bought 6 more boosters and what do I get?  A lando, C-3P0, slave Leigha, Bossack which I allready had, plus a scout on a speeder and stormtrooper on a Dewback.

So here's what I got repeat wise.

2 Emperors (Very rare, ie 1 in every 3 cases of boosters)
2 Slave Leighas (very rare)
2 Landos (rare)
3 Bossacks (rare)
3 C-3POs (rare)

And in all those boosters no Ewoks even (a common)!  I'm sad I didn't get a Greedo or Fett, but I'm not going to spend anymore on these figures.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 27, 2004, 03:21:51 PM
I've got five ewoks for you. I'll trade one each for those five figs you just listed :)
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Spriggan on September 28, 2004, 09:11:39 AM
Well you're welcome to a C-3PO, maybe I'll send my 3rd one to Mr. P just to  taunt him, and I'll trade for the bossack (he's acutaly a decent figure).  How you want to do this then?
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Mr_Pleasington on September 28, 2004, 09:22:30 AM
I am untauntable.

I have satiated my urge of buying something I don't need...by buying something I need even less!

HA! Take that!
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 28, 2004, 09:30:29 AM
wow, you sure showed us. So what'd you get?
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Spriggan on September 28, 2004, 09:38:08 AM
An autographed lithograph of Gemm?
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Entsuropi on September 28, 2004, 09:55:34 AM
A supplement for the dearly departed WHFRP?
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 28, 2004, 09:58:17 AM
A 12 volume set of the Wisest sayings of TWG newbies?
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on September 28, 2004, 11:13:54 AM
I'd be more than happy to sign a lithograph of myself for Dr. P. He's my favorite one.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 28, 2004, 03:30:20 PM
I think he bought a Special Edition Star Wars DVD from 1997--no one needs those anymore, neither purists nor reformists.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 28, 2004, 03:33:51 PM
...

there are FACTIONS of Star Wars fans then?
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 28, 2004, 03:36:53 PM
Oh, certainly, and plenty of subfactions within them. I wouldn't be surprised, actually, if a splinter group broke off and proclaimed the '97 Special Editions to be the True version of the movie. Mark my words: one hundred years from now the great Star Wars jihad will be a plague upon the earth, as the purists battle the reformists for domination, and both sides work together to wipe the Christmas Specialists from the Earth.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 28, 2004, 03:42:17 PM
I don't think there are ANY Christmas Specialists alive.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 28, 2004, 03:56:50 PM
Well, not yet, but a subgroup of Star Wars fundamentalists will eventually decide that all original material created by Lucas is considered canonical (this following the Timothy Zahn battles of 2042), thus creating a huge rift in the purist movement that all but destroys it. Many lose faith and flee to the Reformists, while others retreat entirely to the underground Trekkie conclaves. Only the subsequent heresy of the ultra-reformists, who say that the spirit of Lucas speaks to them and that no Star Wars can be considered True unless it is changed weekly, serves to rebalance the power base and save the reformists from utter annihilation.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 28, 2004, 04:33:42 PM
... you frighten me man. You truly do. You and your apocalyptic star wars future.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on September 28, 2004, 05:10:10 PM
Meanwhile the Cult of the Moon of Endor, a sect which accepts the Ewok specials as doctrine, is secretly growing its power base in the off-world colonies by recruiting expatriate Christmas Specialists.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 28, 2004, 05:11:39 PM
ok, i take it back. Fell no longer frightens me in the face of the terror you represent, Kije.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Mr_Pleasington on September 29, 2004, 05:00:24 AM
I actually bought the to-scale WOTC Death Star Replica.  I have no idea how I'm going to get it back home, though.

Your Ewok cult is about to be space dust, man.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 29, 2004, 09:35:46 AM
as your carry-on.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Mr_Pleasington on September 30, 2004, 05:30:26 AM
Well, Qantas does have lots of overhead room...

hmmmm...
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Mr_Pleasington on November 29, 2004, 11:20:31 PM
Sigh. Once you start down the dark path...

I found a good deal on ebay and got a good solid start to my collection for cheap.  After playing Star Wars: Battlefront I was just in the mood.

My plan is to collect a bunch of ST and Rebel soldiers and stat out armies with Savage Worlds for some larger scale destruction.  Should be fun.

I'll take that C-3PO anytime, Sprig :)
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Spriggan on November 30, 2004, 03:13:42 AM
NP, e-mail me your address.  I've got 3 of them.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Fellfrosch on November 30, 2004, 02:59:10 PM
First Magic, then Warcraft, now Star Wars--I'm beginning to suspect that you spend more on games than you do on student loans, Dr. P, and that's saying a lot.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Mr_Pleasington on November 30, 2004, 09:04:01 PM
I'm a game-a-holic.   I'm notorious for getting really interested in a game and then immediately getting interested in something else.  A lot of times I'm looking for a new game but just don't know what I want...so I sample a lot (much to my wallet's grief).  I was in and out of Magic within two weeks, I'm still not sure about Warcraft though.

I actually don't spend that much on gaming though.  I usually sell off some stuff I don't use and buy new stuff.  So I spend very little net money.

Right now, I'm not collecting/playing anything.  My Warmachine stuff is just sitting here and I'll probably sell it soon.  The only gaming interest on the agenda is roleplaying.  

So I'm going to start a new minis game, Star Wars.  To replace Warmachine.  I also slowly buy D&D minis.  I can use them for RPG or use Savage Worlds for mini game fun.

All that said, there are a few things I stick with... Deadlands, Savage Worlds, Buffy/Angel, and some form of mini gaming.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on November 30, 2004, 10:43:37 PM
If your selling Im buying,... especially if painted....
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Mr_Pleasington on November 30, 2004, 11:24:52 PM
Not painted but the majority is assembled and a good portion is primed.

Got a small Cygnar army...all jacks.

Got a big Cryx army.  I'll quote you a price if you like.
Title: Re: Star Wars minnies
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on November 30, 2004, 11:43:34 PM
sure, send it to my email.