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Departments => Movies and TV => Topic started by: Chimera on October 27, 2005, 04:12:41 AM
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I have to say I am getting very excited for this movie. I can't believe it will be released in less than a month--on November 18! It certainly has snuck up on me.
This article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051026/ap_on_en_mo/film_harry_potter_7) makes me curious to see how they cut the story to make it more of "a thriller" and driving toward the final encounter in the graveyard, as the director said. I also think it is interesting that this is the first Harry Potter movie to be rated PG-13, though it is true that this is where people start dying.
As a side note--can anyone find a larger trailer than the one they have at the official site (http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com)?
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try http://www.apple.com/trailers/
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i know what you mean. I am looking forward to it also. I haven't read the books, and probably never will. But I know what happens in the books from what my roommates tell me.
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It's snuck up on me, too. I didn't actually even know the release date till you just said it--just that it was coming up soon.
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Thanks for the trailer, Sprig. It had great clarity. I could even see the freckles on Hermione's face (though that was also a little weird).
But the special effects look great--like the scene with the dragon. And the Yule Ball looks like fun too. I'm excited! ;D
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Ron seriously needs a haircut.
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Many said the same of me when I was in high school.
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My mom still says that about me all the time. =þ
In fact, Ari says it sometimes, too. 'swhy I got her a haircutting kit. =]
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Ask, Jeffe, I had funky hair. Now I pretty much shave it all off every couple months. Less maintenance that way.
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You know, if I hadn't read the book already, I'd hate the 2nd trailer. It's got plenty enough spoilers, à mon avis.
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True enough, but honestly--who hasn't read the book yet?
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I hadn't like 2 months ago.
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Ron seriously needs a haircut.
I am so with you on that. Though I'll still love him, even if he looks like a homeless mongrel.
Harry's looking a little shaggy, too. But they keep prettying Hermione up. It was really only in the first movie that she had the frizzy hair of the book.
Ah, well. That's Hollywood for you. But you'd think if they were going to doll up the girl they would get the boys some decent hair cuts.
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Actually, considering how pig-headed Harry is going to act in the next movie, that look works for him. Maybe after he starts becoming responsible he'll give himself and Ron a haircut.
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If you haven't already bought your tickets for opening day, good luck. They've sold out in all the local Provo/Orem theaters for Friday and most of Saturday.
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Really? I didn't even think about buying tickets in advance. Do you do that online?
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Fandango is your friend.
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Is anyone else bugged by the way Dumbledore pronounces "Beauxbatons?"
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Yes.
My family are die-hard fans of the audio versions read by Jim Dale. So, for better or worse, I pronounce everything in the books the way Jim Dale does.
But at least he has a British accent.
Although Beauxbatons is supposedly French, and Jim Dale uses a softer pronounciation that seems French to me. He pronounces "batons" like the object that you would twirl--a baton.
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As a theoretical francophone, it bothers me when people massacre French, in any context.
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good thing i haven't heard it. i hate when people butcher french. des moines is the worst! "of the monks" is what it means. you wouldn't expect it having seen or been there.
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French is a language meant to be butchered, especially by drunk Scotts.
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Hear hear!
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I think I would find it quite entertaining to hear a drunken Scot attempting to speak French.
Or is Scott someone's name, and are we really talking about drunk Scotts?
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making fun of Sprig's spelling has actually become somewhat passe. Or at least boring.
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And making fun of the French hasn't?
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Making fun of the French *never* gets old.
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Well, here's a new reason to make fun of the French, for those of you calloused enough not to care:
Violent riots have been raging throughout France for the past two weeks. Nearly 6000 vehicles have been burned, and there have been about 120 police and firefighter injuries. Last night, Chirac declared that France was in a state of emergency.
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I've heard about that, and have been wondering, because none of the radio news seems to know why people are rioting, just something blurry to do with North African immigrants or something?
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because they're french. They are above your logic and "reasons"
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It started from a misunderstanding about the death of two teenage immigrants, but apparently, it's been kept going due to decades of pent-up problems and unrest.
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Actually that's not a very good reason to make fun of the French, because there's real damage being done over there. Besides, it's not the French rioting, as Fell pointed out, it's immigrants. But the damage is being done to French people, and despite my light-hearted disdain of them, they don't really deserve to have their homes, cars, and businesses torched.
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if you really want to go into it...
don't take this as advocating the French should actually be damaged this way, because I don't. I just want to look at hte flip side of hte coin:
It's the French and their blatant, and often hostile, disdain for anyone not natural-born French that caused that tension. They have always been very extreme in their anti-immigration stance (speaking generally, and not specifically), even when they were happily colonizing half of northern Africa. Why the immigrants want to move there, I don't know, but the French people were not innocent in the creation of the environment where this takes place.
