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Re: The Countdown
« Reply #165 on: September 27, 2008, 10:31:03 PM »
I don't know, I was of the opinion that the metallic lake was the Well of Ascension.

I was going to post this same thing earlier, but I was afraid I was just going to be scoffed at.  I stand behind you, Chaos!

I thought Rashek ended up leading Alendi away from it. 

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The lake that Fedik discovered is below us now—I can see it
from the ledge. It looks even more eerie from up here, with its
glassy—almost metallic—sheen. I almost wish I had let him take a
sample of its waters.
Perhaps his interest was what angered the mist creature that
follows us. Perhaps . . . that was why it decided to attack him,
stabbing him with its invisible knife.
Strangely, the attack comforted me. At least I know that since
another has seen it. That means I’m not mad.
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As you can see here, the mist spirit attacked at the 'lake,' just as it had attacked Elend right at the well.  It could be coincidence. 

*shrug* We'll find out in a little more then two weeks.
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Re: The Countdown
« Reply #166 on: September 28, 2008, 03:40:45 AM »
I am currently of the opinion that the metal lake is either a) an extension of the well of ascension, or b) a second well. But I definitely acknowledge other possibilities. It probably wouldn't even be too hard to get me to change my mind. This is just what I decided for the moment.
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Re: The Countdown
« Reply #167 on: September 28, 2008, 05:05:52 AM »
And I just lent WOA to a friend... Can't look it up now... Where was the lake located? Was it on that metal map, or just the circled city?

EDIT: Circled city theories, anyone?

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« Reply #168 on: September 28, 2008, 06:23:56 PM »
And I just lent WOA to a friend... Can't look it up now... Where was the lake located? Was it on that metal map, or just the circled city?

EDIT: Circled city theories, anyone?

It was Satlin city, if my memory serves me correct.  I highly doubt that there is just some simple collection of atium beads or stored food there, to be quite honest.  There has to be something more.  More steel plates perhaps with a shred of the truth? 
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« Reply #169 on: September 28, 2008, 09:52:27 PM »
Or possibly a handwritten account from Rashek telling about what happened after he took the power at the well...
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Re: The Countdown
« Reply #170 on: September 28, 2008, 11:21:31 PM »
Or possibly a handwritten account from Rashek telling about what happened after he took the power at the well...

...no comment.

EDIT: belay that. Why handwritten? surely it would be in steel...Alendi might not know of Ruin's powers but surely Rashek would.
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Re: The Countdown
« Reply #171 on: September 29, 2008, 12:02:44 AM »
Who says it's not possible to handwrite something in steel? That's a bad assumption on your part. In fact, I'd assume anything they did at this point in steel would be handwritten. Or at least hand-chiseled. Same difference.
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Re: The Countdown
« Reply #172 on: September 29, 2008, 12:16:10 AM »
I agree somewhat with those who consider the Well to be the Metal Lake.  If not:

There's supposed to be two.  Alendi/Rashek.  Vin/Elend (though I suspect it was supposed to be Vin/Sazed).   The "Hero" and the... well... opposite.  One to take the power, one to suffer a massive wound so the person taking the power would use it rather than release it.

'Gods' on earth.  Ruin/Preservation as embodied by those who take the power.  "The Hero of Ages"?   His initial title was 'the final hero'?  What massive havoc that would cause.  What epic 'end of the world' showdown between the two ultimates?

*shrug*  So... again... someone did wrong.  Last time Rashek killed his opposite and this time Vin let the power go.

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« Reply #173 on: September 29, 2008, 03:16:19 AM »
I agree somewhat with those who consider the Well to be the Metal Lake.  If not:

There's supposed to be two.  Alendi/Rashek.  Vin/Elend (though I suspect it was supposed to be Vin/Sazed).   The "Hero" and the... well... opposite.  One to take the power, one to suffer a massive wound so the person taking the power would use it rather than release it.

'Gods' on earth.  Ruin/Preservation as embodied by those who take the power.  "The Hero of Ages"?   His initial title was 'the final hero'?  What massive havoc that would cause.  What epic 'end of the world' showdown between the two ultimates?

*shrug*  So... again... someone did wrong.  Last time Rashek killed his opposite and this time Vin let the power go.

Let's wait a thousand years for the well to refill to find out what happens in the next epic chapter!

I kid.  ;)

That's an interesting theory on two heroes, Neina.  Very interesting indeed.  Again, there's also the question if either Alendi or Rashek were the real heroes, but they just failed.

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Re: The Countdown
« Reply #174 on: September 29, 2008, 03:53:51 AM »
I agree somewhat with those who consider the Well to be the Metal Lake.  If not:

There's supposed to be two.  Alendi/Rashek.  Vin/Elend (though I suspect it was supposed to be Vin/Sazed).   The "Hero" and the... well... opposite.  One to take the power, one to suffer a massive wound so the person taking the power would use it rather than release it.

'Gods' on earth.  Ruin/Preservation as embodied by those who take the power.  "The Hero of Ages"?   His initial title was 'the final hero'?  What massive havoc that would cause.  What epic 'end of the world' showdown between the two ultimates?

*shrug*  So... again... someone did wrong.  Last time Rashek killed his opposite and this time Vin let the power go.

Let's wait a thousand years for the well to refill to find out what happens in the next epic chapter!

I kid.  ;)

That's an interesting theory on two heroes, Neina.  Very interesting indeed.  Again, there's also the question if either Alendi or Rashek were the real heroes, but they just failed.



i said this before, but i'll say it again.

I don't think that the HOA was ever meant  to have the power. Actually, its a fact, since indeed the HOA didn't.

I think that the HOA is supposed to be endowed with the Mist Spirit.
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Re: The Countdown
« Reply #175 on: September 29, 2008, 07:20:51 AM »
I don't know... I think that the metal lake is referring to the Well of Ascension.

Okay, so... T-16 days. Go!
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Re: The Countdown
« Reply #176 on: September 29, 2008, 08:09:25 AM »
I don't know... I think that the metal lake is referring to the Well of Ascension.

Okay, so... T-16 days. Go!

Let's ride the new chapter: In what ways do you think Hemalurgy is fused with Alomancy? 
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Re: The Countdown
« Reply #177 on: September 29, 2008, 04:00:55 PM »
I don't know... I think that the metal lake is referring to the Well of Ascension.

Okay, so... T-16 days. Go!

Let's ride the new chapter: In what ways do you think Hemalurgy is fused with Alomancy? 

Well there is a relationship--the mist--in that Allomancy attracts it where hemulurgy repels it.

So they could be opposites of each other--or something along those lines.
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« Reply #178 on: September 29, 2008, 04:52:22 PM »
After reading chapter 3 I am now pretty convinced that Hemalurgy allows the transfer of abilities from one person to another through a blood sacrifice.  I also believe that Hemalurgy can enhance existing abilities, although I am not sure if it is required to sacrifice someone with that same ability, or if anyone can be used.  I need the MB2 Ars Arcanum now.  We need to look at the relationships between the Allomantic and Feruchemical abilities each metal has.  There may be trade-offs in some areas and doubled abilities in others.
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Re: The Countdown
« Reply #179 on: September 29, 2008, 07:41:28 PM »
Hmmm...

I do not know what to do with Hemalurgy any more. I never really liked the power-stealing theory much, but...

Obviously, Inquisitors do not eat the 15th metal to grant Allomancy. If they did, their Allomancy would be much stronger, as Elend's is. That would mean that the Hemalurgical process would then have to grant Allomancy. I guess that's how it would need to be.

Pewter's Feruchemical power, by the way, is physical speed, so it could definitely be Feruchemy.
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