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Where did orcs come from? I know of no mythological foundation for them. Also, Tolkien's elves. They're very different from fae folk I've read of in lore. He did create quite a bit, and the rest he changed.
"Orc" is the Old English word for "demon", and Tolkien's Orcs were essentially demons taken and solidified into a tangible race. Granted, it wasn't a pure borrowing, but there's definitely a foundation for them. Even more so for Elves. They're hardly different at all from the Fae I've read in some Middle English stories (I'm a sucker for ME stories, I'll admit). I mean, how terribly different are the Fay in Sir Orfeo (or some of the Mabinogion, for that matter) than Tolkien's Elves?
Within LotR (or perhaps in the Silmarillion, I forget), Tolkien talks about how with every passing age, the Elves fade and grow smaller. In the Middle English tales I've read, the Fay are tall and majestic, not the little dinky Santa-style Elves they were considered to be in contemporary England.
The difference between him and you is that he did it first. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. Because Tolkien did it, and because he had such an effect on the market, anyone who uses 'elf' in a fantasy book has to react against what Tolkien wrote.
I wont disagree. But no one raised in Western culture can effectively do the same thing Tolkien did again.
I'm not going to address the whole YA thing. My point wasn't about those specific books though. My point was that there is a rich tradition of "borrowing", and a huge portion of the best-known books/worlds (Tolkien is certainly NOT exempted) are based on borrowed lore.
If you're using Tolkien as a primary source instead, I think that you're kind of making a copy of a copy, which weakens the piece intrinsically.
Rather, I've looked at his primary sources, and I've decided I rather like a few of his interpretations of them, so I'm using the same interpretations as him, in some areas. Definitely not in all. But this is why I really like using "his races". I've read a lot of Middle English narratives, and I rather like the Elves in them, which are, more or less, the same as Tolkien's Elves (Dwarves are a more Norse element, but I could ignore them in my world without any real problem. The Elves, on the other hand . . .)
Because that's one of the reasons people READ fantasy. To get something different! If it's the same as Tolkien, then why read your book? I'll go read Tolkien! Or one of the people who ripped him off with style, like Tad Williams or Stephen Donaldson.
I do not read Fantasy to "get something different" [than what I've already read, which is what you're implying]. I never have. I read it because it calls to me (
sehnsucht). I like magic, and dragons, and those sorts of things. The whole "bigger than life" aspect. I want something different from the life I live.
And it obviously wouldn't be the same as Tolkien. Even if the worlds were identical (which they are very far from), my stories and way of telling them are different from Tolkien's! Tolkien was a brilliant scholar and a master world-builder, but I've read better writers. The only similarities are that there are
elements of the world (such as Elves and Dwarves) that are very Tolkienesque.
I got a very "I like Tolkien" vibe from Jordan as well. As for Trollocs being "described very different," if you describe a portly short fellow with a humongous nose, but he's still without peer on the longbow and has a connection to the natural world and inhuman capabilities, he's still an elf, even though he looks different. Trollocs may look different, but from what I read, they're essentially orcs dressed differently.
I agree about Trollocs (consider them Trolls, not Orcs. but it doesn't really matter). But I still don't consider Jordan very Tolkienesque.
Ironically, it bothers me more that he didn't call them Orcs than how similar Trollocs are to Orcs.
Fantasy is more escapist than many others. You want to be pulled much further away from your own reality.
I don't think I want to be pulled further away, so much as I want to be pulled a certain direction (magic, knights, dragons, the ilk). I don't really consider reading Fantasy as the same as taking drugs, but whatever. So does all this make me an atypical Fantasy reader?