What's sad is that the end result will be even more distrust and dislike for foreigners and a probable crackdown on immigration and immigrants.
But it's not my place.
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It is simply best to say that France has a lot of problems, like everyone else, despite their best efforts to ignore and cover-up anything that makes them look bad.
My experiences in Europe is that there has been some long running tension between "native" Europeans and immigrants. In some european coutries there are actually more immigrants than natives. Particularly since Europeans have been depopulating themselves for decades.
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Feelings about Muslims (Arabs, especially, but also Africans) in France are something akin to feelings about Mexicans in the border states in America. Le Front National, one of the most powerful parties in France, virtually has racism on its platform ("La France pour les français!")
In addition, French secularisation laws have alienated many French Muslims - for example, women are not allowed to wear head coverings in school because it is considered "religious clothing", which is disallowed in French public institutions.
However, the French are still our brothers, and we should keep them in our prayers - many of them, I'm sure, are very good people at heart.
Here's a link to an article on the matter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_civil_unrest_in_France
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Back on topic:
Ari and I are seeing HP4 in an IMAX theatre Friday Afternoon. We got our tickets tonight. We decided the 3:15 showing went better with our schedule (ie, show up early and go out to dinner sometime before or after), though we could have done 6:50 (only 3 tickets left). We're planning on going to the theatre at about noon and doing homework, etc., and then going out to dinner after the film.
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I want to see it!
Unfortunately I'm broke. Maybe I'll go see it over Christmas when I'm at home.
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Same here, MsFish. But I might have some extra money because I won't be going home for Christmas. But I might try and go down for my friend's wedding in San Diego instead, if gas is cheap enough. I have that whole week off between Christmas and New Year's, so I need to do something fun! Either that or I should sequester myself and write while I have the time to concentrate on one thing.
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what the?! this whole page is not about the movie it seems. so weird.
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It happens a lot here.
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Same here, MsFish. But I might have some extra money because I won't be going home for Christmas. But I might try and go down for my friend's wedding in San Diego instead, if gas is cheap enough. I have that whole week off between Christmas and New Year's, so I need to do something fun!
You can visit me in Valencia on the way and we can go to Magic Mountain. ;D
I don't know how you feel about theme parks, though. And it definitely wouldn't be saving money.
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Well, we can't really afford it, but we're going anyway - movie theatres here in Montreal are very expensive, and there's no matinée.
On the up side, seeing Harry Potter in an IMAX should be pretty cool.
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can't wait for it. The actor who plays harry potter was on martha stewarts talk show today. I don't watch that show or anything, just flipping channels and saw him so stopped for a few minutes. He was talking about his underwater work he was doing on the movie. He does all his own stunts! hehe, just thought that was funny.
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Sure you don't. We can smell lies, you know. They smell like...victory.
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I'm not surprised that they have Daniel Radcliff performing is own stunts. He is a child actor after all, and those aren't too expensive to replace. :D
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Problem is a lot of actors feel the need to do their own stunts to maintain their credibility, and they just don't do them as well as the chaps who trained professionally to do it.
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the stunts aren't that hard i believe. i mean they don't actually play quidiche
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Quidiche? That must be the Beauxbatons term for it. . .
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I'm not surprised that they have Daniel Radcliff performing is own stunts. He is a child actor after all, and those aren't too expensive to replace. :D
Shame on you! Daniel Radcliffe is turning into a major hottie. Well, a major nerd hottie (says the thirteen year old side of me that never grew up). ;)
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I'm really glad I don't have to put up with this kind of comment from Ari. =þ
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She might not be saying it on the outside, but you know that she is thinking it on the inside. ;) J/k. I'm sure she has eyes only for you.
I don't know why I've always found Daniel Radcliffe cute. Not like I want to date him. But like he is just, well, cute. It's like a stage crush. I have them all the time.
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talking about hotties, i think hermione is pretty cute. If i was only younger, doh!
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On iTunes I just saw that they are using a different music composer for the movie soundtrack--Patrick Doyle instead of John Williams. I really liked John Williams's scores for the last 3 HP movies--it will be interesting to see how the new composer/soundtrack affects the feeling of the film. Patrick Doyle did the soundtrack for Sense and Sensibility apparently.
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Well, them's no small potatoes, that's for sure. I love the S&S soundtrack--but it is a very different mood than Harry Potter. We'll see.
