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Title: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on April 28, 2004, 04:05:09 PM
New team abilities for the next Marvel set.

http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/gameresources.asp?cid=39008
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on April 28, 2004, 04:08:24 PM
oyj... can't... keep... up...
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on May 04, 2004, 09:05:08 PM
Some figures and dials of the new set:

http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/figuregallery.asp?releaseid=41

Most of them are fairly so-so, but that Captain America is absolutely awesome. (Though model-wise, Ghost Rider looks pretty cool.)
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on May 22, 2004, 12:25:07 AM
Sweet: http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/figuregallery.asp?unitid=5502
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on June 11, 2004, 02:10:59 AM
So what the crap is Mutant Mayhem? Sounds like they're going to add some of the Mage Knight 2.0 rules to Heroclix, with terrain cards or whatever.

http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/products.asp?cid=39109
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Spriggan on June 11, 2004, 11:39:59 AM
yep looks like it.  Speaking of mage knight, did you read the press release (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/mageknight/article.asp?cid=39096&frame=products) for it's new expansion?  It is going to be soo cool.  Oh, and I'm mad they're only planning on releaseing 1 DC expansion this year (Unleased), the lead designer of HC has allready said that Mutnant mayham is the last clix expansion this year and there might not be another DC "for quite some time".
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 11, 2004, 11:52:39 AM
if the DC heroes have been unleased, do they need to find a new place to rent?
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on June 11, 2004, 03:51:04 PM
I'm just bothered that we might enver get another Indy set at all. Very few people liked the first one, and it didn't sell very well, but I can't wait to see some more CrossGen stuff.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on July 19, 2004, 12:05:17 AM
Friday night Mustard and I finally got some Ultimates boosters: I got 7 and Mustard got 4. I picked them all up at the store and then let Mustard pick which boosters were his, knowing full well that no matter which ones he picked he'd get the best figures--you see, every time I give Mustard a booster he gets a unique. Every time. And he always gets awesome figures. It held true yet again, since in his four boosters he managed to pull a veteran Captain America, a veteran Captain Britain, several other very cool figures, and a unique Mr. Sinister. I had him open my last booster, and we attempted to trick fate by saying very loudly that it was his, and it almost worked--I got a veteran Punisher. No uniques, though, so I guess fate was too clever for us.

I'm not overwhelmed by the selection in Ultimates, but I love the models--these are some of the best sculpts the game has ever seen, and they make great use of translucent plastic in models like Mysterio and Ghost Rider. Even some of the little cheapo guys like Scourge, and the lesser known guys like Wrecker, have great models. I can't say that I like the new Jean Grey, or the new Hawkeye, but at least their dials are finally up to par.

I've been experimenting with pure wild-card teams recently (and blew Mustard out of the water with one last week), so I really want to try out the new team abilities like Ultimates and Serpent Society (imagine a Veteran Taskmaster who can move through walls and shoot stealthed characters...insert Homer drooling sound effect here).

I don't think I'll buy any more of this set, though; I have to save up for Mutant Mayhem to see if I can pull Giant Man.  (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/products.asp?cid=39169)
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Spriggan on July 19, 2004, 02:34:51 AM
I'm kinda sad I selpt in this saturday.  I set my alarm and don't remember it going off, so I missed the Marquee.  Oh well.  I don't think I'm going to get any of this set, there's no real figs that jump out to me.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on July 20, 2004, 01:09:14 AM
Yeah, like I said, it's not the awesome set that others have been. Captain America was worth it for me, though, and some of these others like Punisher don't hurt. A lot of the uniques look awesome, but I don't buy boosters for uniques--that's what ebay is for. Here's hoping that Mutant Mayhem is a little more exciting.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Entsuropi on July 20, 2004, 03:37:15 AM
http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/figuregallery.asp?unitid=5501

Isn't that just the dorkiest thing you've ever seen?
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: JP Dogberry on July 20, 2004, 03:54:25 AM
Well yeah. Mainly because he's British.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Spriggan on July 20, 2004, 05:14:28 AM
I thought Captin Brittan was a Brittish comic book character, not an amercian one.  So you can only blame your own people Entropy.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Entsuropi on July 20, 2004, 06:01:53 AM
Well, he has an awesome dial. But yeah. The union jack just doesn't work when used as clothing.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 20, 2004, 07:35:14 AM
doesn't a union jack on clothing usually indicate affiliation with some neo-facist group?
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on July 26, 2004, 01:09:18 PM
So my grandma decided to send me a bairthday card last month (my birthday was in November.)  It didn't bother me because I don;t expect things like that because I'm terrible myself at remembering everybody's birthday or anniversary or whatever.  Anyways, she put a $10 bill in the card too, and there wasn;t anything I was dying to buy with it, so when I saw an Iron Man R/E/V set for sale on eBay I picked it up.  

Then, I sold some old stuff on eBay that I'd been meaning to sell for a long time and they sold for much, much more than I expected, so I picked up one of these from an auction: http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/figuregallery.asp?unitid=5536

That Ultimates team ability is pretty cool, especially for a ranged fighter.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on July 27, 2004, 04:15:30 PM
Nice figures. Have you always been an Iron Man fan, or is it just based off of your recent usage of him in our clix games?
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: House of Mustard on July 27, 2004, 04:33:53 PM
You know, that's a cool model, but I don't think the he's worth the points.  Energy explosion is a cool power, but it isn't always very useful. (How often are your opponents figs all adjacent, and how often does one damage make it worth it?)
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Spriggan on July 27, 2004, 06:12:29 PM
Thats why you put him on a team with enhancers, get 3 rookie Psylockes and make him do 4 to every one.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on July 27, 2004, 06:58:58 PM
He's got pulse wave also.  That's nice.

