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Title: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on August 08, 2004, 09:29:30 PM
This is kind of on the line of the "things I hate" thread was, but different.

These are the things that make you fear for the future of mankind, like frivolous lawsuits, the success of N'Synce, and the existance of Richard Simmons.

What prompted this post, you might ask?

Kidz Bop.  Those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, count yourselves lucky.  Kidz Bop is a set of CD's, periodically released, that has children singing simplified versions of popular rock songs.

Truly the most evil torture device ever invented.  The fact that people BUY these things, and buy them for their children, makes me sick to my stomach.

Half of these songs are based around sex, and it's being aimed at children?  Or how is an 8-year old supposed to appreciate a song like "My Immortal"?

It's a sign of the apocalypse, I tell you.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on August 08, 2004, 10:23:30 PM
What about the new one they've got out? Where the kids sing Beatle songs? That one hurt my ears.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on August 10, 2004, 04:43:11 AM
What's the story behind "My Immortal," anyway?
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on August 10, 2004, 08:42:52 AM
You're going to have to listen to the song, I think.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Spriggan on August 10, 2004, 08:44:21 AM
I've only heard it becasue I use to own the CD, I've never heard it on the raido.  But I don't listen to the teenie-bop stations that might play it.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on August 11, 2004, 03:16:29 AM
I've heard the song lots of times, and I can only guess that it's either about someone in a coma or someone with a mental disability.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 11, 2004, 07:26:19 AM
I haven't heard it, but the Smiths sing a song about a Girlfriend in a Coma (I know, I know, it's really serious).
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Maxwell on August 11, 2004, 05:24:40 PM
my friend had a road sign that said "appocolypse, 3 miles" does that count
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on August 11, 2004, 09:33:01 PM
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I've heard the song lots of times, and I can only guess that it's either about someone in a coma or someone with a mental disability.


*sound of jaw dropping*

Or, alternatively, about breaking up with someone who you gave your whole heart to and who has dropped you like a stone, but you  still can't forget them.

Not that your suggestions are bad, just.... um, wrong.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: 42 on August 11, 2004, 10:55:02 PM
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Or, alternatively, about breaking up with someone who you gave your whole heart to and who has dropped you like a stone, but you  still can't forget them.


I thought she was singing about someone who died. Or alternively, she died and is now haunting her past love because she just can't seem to move on.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on August 11, 2004, 11:19:06 PM
the title is "my immortal"...

for the coma angle, I thought her boyfriend has been in a coma for years, not waking up, little hope of recovery, no end in sight, and she wants to move on but can't...

or the mental disability thing, same sort of thing, perhaps from an accident, now a vegetable or severely disabled person that needs constant care, or perhaps even a family member she feels tied to and can't abandon because she's the only relative left and no one else will do it, but it's keeping her from forming any other relationships...
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on August 11, 2004, 11:48:25 PM
well....I still say that Pink Floyd's "Comfortably Numb" is about zombies.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: EUOL on August 12, 2004, 04:17:39 AM
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I've only heard it becasue I use to own the CD, I've never heard it on the raido.  But I don't listen to the teenie-bop stations that might play it.


Yeah.  Those teenie-bop stations love goth-metal.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Sig on August 12, 2004, 04:31:24 AM
Speaking of mental disabilities...
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 12, 2004, 07:31:36 AM
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well....I still say that Pink Floyd's "Comfortably Numb" is about zombies.

BLASPHEMER!
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Maxwell on August 12, 2004, 10:07:36 PM
I agree with saint, the zombies cant possibly be "comfortably" numb, otherwise they wouldnt grunt and moan all the time.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on August 12, 2004, 11:34:24 PM
They're grunts and groans of pleasure... nevermind.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Sig on August 13, 2004, 12:52:08 AM
And you would know this how?
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on August 13, 2004, 01:11:28 AM
Because it clearly states in the song's title Comfortably Numb.  And it's been said the song is about zombies.  And we all know zombies grunt, groan, and moan.  Since they are comfortable and they are groaning they MUST be groaning and moaning in pleasure.  What, you thought I had some first hand experience?
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Maxwell on August 13, 2004, 02:17:45 AM
eww.... actually something kinda like that started the inside joke that resulted in "hurricane steamy southern lovin"
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on August 13, 2004, 04:24:29 AM
Discworld zombies are quite comfortable, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 13, 2004, 07:28:35 AM
The next person to suggest that "Comfortably Numb" was about the undead gets to find out first hand if being a zombie is comfortable.