My good news is that I have found like-minded individuals to go to opening night with me. Funny how you find it in the most unlikely places. Given my experience in my last ward, I hadn't expected to find people who are interested in fantasy, or who would even go to a movie with me. I've decided that I should make myself afford the ticket price, just because of that.
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see, I found most of the HP score to be some of Williams' most drab work.
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I didn't know they'd gone with a different composer this time around. I love S&S, too, but I agree w/ Stacer that it's got a different mood to it.
Really, I don't remember being really in love with all the music from HP by Williams. I mean, some of it just wasn't that memorable. My bro downloaded a bunch from Limewire and I only selected a few theme tracks because that's all I really liked.
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I'm not really a big Williams fan to begin with. His music is too "soundtracky". I prefer soundtracks that are more musical, like Braveheart, Lord of the Rings, The Rock, etc.
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That's funny, I actually find James Horner to be far more soundtracky than Williams.
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the ones you named are pretty soundtracky to me. especially lord of the rings. But oh well.
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Yay! Tage and Earl (I don't think Earl has a TWG name. At least, I've never seen him on here) had an extra ticket for HP 4 on Friday night, so I get to go!!!
I am super-excited about going opening night. I didn't think it would happen at this point, but it did. All my dreams are coming true! (Yes, I am easy to please. ;))
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I like Williams *because* he's soundtracky. I know, that makes me a freak, but still.
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I am super-excited about going opening night. I didn't think it would happen at this point, but it did. All my dreams are coming true! (Yes, I am easy to please. ;))
Me, too! I mean, I've also got a ticket for HP IV on Friday. We're going to see it in Loews Theater in downtown Boston. :D It's my favorite theater out here so far. Plus, before the flick, some friends and I are going to PF Chang's for dinner. Mmmm.
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Loews is definitely the nicest theatre, though the Fenway AMC has cheaper tickets, especially for students. But being at Emerson, you probably don't make it down to the Fenway very often.
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Yeah, it's a little far out of my way. I've met some other WLP (Writing, Lit, and Publishing) people up at a Coldstone in Fenway, but other than that (and one time walking around Fenway Park itself), I haven't gotten up there much. Oh, that reminds me of "Fever Pitch," this movie my roomie rented mainly because it's a love story wrapped in a homage to the Red Sox. I kinda liked it, actually, in spite of Drew Barrymore. I dunno, she kind of annoys me usually (though I liked her in "Ever After"). The story and characters kept my interest and the humor kept me amused. Not a bad flick after all.
I just hope HP 4 is more spectacular than the rumors are making it out to be...
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I *really* liked Fever Pitch. I thought it was a fun romantic comedy about compromising to make a relationship work. 'Course, I don't hate Drew Barrymore like everyone else seems to.
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The only thing I can honestly say I *hated* Drew Barrymore in was Saturday Morning Cartoon's Greatest Hits, the one hour special that ran on Cartoon Network with videos for most of the songs on the CD. She did little skits in between, pretending she and her friends had just woken up and were watching them as cartoons
Her comments were largely dumb, but it's fun to see some of the artists in the videos.
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I love Fever Pitch specifically because it is set in Back Bay, where I used to work, and the Fenway, where I went to school. It's filmed on location, and I can see the places I used to walk, and hang out. I love, love, love, love, love Boston. I miss, miss, miss Boston. I really feel like that's the place I'll end up (if I can control that).
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I'm sorry you're so homesick for Boston. Here's hoping that you find the awesome job you've always wanted right here in Boston and get to come back!
But.... in the meantime, just try to picture all the freezing winds and huge snowdrifts that you'll be lucky enough to miss come winter. you know, every time anyone mentions the weather, they always seem to say stuff that makes me think I'll need a Taun-Taun to get around when the snow begins in Jan. :P
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Well, you might, but I have a feeling this will be an off-winter. It seems to happen every other year, and the big snows were last year and two years before that.
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Ah, shucks! No wading through outrageous amounts of sleet and snow? Well, I'll just have to cancel my Taun-Taun shipment I guess. ;)
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So I'm a little shocked that on rottentomatoes.com, Goblet of Fire has a better score among the elite critics than among the general critics. It still is getting great reviews overall, but normally the elite critics rate everything lower.
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It's darker. Much.
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The elite critics don't rate everything lower--that's usually the sign of a really good movie, if the elite critics like it more than the overall average.
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It's darker. Much.
Yay! That's definitely encouraging. After all, book 4 is definitely darker than book 3. I'd expect nothing less. I'm also pleasantly surprised about the reviews on rottentomatoes from the elite crowd. :D Can't wait to see it tonight.
