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General => Rants and Stuff => Topic started by: Master Xaio on May 12, 2004, 12:15:19 AM
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Well, that was fun. We just got dragged out of the computer room, away from the BOFH Archives (Bastard Operator From Hell, http://bofh.ntk.net/Bastard.html) To stand in the sun for 15 minutes. As it turns out some student managed to set it off by accident or something. There are a few things about this which irritate me:
1. Getting Dragged out of computer room
2. Having to sit in a room for lunchtime while they try to make someone own up
3. I'm disappointed the student didn't cover their tracks better, they should have made it look like a real accident.
Incidentally, has anyone here actually heard of one of these alarms actually being true?
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last year the fire alarm went off, and the teachers lounge caught on fire, because Mr. bohman was dumb enough to put popcorn in the microwave for ten minutes
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When I lived in Colorado, we had an actual fire in the school. Well, not in the school really. It was in the parking lot. A car blew-up. So everyone had to exit outside of the school, even though the fire wsan't in the school.
I was in art class at the time. The art teacher found out that the fire wasn't actually in the school and let everyone back inside the art room so we oculd work on our drawings. But we did have to put up with the annoying fire alarm the whole time.
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I had the Fire Alarm go off during my trial HSC exam.
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When I was in high school it became hip to call in bomb scares. we had something like a dozen bomb threats in one school year. We went outside a lot that year, and the fire alarm is what told us to do so.
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When I was in 6th grade we had several bomb threats. One was "if you let the kids out of school I'll blow it". The teachers didn't tell us at the time why we where being held after school, but at least they didn't make us do schoolwork.
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I remember at one school I went to for three years, we had an annual bomb threat, the same time every year. I still think the best idea would have been to plant the bomb at the evacuation point, thus gaining complete control. Every time we evacuated I just thought that, and how badly jammed we would have been if someone actually did that.
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Well, we have had at least 20 fire alarms pulled this year, I can recall vividly 16 of them (yes, I just counted) and until this year there was at least one bomb threat a month a our school. What I find kinda funny is if someone really wanted to blow us all to kindom come, would they really call in and tell everyone? That's like saying to someone "I am gonna rob your house at about noon tommorow, so could you please have the police there?"...
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The difference between horror and suspense is that in horror, two people meet at a restaurant for lunch, and then a nuclear bomb will go off. In suspense, you'll see the bomb before they get to the restaurant.
Terrorism is kind of the same thing. When the goal is to destroy something, you destroy something: you take out manufacturing or energy sources, or military assets. When the point is to demoralize, you show them somehting. Or hint that there's something.
to go too far into it: take 9/11 as an example. The intent was not to hurt, but to scare. As many deaths as there were, it was not a significant portion of the US population. As important as the WTC was, it was not going to economically hamper the US's ability to respond or act (at least, it directly wouldn't). The point was NOT to take out assets, but to scare the government and citizens by showing them what could be done.
That's why you call in a bomb scare. TO make people realize they're vulnerable. Not to actually kill them, although that's sometimes the result. Alternatively, it's to make a demand, for ransom or something. there has to be a threat before there can be a demand.
Another reason to call in a bomb scare is to get out of class for the day, which, when the bomb scare is at a High School, I suspect is more generally the case.
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Excactly, which is why the faculty hardley pays attention anymore. If there is a bomb/shooting threat now all teachers just lock their doors, and continue class. Then the police come and do a bomb check and it's all over within an hour. We do more drills for these situations than anything else now, bomb threats have kinda fallin out of style. Now pulling the fire alarm right before my lunch time... that's a defferent story.
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Incidentally, has anyone here actually heard of one of these alarms actually being true?
Junior year of high school we were in New York on a choir trip and our hotel caught fire at 2am. That one was true. There were also sprinklers and smoke, and lots of firemen.
It was an exciting trip, all around.
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Hehe, at our school, the fire alarm goes off a lot down by the pool. Apparently, the showers in the girls locker roomlet off a lot of steam, and a fire alarm is coincidentally placed right outside the windows. The steam triggers the alram a lot, and a bunch of screaming girls always run out of the locker room. It's quite funny to watch.
