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I would like to post official notice that I will only be visiting a few select threads until I get my copy of MB3. So if I randomly stop replying, that's why.

I would also like to post official notice that I hate anyone who already has MB3. For the time being.

I would also like to point out that there are 3 days left. I'm trying very hard to not press the caps-lock key and express my excitement very loudly. I hope you are all proud of my self-discipline.

/nod.  I think this is the last time I am visiting the forums until I'm done with MB3.  I'm finishing WoA again tonight.

I agree with you on which Reen voices are important.  The ones you didn't select area all lessons that Reen tought to Vin that she is remembering, these are what she thinks Reen would say to her now, or what the voice of Reen is saying to her now.  Laid out like that the difference is quit obvious.
The voice seems stronger after she meets Kelsier, is this important?
The Chapter 30 one felt so real that she could feel him beside her.
I also find the mistrust thing interesting.

Or perhaps the voices were part of Ruin's little charade.  I don't necessarily believe this, by the way--I do think it's a def. possibility though.

I don't think they will be moot. The next new book is a ways off and we'll need the humor to tide us over. Plus, it may prove useful to Brandon, knowing what things threw us off, which ones were easy to figure out, etc. so that his next series of books are that much better.

Agreed.  Not much else to say. 

What if, with Ruin making more inquisitors, Preservation is trying to make more Mistborn? Those too old can't take the strain required to Snap and die, those untouched don't have the blood in them, and those who are attacked but then released have Snapped, but like Vin, they're not aware of it because they don't know anything about Allomancy. Vin had to have Kelsier tell her she was Mistborn, otherwise she never would have considered the idea.

Holy lord.  That would be crazy and it's an interesting theory.  I wonder, is there any place in those chapters with Sazed that this could be foreshadowed a bit?  I actually started WoA again the other day and I'm right at that part.  So, when I go through reading it tonight, I'll make sure to keep an eye on that.  That's the thing with Mistborn, if you hadn't ingested metals, you would never know.  I know you take in a little bit through water/food/dirt(:p) and such but...it's obvious that Vin just thought her 'luck' was coincidence. 

The one thing I don't like about this theory is the plausibility.  It takes a while to train a Mistborn (or a Misting for that matter).  We only have this one book; I highly doubt Vin and the gang would have the time to spare to train new Mistborn/Mistings besides Elend, who seems somewhat proficient at this point anyways.  I would make a comparison to The Wheel of Time to further explain this, but I don't feel like spoiling anything for anyone.

As for topics, pass.   

Now we see why the Inquisitors took the Terris Keepers.  That Inquisitor used a combination of Pewter and Feruchemical speed.  Obviously, he didn't have a lot stored, or he would probably have stayed super fast long enough to ram the spike into Elend.  This also lays credence that Hemalurgy gives abilities of the one sacrificed.  This is how they got their Allomancy, and now they are getting Feruchemy as well.  The Inq's aren't playing around now, that's for sure.  Theory time:  Why would the Inq want to ram a spike into Elend instead of just killing him another way?  Me thinks he was trying to impale him with a spike that would allow Ruin to take over his mind.  Yet another thing to worry about. 

I don't think Elend being stronger than Vin makes her less of a character.  Raw strength isn't everything.  I bet she still whoops him when they spar.

Wow, that is an interesting theory.  They, like you said, could also get stronger the more people they sacrifice...that's actually really freaking frightening.  "Hemalurgy was a messy art."

When Vin ripped off its robe and the steel plate was covering the spike, I literally had chills ripping my body into pieces.  I could see that smirk that was on the inquisitors face. 

-raises hand-

I totally called Elend being stronger than Vin!

Allomantically, sure.  Skills, not really.  Also, you have to remember that Vin is able to pull in the mists, and it's also possible that she's got Hemalurgy.  He did seem so lord ruler-ey ( that's right, I went there) with his powers.  Him and Vin are def. gonna make one crazy baby. 

Wow, having just read the third chapter of HoA, I think I'd rather just bring that whole chapter and say, "So, uh, this really doesn't fit the assignment, but, dang, you've gotta read this!"

Lol, the second I read the description of the Koloss, I thought of this thread.  SO COOL!

I agree somewhat with those who consider the Well to be the Metal Lake.  If not:

There's supposed to be two.  Alendi/Rashek.  Vin/Elend (though I suspect it was supposed to be Vin/Sazed).   The "Hero" and the... well... opposite.  One to take the power, one to suffer a massive wound so the person taking the power would use it rather than release it.

'Gods' on earth.  Ruin/Preservation as embodied by those who take the power.  "The Hero of Ages"?   His initial title was 'the final hero'?  What massive havoc that would cause.  What epic 'end of the world' showdown between the two ultimates?

*shrug*  So... again... someone did wrong.  Last time Rashek killed his opposite and this time Vin let the power go.

Let's wait a thousand years for the well to refill to find out what happens in the next epic chapter!

I kid. 

That's an interesting theory on two heroes, Neina.  Very interesting indeed.  Again, there's also the question if either Alendi or Rashek were the real heroes, but they just failed.

Quote from: Wielder on September 27, 2008, 10:24:46 PM

Quote from: elmandr1 on September 27, 2008, 09:51:58 PM

hey, in Allomancy, which metal is opposite of Steel? I think that could be the type of metal used as the spikes.

Iron.  But now I'm confused.

I have my reasons for believing it isn't steel, one is that Kwaan states that nothing can be trusted but steel--Unless Kwaan Betrays Alendi for other reasons untold to us--then that would make that statement questionable, and thus everything we think we know about the prophecy is yet again tossed out the window--so we can only assume that everything we know to be true.

So Steel = Trust, and Ruin resistent (lol)

So How could the Steel Inquistors be controlled by Ruin? Contradicting isn't it...?

We can only assume that the term steel for a steel inquistor must be a product of arrogance--in the same sense that native americans are called Indians...

So if it isn't steel, what is it?

My guess would be iron--opposite of Steel. (thank you Wielder, as i was to lazy to look for myself.)

Then again, The spikes could be Steel, but the plates covering them, they could be iron.

Either way, based on what books one and two have revealed, Steel can't be the means by which Ruin takes hold of the Inquistors.

Hum, that never really crossed my mind.  I do wonder though, if we are taking Kwaan's words too literally.  Perhaps he didn't mean steel--just metal in general.  But that is an interesting idea.  I say we start stabbing characters with iron spikes to find out.  Come on!  Lets go!

Does anybody else here feel weird about helping Dangerbutton "cheat"? Whether he's cheating intentionally or not, we are doing his homework for him when we give him the passages and tell him how it is characterization. I'm not accusing anyone of helping him/her cheat intentionally; I'm just surprised that people actually responded to this.

I would not consider this cheating at all.  Hes going to use his own words to describe any of the passages I pointed out anyways.  Have you ever bought a pre-owned book at the university and all the most important passages were already highlighted for you?  I'm essentially tossing him my copy of Mistborn so he can read through it.  The things I wrote explaining why I think the passage can be considered characterization was more more two other posters, not for Danger (though, you are welcome to read through them if you are confused, Danger).

Correct me if I'm wrong.