*shrain rubs her hands together joyously until she remembers she has to study for seven hours or so before she gets to hang out at Hogwarts this evening....
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and here's our official review: http://www.timewastersguide.com/view.php?id=1200
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After tonight this will probably need to be changed to a spoiler thread, since many of us will have seen it and I know that at leas *I* will want to discuss it.
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I'd say start a new spoiler thread. That's what we usually do with big movies--one thread for non-spoilers, another for spoilers.
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If it was me, I'd put the link to the review in the spoiler thread. Since reviews to some people are spoilers and since the movie reviews we have had on this site often lead to discussions with spoilers. But I'm not an admin, just a lowly little Chimera. ;)
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Personally, I was highly disappointed. It's not a bad movie, except I think it would be difficult to follow even if you've seen the other movies, if you haven't read the books.
It's either my 3rd or possibly least favourite HP film, I think.
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Wow, I had the totally opposite opinion of HP 4. It exceeded all my expectations and made muggle's meat out of the other movies. Okay, I'm exaggerating a little. But no. 4 is by far my favorite, with no. 2 being the runner up. To each his own, of course. But I loved my journey to Hogwarts last night and want to go again before the month's up. :D
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What an awesome movie. I want to go back and see it again tonight. :) I never bought the first two on DVD because I didn't like the adaptations, but I did buy the 3rd, and I think Goblet of Fire is even better than Prisoner of Azkaban. I completely agree with the review--it's the best one yet.
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I enjoyed the movie. I was surprised at the different level of humor. From what I had heard about it beforehand, I thought the film would only be action, but it had some endearing personality quirks too (for instance, I giggled when it showed Neville practicing his waltzing for the Yule Ball).
I was also anxious to hear how the soundtrack worked w/o John Williams, and I was pleasantly surprised. It came together very nicely and made a good contribution to the story.
*kind of spoiler alert--but not bad*
I have to admit though, that I felt a bit let down by the graveyard scene (although Ralph Fiennes was great). I know that there was an incredible amount of information to condense, but that scene is pivotal and I couldn't help but feel that it was swept past with as much emphasis to it as any other scene. I would have enjoyed it more if there had been a bit more time for what was happening to sink in.
The next scene, when he returned to Hogwarts, grabbed me a bit more. Dan Radcliffe's crying abilities have definitely improved since PofA. I would have liked to have savored it a bit more, and I'm still disappointed that they cut the hospital scene and Molly's motherly hug. I know, that's the girl in me.
Overall, I'd say it was pretty darn good! I'm anxious to hear what others thought of the movie.
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I definitely liked the third one better. The fourth one was okay...I don't think anything they did was done badly, but...well, my opinion may have been affected by my experience. It seemed to me that the projection where I was watching it was dark; things toward the dark end of the spectrum were all too dark, though the light areas all looked good. But Karen didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, so it may have been just me.
Anyway, they skipped a TON of stuff. This movie had like...3 plotlines, while the book had more like 7 plotlines. Even in the plotlines they had, they noticeably skipped a lot. Like, we didn't see even a few seconds of the other dragon fights.
I never got the impression from the book that Durmstrang was all-boys' and Beaubaxtons was all-girls', which was what was implied in the movie. Were they?
Anyway, what was there on screen was pretty good, but the lacks were pretty noticeable. Like, they introduced Rita Skeeter, but...never did anything with her. Sigh...
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Yeah, there were some things lacking and some things they pulled up but didn't follow through on, I agree. But overall I think it was a great adaptation. In the books, you're right Ookla, the other schools weren't one-gendered, but it sure made their introductions tight visually in the movies, didn't it? I really liked the looks of the different school uniforms.
And ...
**possible spoiler**
...did anyone catch that Fleur de la Couer in this one was the same Fleur from book 6? It just occurred to me while watching the movie why I should know who Fleur was when I was reading book 6--I'd known the name was familiar, but couldn't remember why. Makes sense now that I've figured it out--she had to be at least 17 in the Triwizard Tournament.
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**possible spoiler**
...did anyone catch that Fleur de la Couer in this one was the same Fleur from book 6? It just occurred to me while watching the movie why I should know who Fleur was when I was reading book 6--I'd known the name was familiar, but couldn't remember why. Makes sense now that I've figured it out--she had to be at least 17 in the Triwizard Tournament.
