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Title: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Spriggan on July 29, 2003, 11:34:37 PM
The producers of the new tomb raider moive balme the newist video game for the movies poor performance not that fact the movie sucks.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/tombraidertheangelod/news_6072539.html
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: JP Dogberry on July 30, 2003, 12:14:28 AM
I didn't know there was a new Tomb Raider film, but if it sucks, I guess it's follwing in the footsteps of the game. At least there's some kind of consistancy there.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 30, 2003, 11:38:12 AM
I assume there's some sort of corellation between no marketing whatsoever combined with a probably crappy script and the failure to perform well.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Fellfrosch on July 30, 2003, 12:28:29 PM
Interestingly, Activision took the opposite approach with Star Trek--they blame the poor performance of their ST games on the fact that Paramount is using the property poorly. They went so far as to let go of the ST license and actually sue Paramount. On one hand, I can see Activision's point here: they paid a ton of money for that license, and Star Trek is weaker now than it's been since before TNG. But on the other hand, I think people will buy a good game no matter how stupid the relevant TV show may or may not be.

The underlying problem is that cross-media tie-ins are really popular right now, and people are putting too much faith in them. Just because you make a movie about a popular video game doesn't mean that you'll have a popular movie--and if the game is unpopular your movie won't automatically follow suit. If you're relying on a demographic of people who like Tomb Raider and go to movies then you're relying on a demographic that's inherently too small to support you. If you further limit your audience to people who aren't bothered by bad stories and stupid dialogue, then you've dug a hole for yourself that no amoun tof cross-media advertising can get you out of.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: EUOL on August 02, 2003, 12:16:01 AM
Well, I can't read the article, but I suspect the blame is because the game, as I've heard, is terrible.  I know it's gotten bad reviews.  So, if they release a bad game right before the movie comes out, that could hurt movie preformance I suppose.

The thing is, Fell touched on something right.  I think that when it comes down to it, a well-done movie is sucessful, and a terrible movie does poorly.  There are exceptions, but generally I think a good plot with good acting and good execution makes for a sucessful movie.  Look at Pirates.  It was a zombie-pirate movie based on a theme-park ride.  But it did really well.  That wasn't because of a zombie-pirate loving demographic.  The sucess comes from having a clever plot with no major stupidities mixed with good acting.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Entsuropi on August 25, 2003, 11:08:48 PM
Okay, so i watched Tomb Raider 2.

Film = trash.
Fun = moderate.
Plot = minimal.
Jolie = hot.
Stunts = good.
Deagle gunfire = loud.

Indiana Jones = better.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 26, 2003, 09:24:45 AM
are you suggesting that we should get Angelina Jolie to play the role of Indiana Jones?
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Slant on August 26, 2003, 06:20:32 PM
Sure, as long as she bares her chest and kisses her female co-stars like Harrison Ford did.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 26, 2003, 06:32:41 PM
I think I may have to stop reading this anywhere that my wife might see it. I could get in trouble.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Entsuropi on August 26, 2003, 07:41:35 PM
I second that motion! She has already done nude work anyway, so i doubt she would mind.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: JP Dogberry on August 26, 2003, 09:48:49 PM
You, of course, have my vote for that. I mean, that pretty much ensures the movie makes cash.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Tage on August 27, 2003, 12:35:13 PM
So, am I the only one here who thinks that Jolie is exceptionally unattractive?
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Entsuropi on August 27, 2003, 02:27:39 PM
Yes, yes you are.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Fellfrosch on August 27, 2003, 03:35:30 PM
I wouldn't say "exceptionally" unattractive, necessarily, just a standard degree of unattractiveness. Boring, mostly.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 27, 2003, 05:04:03 PM
She's more attractive than Nicole Kidman.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Tage on August 27, 2003, 05:17:48 PM
Who is also oddly unattractive.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 27, 2003, 05:21:46 PM
Ok, point taken. But I don't think Jolie is so hideous. She has a great figure, and that goes a long way.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: 42 on August 27, 2003, 05:33:52 PM
Both Jolie and Kidman are creepy, which detracts from their appeal. It's just the way they move and act. It's like something has sucked out their brains and is controling their bodies. If they could act more naturally, I think it would improve their appeal a lot.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on August 27, 2003, 05:59:12 PM
Everyone is right. Everyone is unattractive. I like pie!
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Mistress of Darkness on August 27, 2003, 07:33:05 PM
Jolie looks like a vampire would look in real life. Which isn't to say she is unattractive. I think she is beautiful, but in a creepy sort of way.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on September 08, 2003, 05:50:11 PM
Unfortunately the real reason the movie flopped is that the legions of labotomy patients are not financially independent enough to afford a picture show.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: House of Mustard on September 12, 2003, 09:57:22 PM
I'm a little late posting, but I'd like to say that few actresses are as ugly and repulsive as Jolie.  Actually the only I can think of who is possibly worse is Hillary Swank.

Maybe it's all of your bad taste that has driven me away from this site.  (Actually it's because I haven't had internet access for a month.)
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on September 12, 2003, 09:58:57 PM
he lives!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on September 12, 2003, 09:59:28 PM
Homsar. I'm glad your back dude. Keep it up.

And Hilary Swank, dude did you see Insomnia? She actually looks like a chick there. And is pretty. But hey, I'm a crazy dude, who likes crazy things, like chocolate covered molasses.
Title: Re: Reson why new tomb raider movie floped
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 12, 2003, 11:51:28 PM
In a makeup book my wife had I saw Hilary Swank done up like Raquel Welch in her cave girl outfit. That's pretty much killed any delusions I had about her not being hot.