It's about numbing yourself to the vissitudes of life via extensive drug abuse (and how that's a bad thing).
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on August 13, 2004, 08:51:50 AM
Look, I don't like drugs, and I rarely if ever think about drug use.  Therefore when I started hearing the song, this is what my brain came up with.  I could give you detailed points of how I viewed each part.

The point was to kind compare it to the coma thing.  I completely don't see it, but I've obviously done some weird things to songs before so I'm not the one to be talking.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 13, 2004, 09:28:32 AM
zombies don't fit in with the story line though. The thing about anything on that album is that none of it can be taken out of context. A lot of those songs sound like rebellion "We don't need no education" "ooo... I need a dirty woman" "comfortably numb"   etc. The whole point is that all these things contributed it to his complete and utterly psychologically devasting isolation, which hurt him far more than anything else. His inappropriate responses to the trials of his life have, quite literally, driven him mad. Thus, while it IS about abusing drugs, it is far from a glorification of such.

Thus the problem isn't you, it's the fact that the song gets played out of context so often.

Also, the problem is a couple teenage boys continuing the blasphemy.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Maxwell on August 13, 2004, 05:23:07 PM
um is'nt being undead the ULTIMATE rebellion to mainstream life, cuz ya know you're dead rather than alive...
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 13, 2004, 07:26:21 PM
it's more of a rebellion against death, because, y'know, you refuse to die.
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on August 13, 2004, 11:17:06 PM
I thought most zombies didn't really have a choice in the matter...

Now, vampires definitely refuse to die...they could easily just stay awake until the sun rises...
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: stacer on August 19, 2004, 11:40:40 AM
Well, SE, this one's for you:

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Broadway Putting Up 'Wall'

By Ian Mohr
NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - Pink Floyd's "The Wall" is coming to the Great White Way.

Miramax Films has pacted with former Sony Music chief Tommy Mottola to develop and produce a Broadway musical based on the seminal rock opera.

Roger Waters (news), who co-founded Pink Floyd in 1965 and conceived the semi-autobiographical 1979 concept double album, will write the Broadway show's book and arrange and orchestrate music for the stage production.

The album, which includes such Pink Floyd hits as "Another Brock in the Wall," "Comfortably Numb" and "Hey You," follows the journey of disillusioned rock star Pink, who looks back at the experiences that forged his neuroses. Like Pink, Waters lost his father in World War II.

Waters, who acrimoniously left Pink Floyd in the 1980s, sold the stage rights to the project to Miramax and Mottola, who runs his own Universal Music-based label, Casablanca Records.

Pink Floyd's "Wall" album, which is certified 23 times platinum and sits in third place on the list of best-selling albums ever, was adapted into a 1982 film released by MGM and starring Bob Geldof (news). Alan Parker ("The Commitments") directed the "Wall" feature from a script by Waters.

Pink Floyd's theatrical live performances of "The Wall" became the stuff of rock legend, and an $8 million production was staged in Berlin in 1990, coinciding with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Said Waters of the planned Broadway show, "Now I can write in some laughs, notable by their absence in the movie."

Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
Title: Re: Signs of the Apocalypse
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 19, 2004, 11:55:44 AM
hrm... weird. I don't know if I'd be interested in seeing that or not. I feel the Who has betrayed me by their various adaptations of their Rock Opera. Maybe Waters can do better.
Or maybe Waters is finally realizing that his solo career, in fact, sucks rocks and that he darn well better do SOMETHING if he wants to live on something other than poorly negotiated royalties.

On a different, but Pink Floydian note, did you know that the members of the band are some of the least recognized rock stars on the planet? True story: for all their fame and the devotion of their fans, the lead band members are still able to walk -- WALK IN PUBLIC -- from their concerts to their hotel and not be stopped by a single individual wanting an autograph or to talk about their music and/or career. v strange.