***Spoiler Response*** Yeah. That's part of what makes her so funny in book 6. And you are inclined to think she's a shallow bimbo because of what you see here in book 4, so you are pleasantly surprised when it turns out different. At least, I was--when she didn't stop loving Bill after his face was ruined. But that made me like her and feel like I had misjudged her. But I had been viewing her through Harry's viewpoint, so it's his fault. ;)
I liked the movie. Yes, they skipped a lot--but they kind of had to. I actually feel like they did a good job of streamlining the story and a better job of having fewer plot holes in this movie than in the last one. Don't get me wrong, I loved the third movie--but there were some huge things they left out that you would only get if you had read the book. (Such as the whole relationship between Harry's father, Sirius, Lupin, and Wormtail and how they all became illegal animagi and how James and Snape hated each other--that was super glazed over.) Although, Earl had the same complaint about this movie. He hadn't read book 4 and he said he felt this movie was geared toward people who had and everyone else just had to muddle through. I don't know of anyone else who has seen it who hasn't read the book, so I can't say whether that is valid or not.
But I enjoyed it and am happy to add it to my HP movie collection. I, too, was moved by the scene following the graveyard when Harry is crying over Cederic's body. But I have my nitpicky things that as a "guardian of the text" I missed. Such as the Dursleys--in all the HP books #4 has my favorite Dursley encounter between the Dursleys and the Weasleys, involving a blown up fireplace and a ton-tongue toffee. That would have been fun to see, but alas there just wasn't time for everything.
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Fleur didn't come off as so bad in the movie though. There was that part with her little sister.
I did think that in the book the other two schools were one-gendered. Maybe that wasn't explicitly in there, but I did get that impression.
I hate to think what the fifth movie is going to be like, because they always have to cut so much out of the books. Like, in this movie, I feel like if they just gave it an extra half hour, the plot would have been much tighter and more true to the book.
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But no. 4 is by far my favorite, with no. 2 being the runner up.
2 is the only one that I might rank lower than 4. But that's because I've seen it the most, I fear. I'm sure I'd like it a lot more, otherwise. Probably.
I didn't like the soundtrack, personally. Didn't do much for me.
But yeah, I generally agree with Ookla, but feel more disappointed than him.
Moreover, I strongly disliked the fact that the film was dirtier than the book (from what I remember, at least).
I liked HP4 WAY less than the other books. And it's the only one I've read before I saw the film. HP3 was my favourite book.
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Overall, this movie was definately my favorite out of the four, the third being my second favorite. I liked the how they changed the mood of the movie.
The music I didn't like very much, I just didn't find it very attractive or distinctive or anything. The music from the first three I found better.
--- watch out, there are sort of soilers in these next paragraphs, if you haven't read the book or watched the movie you know what to do---
I had three major compaints about it though. First, I didn't like how it didn't seem at all like a school year, just like a big tournament at the school, there was only one quiddich or class scene, and only because it directly related to Moody and the tournament (I don't count the first quiddich scene, since it was only like 30 seconds). I can't really blame them though, since they had to condense such a big book.
My next two are more related to the story, what was the whole point of the first two challenges if it was just the winner of the third who wins the tournament? I'd understand it if you were disqualified if you failed one of them, but that wasn't the case, the girl from Beaxbatons (I'm not sure how you spell it) had dropped out of the second challenge but was still in the third. I know whoever did the best in the first two got to start first in the third, but how much of a difference did that make? They all met up like eight times in the maze.
On the topic of the second challenge, why did Harry save that girl? It's not like they were going to die if they weren't saved , and if they were, that would be even worse. It's not like Hogwarts'd be able to tell the dead kids parents "Were sorry she's dead and all, but it's not our fault she was the best friend of one of the competitors."
Anyway, that's basically what I thought of the movie.
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Girl in danger kicks off all sort of macho and muscular mental responses in male minds. Why do you think it's always the princesses that need saving, never the princes? :)
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Well, didn't that happen in the books? That Harry saved Fleur's little sister, I mean?
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Lightning, you really need to read the book.
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Yes. It was clearer in the books. Harry really thought that Fleur's sister would die if he didn't get her back within the hour. He took the rhyme from the merpeople literally, and that was why even though he was the first to reach the prisoners he was the last to leave. Hermione chides him for taking the rhyme literally--she says something like "You didn't think Dumbledore would let us die, did you?"--but Harry wasn't really thinking rationally. So it was a blunder--but a noble one. They kind of allude to that in the movie--they talk about his "moral fiber" and such. But, because it was a movie and we weren't in Harry's mind like in the book, you couldn't know without having read the book what Harry was thinking--that Fleur's sister would have died if he didn't save her.
