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i figure the compliment to what elend ate would take away the powers of a mistborn. besides duralumin already strengthens allomancy. and in all honesty i think the mists are water vapour too. but it's still fun to hypothesize...

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Vin's so smart! She's aways coming up with little ideas like that. ;D

Agreed mate.  :)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Theory on why Vin is so powerful *spoilers*
« on: March 13, 2008, 05:20:08 AM »
yes but we know from Vin that a hemallurgic piercing doesn't have to be internal like the inquisitors. they can be something decorative and removable like an earring. so the piercings can be distinctive while still being hemallurgic. and they can also be something seperate from any other culture. they probably weren't Terris piercings or Khlennium piercings. they would likely be seperate from any culture in order to make them even more distinct.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Comprehensive Hemalurgy Thread
« on: March 13, 2008, 05:15:11 AM »
i agree that the piercings were unique. but i think they were given in ritual sacrifice. and i don't think that Alendi would have mentioned it in the logbook because it seems that the Anticipation was pretty well known. in which case the ritual piercings would be practically common knowledge (especially to him) and so why go into too much detail?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Atium Mistings?
« on: March 13, 2008, 05:11:03 AM »
he didn't need to fear death but that doesn't mean a really good thief (on the level of kelsier perhaps) couldn't manage to sneak away his stash of atium. putting it where they don't expect made it impossible for him to lose economic control over his empire.

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i think maybe Ruin's influence was weaker when the well itself was weaker. it seemed to gain power as the well did rather than just with the lord ruler's death (though i'm sure it helped that he couldn't take the power for himself). i think Ruin just had limited influence and used it for things like Zane, Vin, and Vin's mother and  possible very subtle manipulations of the inqs (he couldn't be too obvious or the lord ruler would just purge them).

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oh i guess i should have mentioned which symbols are which metals.  :P

ok so start with external metals. the top half are the eight basic allomantic metals while the lower half are the high metals like gold and atium. so from left to right of external metals are steel, iron (physical metals), zinc, and brass (mental metals). then left to right of internal metals are pewter, tin (physical) then copper and bronze (mental). then continuing clockwise into the lower half. external temporal metals are malatium then atium. internal temporal metals are Electrum and Gold. the last quartet we don't know for sure whats what. but as i mentioned in the last post i think aluminum and duralumin are the external metals with aluminum being adjacent to atium and duralumin being adjacent to steel.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: use of steelpulling
« on: March 12, 2008, 10:53:08 PM »
you have a dirtbag in front of you and behind you, both wearing metal breastplates.....Pull, jump out the way, and laugh as they meet in the air! ;D

i like it. :D that reminds me of when Guybon (or whatever that dude's name was) was chasing vin with shan and pulls that armored soldier into himself in midair. classic.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Ruin and Preservation
« on: March 12, 2008, 10:50:21 PM »
actually i think there are a few rare parts in the books that mention the mist condensating into liquid. i can't find a concrete example at the moment though.  ???

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i guess that makes it a quirk rather than an actual weakness. but its a quirk that nobody but vin and i guess TenSoon know about. so really i guess its about exploiting a burner's ignorance of the quirk rather than the person or the atium.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Theory on why Vin is so powerful *spoilers*
« on: March 12, 2008, 10:46:24 PM »
my point exactly. although i have to wonder what kind of power is granted to a hemallurgist by himself. i mean the only ones we have seen are inqs and probably vin and then zane. they were all also allomancers mainly. so what kind of power would they have without allomancy i wonder?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Comprehensive Hemalurgy Thread
« on: March 12, 2008, 10:44:24 PM »
This is a pretty wild theory, but you all love it, dont you? :-*

lol of course we do. and who knows, maybe he did have some hemallurgic piercings before hand. maybe those were what kwann spoke of. or maybe he got some more when declaring himself the hero. either way i think he was a hemallurgist.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Atium Mistings?
« on: March 12, 2008, 10:42:29 PM »
statlin city was circled. and i was under the same impression that that is where the atium is hidden. i don't think the lord ruler would have wanted to hide the base for his economy in the city itself in case it was ever taken. everyone assumed it was in the city so to take it (to them) would mean getting the lord ruler's atium. the lord ruler strikes me as a person who does the opposite of what people expect.

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ok so i looked through the books and the ars arcanum for all the copies i had and here's what i found:

1. all the base metals pull and all of the alloys push. the pulling metals have the little dot outside of the crescents and pushing metals have them inside the crescents.

2.  also i found a pattern when moving around the circle. start with steel and move anti-clockwise. alloy, base, base, alloy. those are for the basic eight (upper tier) external metals. the same pattern holds for the internal metals and continues to the lower half of the circle. so malatium and electrum both push and are alloys and gold and atium are base metals and push. so if the last quartet of unnamed metals follow the same pattern then the two next to gold and atium are base metals and the ones below steel and pewter are the pushing alloys. so if my theory holds true the external metal below steel is duralumin and the external next to atium is aluminum. the internal metal above aluminum is whatever elend ate (assuming its the base metal which i think it is since it makes sense that a metal making you a mistborn would pull on something internally) and its alloy is next to it.

3. i couldn't find a pattern to the spikes piercing the crescents but that doesn't mean there isn't one.  ;)

Then just for the fun of it i looked up the alloys to find out what they are composed of. steel is iron and carbon and duralumin is aluminium and copper. pewter is tin/copper. brass is zinc/copper. bronze is copper/tin. electrum is gold/silver. no idea what atium is alloyed with to make malatium.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Ruin and Preservation
« on: March 12, 2008, 07:14:38 PM »
ya i think your correct in that it is some type of metal. but if its at liquid form at room temperature like water is then i would figure it could be vapor like water could and possibly be the mists. just a theory but i figured i'd put it out there.

but i'm still wondering how Ruin got trapped in the well in the first place. it seems to be a pretty powerful being but we don't know its nature well enough to know its limitations. but i got the impression from the books that Ruin may have been what 'summoned' the mists.

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