I have always liked Iron Man.  I haven't followed comic books really, but I rememeber when I was a wee child seeing Iron Man for the first time and thinking that he looked really cool, and I liked the concept.  And he gets points for such a cool name, too.

A few years ago I picked up an Iron Man cartoon video from DI, but they were the old (old old old) cartoons, where Iron Man fought the Soviets and the new technology had to do with "electrical circuits" and such.  

I guess I've always been and Iron Man fan.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on July 27, 2004, 09:11:16 PM
That's like me and Green Lantern: I've never really read the comics, but somehow gained a form of intense brand loyalty to him, and to all things pertaining to him.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 27, 2004, 10:25:07 PM
well, having read their comics, at least you chose cool concepts.

Imo of the various incarnations of GL, Kyle Raynor is the best. I know there's this loyalty for Hal Jordan, and I understand why, but it's too... predictable. THe artist Raynor seems like a better choice, even if it is a bit artist fantasy. Plus his costume's cooler.

Iron Man. well. He's really cool. Like the character design and such. But well... like many, many Marvel concepts (X-Men, Cap America...) the character idea was really cool, and the story writing is often lame.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Spriggan on July 27, 2004, 11:23:41 PM
I just noticed something, all the Marvelclix figs have TM next to their names while non of the DC characters do.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: House of Mustard on July 28, 2004, 12:41:11 PM
It's probably just a little clause in the contracts when they got the rights.  Just a difference in negotiation.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Spriggan on July 28, 2004, 08:28:21 PM
Oh I know that's the case Mustard.  I just find it intresting that Marvel wanted that and DC didn't.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on August 03, 2004, 08:47:12 PM
Just a question so I can clarify what I understand of the rules...

Figure X has a damage value of 1 and ranged combat expert.  X is also adjacent to 2 friendly SHIELD team figures.  Given the SHIELD team ability, X could potentially have a ranged damage of 5, but the rule of 3 says that no stat can be modified by more than 3, so X's max ranged damage would be 4.

Is this a correct statement?
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Spriggan on August 03, 2004, 09:12:40 PM
correct.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on August 04, 2004, 02:22:15 PM
Thanks.  So here's another thing I wanted to clarify from the rules:

When I have played with you and Dan before I noticed that when a fig was making multiple ranged attacks, a separate roll was used for each attack.  In the rules it says to make one roll and apply it to all targets.  Were we forgetting this rule or was it a house variation?

Another question about multiple ranged attacks (MRAs).  According to what I understand in the rules, when you make MRAs you take the total damage from your ranged attack and divide it among the targets that you hit.  

Assume then that Fig X has 2 ranged attacks, damage of 2, and ranged combat expert.  (I'm assuming that you can use RCE with multiple ranged attacks; I know there are restrictions on using it with other powers and abilities.)  That would give X 4 damage.  

X makes a ranged attack against 2 targets and the roll is successful against both.  Damage could be divided 2-2, 1-3, or even 0-4 between the two targets.

Is all of this correct?
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on August 04, 2004, 08:54:32 PM
Your assumptions are correct. The reason we played differently before is because the rules used to be different, and I hadn't read the newest version yet. The made some big changes a few months ago, and under the new rules the shots would work the way you suggest.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on August 05, 2004, 01:39:48 PM
It makes having multiple ranged attacks a nice feature.  You can do the real damage to your primary target, but if you miss him/her you can still use the attack to hit secondary targets.

Thanks to that TWG "invent a superhero" contest I won a video game, which I finally picked up from Spriggan and returned to Media Play, where I exchanged it for $40 of clix (thanks TWG!)  I got a veteran Ultimates Hawkeye who starts with RCE, 3 base damage, and an attack of 11.  And 3 ranged attacks.  And the Ultimates team ability.  I'm itching to try him out.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on August 05, 2004, 04:02:25 PM
Holy crap. I really wanted a Hawkeye, but I just got the Rookie, who's actually a SHIELD member instead of an Ultimates guy. I got a chance to try out my Veteran Punisher against Mustard the other day, though, and he's pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on August 05, 2004, 05:16:19 PM
Does Mustard live in Logan also, or do you guys make lots of trips?

(And I was wrong - I have the veteran Hawkeye.)
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Spriggan on August 05, 2004, 10:51:00 PM
So I went to Games people play tonight for some clix action and unbenoced to me it was a booster draft.  Even though it was an Ultimates draft they let me by DC.  So my team was V Scarecrow, E Green Lantren (hal Jordan) and U Eclipso.  There was only one other person there, but I kicked his butt.  Doc Oc and Ghost Rider are no match for GL.

I won a LE Peter Parker!  Yea me!
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 12, 2004, 12:46:32 PM
how about this compressed origin story (http://www.qwantz.com/20031118.html) for him?
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on August 12, 2004, 07:42:19 PM
When I read that Sprig I saw "LE Peter Pan." Weird
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 21, 2004, 09:42:29 PM
Thank Goodness! They've finally announced another DC set, and while we have to wait for February I'm still quite pleased--it sounds like it's going to be a good set, especially with more Kingdom Come figures (come to me, armored KC Green Lantern!).
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Spriggan on September 22, 2004, 02:11:21 AM
Sweet.  Finaly another HC set worth spending money on.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 22, 2004, 05:06:06 AM
Yeah, Ultimates wasn't all that I had hoped. Mutant Mayhem should be good, though, if only for the feats and battlegrounds.
Title: Re: Heroclix: Ultimates
Post by: Spriggan on September 22, 2004, 06:55:53 AM
Since feats and battlegrounds will be in Legasy I'll wait till febuary to see them.