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If it was me, I'd put the link to the review in the spoiler thread. Since reviews to some people are spoilers and since the movie reviews we have had on this site often lead to discussions with spoilers. But I'm not an admin, just a lowly little Chimera. ;)
People who think that reviews are spoilers shouldn't click on links that are labeled as reviews, should they? I can't be held accountable for the lack of self control of other people.
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I have yet to see the movie, but book 4 was by far my favorite. Book 5 was by far my least favorite--it was downright dull, and full of useless padding. That's the movie I'm most looking forward to, because chopping out all the junk can only make it better.
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I saw it and liked it. It was rushed and I feel sorry for anyone who watched it without reading the book, but I think they did pretty good at cutting it down for time. I think that Mad Eye Moody's character was portrayed well, but my husband (who's only read book 1 and seen the movies) didn't make the connection of the polyjuice potion and what they were alluding to (probably not the director's fault, but still, it was good I was there to explain). I would've liked more time on the graveyard scene, though.
Also, little thing: in the review it says the movie is PG, but it's PG-13.
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Lightning, you really need to read the book.
Yes. It was clearer in the books.
sorry, I read it, but only around the time the book came out, so I don't remember very much.
*now, to salvage what's left of my whole argument about harry saving that girl*
Still though, it wasn't explained in the movie and when you add that to quite a few other things, they can seem sloppily put together and unexplained
Those sort of things only appear when you really think about them though, and overall, it was definately a good movie
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I'm watching an A&E special on the movie--which no one should watch unless they have seen the movie, because it's giving away all sorts of stuff--but they are showing some of the special effects and how they created scenes, etc. I didn't even think of all the time that Harry/Daniel Radcliffe had to spend in a water tank to film the lake scenes. You forget stuff like that, when you're caught up in the magic of the movie. And I have to say I also admire the actors for doing so much green screen work. They have to completely imagine what the setting will look like because it will be added in later on computer.
Anyway. Just contemplating the life of an actor on a movie like HP4.
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I definitely liked the third one better.
This statement worries me, because, in my opinion, the third was the least well done of the series.
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This statement worries me, because, in my opinion, the third was the least well done of the series.
Um...why should it worry you which Harry Potter movie I think is best?
Ugh, I don't want to even start. There are so many things I could say on this topic, but it's just going to get me worked up for no benefit.
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Take your ritalin and/or prozac, ookla, you're getting all worked up and taking offense when absolutely none was intended at all. It worries me because I want to like the new one, and if the third was better, than this one = teh suck.
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I realized later that that's what you might have meant, and I apologize for not seeing that at first, though my reading of your words is a semantically valid one. I will ask you to apologize for this personal attack, however. Please do so.
If you check the tomatometer, you'll see that the third movie is more universally liked than the first two, and marginally rated higher than the fourth. I didn't specify in my post that I think the third movie is way better than the first two, so I'll say so now. The third movie is the best.
So since you disagree with me on my opinion of the first 3 movies, you may rest assured that it's entirely likely you'll disagree with me about the 4th movie as well and go see it without any qualms stemming from my comments.
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It worries me because I want to like the new one, and if the third was better, than this one = teh suck.
K, I'm not trying to take sides at all here. Just as an aside to e, personally I also thought #3 was the worst one out of all of them yet that #4 was the best. Actually, GOF really restored my faith that HP can be done well on screen. :D So ...have no fear, be of good cheer! I think you'll like #4.
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Wow, that surprises me to hear others say that they felt #3 was the worst. It was one of my favorites. I know that opinions are subjective, but I felt the third film was the first to capture some of the feelings that made the characters stand out. I enjoyed the first two because they visually personified the world I loved reading about. Really though, it wasn't until three that I felt some of the background of the characters themselves was given any justice in the films.
Yes, it was overacted at times, but I think I liked the third film best. I really enjoyed four, but I still feel it was rushed.
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Well, I've finally seen the fourth film. I liked it, though I realized it does have a much more depressing ending.
I also think that it is rather rushed. Considering the movies length, the hurry isn't so bad.
It's not a visually strong as the third movie. Azkaban made great use of visual symbols and metaphores for the themes in the book. Making it more of a film and less of a book with pictures.
Goblet of Fire didn't really go for visual impact, though it has its moments.
As far as story preference, I prefer Azkaban over Goblet of Fire. I see Goblet of Fire as being the most banal of the series, with the possible exception of the first book.
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i liked this movie a lot. I haven't read the books, but i had my roommate tell me basically what happens in them. So yes i know what happens in the latest one, "yay, snape!!(my fav. character)". Anyway, i didn't remember the poly juice so that was a surprise, kind of. I knew something was up when he took him to his room at the end. Also the beginning of the movie, with world cup was pretty cool. I also think that hermione is cute (yes I know her age, but can't i think she is cute without being a perv or a pedafile!), so i thought the dance scene was pretty good, and funny for ron, in that hermione looked good all dressed up.