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okay steam and girls locker room in the same sentance does not bode well... and frankly I think they did that on purpose, ya know just to watch the girls run out of showers.
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No, they don't do it on purpose. The girls locker room is just infinitely times better than the crummy sleaze hole that is the boys one, what with the forty showers...anyway, at swim meets and things like that, a lot of people use the showers, you can even see steam coming out of the windows. It's just kind of funny, because people have gotten used to it, and continue with whatever is going on.
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One time I set the school on fi... nevermind.
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Well, they didn't find the person.
I'm not sure whether to track them down and give them a medal for annoying the school, or to tell them off for not covering their tracks better (ie. they should have made it seem *completely* accidental)
I *was* flattered tho, when my best friend nervously asked me whether it was *me* who set it off... :D
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I wouldn't be. I mean, I dislike the rest of the school as much as the next guy, but the fact that your friends think your physco enough to commit a federal offense (is it an offense down under?) is somewhat frightening. Now this wont come back to bite me in the butt as long as Ironstar and/or Onion don't make any smart comments...
One time I set the school on fi... nevermind.
The longer that stays a secret the less jailtime you are likely to recieve, Onion :P
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Heh, scratch frightening, I find it downright hilarious!
And I think that *if* the fire brigade come, its a fine of something like $250. Otherwise, I don't think it is a federal offense. I could be wrong tho.
Maybe I should start living up to this reputation I supposedly seem to have.....
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Yeah, well, it's such a problem here that if you get caught doing it it's $250 minimum fine plus at least a year of expulsion to childrens' villiage (juvenile hall), which is a minimum of $36,135 room and board, which you must pay. If you are old enough to be arrested you get to have a trail and go to normal persons jail instead...lucky you...
And I wouldn't suggest it. Just find a way to break into the vending machines, tasty... :P
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Yeah, well, you *are* ignoring the fact that I didn't do it.
And as to the vending machine... well, I *have* done that. U can buy a key to open them for a couple of dollars, or u can just insert a card into the lock and open it. U gotta love free food...
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I am not ignoring that you didn't do it. I was just sharing how lenient your concequences are compared to mine >:( the man here sucks...
Anyway, if there was an illegal key trade going around here, I would probably be the ringleader, so nothings going for me. As for swiping a credit card or something, they are internal locks, impossible. They are also the kind that completey, not partially shut when you lift up the flap. I do, however, have a shot at it if I have a shirt and privacy.. yay me! It may not be worth the snickers, though...
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No, no, no, you don't get what I'm saying. The keyhole? Its round? well, if u have a reasonably flexible (yet strong) card, you can bend it into shape to fit into the keyhole, then twist and... need I say any more?
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Also you can take your aarm, grab the door and pry it open
it, works, our vending machines are so old all the locks are broken
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Can you little people please stop turning every conversation into one where you salivate over the concept of breaking the law? Some of us happen to respect law and order.
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you guys are really into the whole talking about how to commit crimes, aren't you?
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Two threads down... sorry, uh, a little. I mean, this thread started about someone committing a crime anyway, so it wasn't that big of a jump.
TFO, that's just dirty. Taking advantage of an old vending machine like that.
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Can you little people please stop turning every conversation into one where you salivate over the concept of breaking the law? Some of us happen to respect law and order.
Just give them a decade or so. Breaking the law loses a lot of its luster once you grow up and have to pay your own fines, and worry about jail instead of juvey.
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um actually I leave money in the machine, I only break into it because it's broken and doesnt take dollars, and I dont carry change
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Wow, that sucks :P
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TFO, you never have any money.
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altho they tried to install a new health food vending machine, it lasted two weeks, before somebody smashed it open and ripped the door clear off(it was found on the other side of campus)
a couple of my friends thought I did it, I'm a bit notorious for vending machine demolition and tearing doors off stuff
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When did this happen?
And it does sound like something you would do.
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um it was like three weeks ago...
and I only did that at disney land, that's' why I'm banned...
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Oh, yeah.
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*Looks Guilty* I didn't mean for this to turn into a discussion of crime! Tho while we're at it---
Anyway, it appears they may have caught the person who did it. Very sloppy crime work. But moving on to more legal things, and back to the original topic...