Overall i thought the movie was great and i can't wait for the next one. I also can't wait for more jeremy irons goodness as old voldy! I did see the A&E thing after i got home, what a coincidence, and it was pretty cool not having to wait for a dvd to see behind the scenes.
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I'm hoping that they come out with an extended version of Harry Potter IV. It seems like there were scenes missing from some parts. Like when Hermione is yelling at Ron at the dance.
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oh the teenage angst. I do hope they end up going out or something.
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I'm hoping that they come out with an extended version of Harry Potter IV. It seems like there were scenes missing from some parts.
I walked out of the theater and got into the car before I realized that they cut out the whole Rita Skeeter storyline. I actually hate that woman with a firey burning passion, so I dont' know whether to be happy or upset about the cut. I could have done with more Hermione yelling at Ron, and less Myrtle trying to get a peek at Harry's naughty bits, imho.
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rita has her own storyline? yuk!! i am glad they didn't add that in.
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...Rita Skeeter storyline. I actually hate that woman with a firey burning passion, so I dont' know whether to be happy or upset about the cut. I could have done with ... less Myrtle trying to get a peek at Harry's naughty bits, imho.
Ditto! I was oddly relieved to have less Rita than expected. On the other hand, I was somewhat alarmed at how much we got of Myrtle-the-tramp. blech. If I didn't know better, though, I'd think this might be a nod to all those young girls who've fallen madly in crush for Daniel Radcliff. ;)
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If I didn't know better, though, I'd think this might be a nod to all those young girls who've fallen madly in crush for Daniel Radcliff. ;)
*nods*
There was a quote in the movie when someone says something like, "He's a student, he's not a piece of meat!" and I leaned over to my husband and whispered, "Tell that to all the fangirls."
I agree though - he used that bathtub scene as total fanservice.
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Yeah, though I'm not sure it was *his* decision to let Myrtle go all stalker-like on him. Actually, I'm thinking that the powers-that-be of HP film making and publicity probably had more to do with that than poor Daniel did.
But . . . maybe fame has gone to our boy's head? I dunno. However, I shudder to think, that, at his age, he went to the director and begged to rachet-up the sexual tension in the bath scene! yipes.
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If you check the tomatometer, you'll see that the third movie is more universally liked than the first two, and marginally rated higher than the fourth. I didn't specify in my post that I think the third movie is way better than the first two, so I'll say so now. The third movie is the best.
There were a lot of things that I really liked about the third movie, but I absolutely hated the way they did the werewolf. Ick. And it really bugged me that the movie never explained who Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs were.
We still haven't made it to see the fourth one.
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Or why Harry's Patronus is a Stag? Or so many other things. It was bothersome.
So, here's hoping I like IV so I don't start thinking "blah" when another HP movie comes out.
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I was watching it the other day, and they didn't make it a stag, just a big bright white light. Which is so less interesting than a stag.
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I thought they showed the stag later...
I agree that those are problems. They could have quite easily been fixed, without adding more than half a minute of time, and they should have been fixed.
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Harry sees the stag when he looks across the lake when he's being attacked by Dementors. The second time 'round, when Harry actually conjures the Patronus, it only looks like a bright light.
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Yes. My brother (who's read all the books about five times -each-) noticed that right away and it disappointed both of us. Such an important thing, really, given that his Patronus is connected to his late dad. :(
I also agree that another weakness of POA was how didn't get into the relationship between Moony, Padfoot, Wormtail, and Prongs. It's just glossed over, really. On a more minor note, when Harry sees dear old Sirius as a dog the first time, why does Sirius growl at Harry? Any ideas?
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If I remember from the book, wasn't he actually growling at a Dementor who was behind Harry?
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No -- he was growling at the three big indian guys behind Harry.
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As I recall, he didn't growl at all. Which is more consistent with his character.
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Hmm, I'd better watch it again... I guess he didn't growl. But he bared his teeth and acted really threatening. I remember in the book about the Dementors but in the movie I could've sworn they didn't show any Dementors in the shot... huh.
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No no no. I should have been more clear. In the book Sirius does not growl. (I believe. My copies of the earlier HP books are all in CA at the moment, so I can't check for sure.) And in the movie Sirius does growl. So what I was saying was that the movie was not being as consistent with his character.
And the fact you all have been arguing--that the movie does not give the Mooney, Padfoot, Wormtail and Prongs anecdote justice--has always been my main complaint of the movie. I see now that I am not alone. :)
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Ohhh. Thanks. You had me wondering if my memory is taking a leave of absence or something. Whew.
Yeah, and you're not alone on feeling gyped about the Wormtail-Padfoot-Prongs-Mooney bunch.
And what's with Wormtail transforming back to a rat by shrinking -out- of his clothes instead of them transforming with him? I mean, it doesn't make sense. He transformed from being Scabbers (who of course wore no clothes) into a nasty lookin' fellow -with- clothes. ??? It seemed pretty dumb to me--just an excuse to show off some FX, you know?
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I agree with all of the above. Most people who have read the books will know about the Mauraders' Map and its authors, but there are people like my husband, who can't remember the plot of a book for more than 3 months. (NOT kidding.)
I also really just wanted to see Rita Skeeter get pwned by Hermione....
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No no no. I should have been more clear. In the book Sirius does not growl. (I believe. My copies of the earlier HP books are all in CA at the moment, so I can't check for sure.)
So I was able to source check myself at my sister-in-law's with her copy of the book, and after I read the section in question I cried, "I am the Harry Potter Master!" and my mom and sister-in-law just looked at me funny. But I was quite pleased with myself for remembering the details. Harry did see "a hulking black shape" that resembled a dog. The dog aka Sirius did not growl. And there were no dementors--that's a different book, and Sirius isn't even there.
So never fear. The HP Master is here. *Chimera finishes gloating about knowing random facts that does not actually make her cool but in reality reveals that she is borderline obessesive fanatic*
If only I retained important or helpful information as well. Like foreign languages...although I still dispute how important or helpful they are. ;) J/k
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So wait--are you saying that the book with the Dementors is not the book with Sirius? Because that would not make you the Harry Potter master.
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No Dementors attack Harry on Privet Drive in HP3. That's in HP5, thank you very much. And Sirius in dog form is not there. That's what I was trying to clarify.
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Now, hang on - I'm re-reading Order of the Pheonix now and I can't remember which book Hermione founded SPEW in. Was it in 3 or 4? Did they include it in the movie or not??
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It was 4 and, no, it was not even mentioned in the movie. One of the things that had to be cut, I guess. Too bad. I'd love to have seen Rupert Grint going off about SPEW. ;D
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While SPEW would have been funny, there was already too much going on and making the film seem rushed. Besides, since Neville took over all the important house elf parts there wasn't a need for the house elves or SPEW. I think think it would have been funny though. Maybe they'll add it in the next movie or at least give it a cameo.
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It was a good film with great special effects but it missed so many good things that are in the book out. For example the Weasleys and there ton tongue toffees would have been good. And I would have liked to have seen the Quidditch world cup.
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What about the people where you live?
My daughter lost a good friend, her parents told her they couldn't be friends with my daughter as I allow her to watch "satanic movies".
I had a good long talk with the dad where I let him know how I felt about him and his wife, much to my daughter's horror.
But then again, when you live in the Bible belt, collect 'em. They make good kindling.
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Welcome to the forum, LCD! If you plan on sticking around, read the faq (http://www.timewastersguide.com/boards/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=news;action=display;num=1080380396), introduce yourself (http://www.timewastersguide.com/boards/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=news;action=display;num=1051196804), and be aware that this board is filled with sf/fantasy-lovin' Mormons (plus some other sf/fantasy-lovin' folks).
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Filled with? It seems to me that's what this board is and I mean that in the best of ways. This board wouldn't be what it is if that weren't the case. :) :)
It's kind of a haven for people like me, for people who need to talk about fantasy on a daily basis so that their heads don't explode.
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We've had our share of SFF lovin' Catholics, too. I just wanted to point that out.
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Yes, but were they Ninja Catholics?
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I'm pretty sure that one of them was just a smoker. Another one I'm positive was a Ninja Catholic Schoolgirl. Which is both sexy and terrifying.
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Now would the proper terminology be "Ninja Catholic" or "Catholic Ninja"? Or are both correct yet with different meanings?
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I think in English the adjective usually precedes the noun. So, if she's primarily a catholic, it goes second. I chose that since she's just learning ninjitsu, and, presumably, she's been Catholic longer.
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Ahh that makes sense, so I assume it's the same with your Ninja Monkeys, being that they were monkeys before ninjas. Though I always thought they were genetically created so the ninja part was equal to the monkey part.
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Yeah, in that case, I just think "ninja monkey" flows better than "monkey ninja"
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Ninja catholic would be correct if you want to follow that logic. And Ninja monkey def sounds better...