Over here in Aus (don't know what its like in the US, or that little junkland called the UK :D) no school I've been to has ever actually taken a bomb threat or firealarm seriously. I spose thats cause there is less actually bombing etc. going on over here.
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well they dont here either
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*Sighs* Ok, I'll make it a little bit more blunt in what I was meaning.
Over there in the US, there tends to be more um.... disruptions? at schools eg. The school shootings thing. You ge the point?
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school shootings are so two years ago
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*Bigger sigh and miscellaenous head-basing against wall*
I'm not going to go any futher down this path... Whats the quote? "Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" :D
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nail bombs and car bombs,and pipe bombs Oh my!
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You posted about 5 secs before me I think Entropy :) And so yeah, that just demonstrates my point that its a different situation in the US and UK as opposed to Aus.
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would you stop calling me an idiot
any way what I meant by that was they used to be taken seriously but arent any more, ther even used to be this thing called "no touch policy" where if you purposley TOUCH(any kind) another student you get suspended for two days but that was abandoned after students got pissed and vandalizef the posters and started threatenning school officials
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Ah, okies. Well I'm just going on what I've heard. And I *don't* think you're an idiot, I just take a ridiculous amount of pleasure in paying you out. Would u rather I stopped?
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nah I'm coo
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ark remember that time you ripped the door off the band room and hit briggs with it?
I still can't beleive you did'nt get in trouble for that...
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that's because it happenned after scgool, the only other person there was bret, now granted he did tell a teacher but they didnt believe him.
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And people think *I* have anger management problems...
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Over here in Aus (don't know what its like in the US, or that little junkland called the UK :D) no school I've been to has ever actually taken a bomb threat or firealarm seriously. I spose thats cause there is less actually bombing etc. going on over here.
We had a few bomb threats when I was in school as well, and I know as far as SE goes and a couple of the other long-timers on here, ours were before Columbine and all the other actual high school events. I think the schools took the threats seriously, even back then, because no one wanted to take the chance that this time would be the one time someone actually did leave a bomb.
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We only had a bomb threat once in school, and they found out who the kid was that did it, (just to get out of school, of course.)
When I worked at School Specialty we actually did have regular bomb threats. That was always interesting, because of the chemicals stored in the building the evacuation process was rather extreme, and we had to get at least half a mile from the building.
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I missed the first 3 periods of school my senior year becasue someone coverd the main entrence hallway with a "suspicious" white powser. Turned out to be just flower (more finely ground then normal), but it took the police about 4 hours to get the tests done (this was about 8 years ago, so well before those snazy kits they have now).
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I'm just keeping my eyes on Max.
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how can you keep your eyes on me if I stab them out?
I dont have anger managment problems, we were just having fun...
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It's all fun and games until someone loses both eyes....
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hey, he kicked me in the head first...
then I hit him with the door, then he stopped kicking me...among other things...
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yeah, like staying concsious form more than two minutes at a time
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he wasnt much of a talker anyway,
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Now he can't be much of a talker, punk.
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he talks less but the things he says have become more intelligent(by his standards, which isnt much )
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Who are you talking about?
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briggs
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Ahhhhhhhh.
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So some genius pulled the alarm again today... now that it is warming up we will see a lot of this. For half an hour we went outside, were told to go inside, then told we weren't supposed to go inside and we should go back outside, and repeat... FUN!!! >:(
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Heh, now you know what I'm talking about :) And TFO, you do martial arts right?
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yes.
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And so you let some dude kick you in the head, and so you pulled off a door and hit him round the head with it?
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actually briggs(one of me freinds) wouldnt stop poking me in the back of the head with a stick, so I puched him in the leg, then he punched me in the back of the head, then I ripped the door off the band room and hit him in the head with it, then he kicked me in the head, then I hit him with the door again, the he fell over.
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TFO, check your messages.
EDIT: TFO, Check your messages again, then.
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I dont have any messages.
EDIT: I got it ;D
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THen check em again.
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Okay, the point of instant messages is to keep them from being posted to other users. If you are announcing instant messages you might as well say what you have to say to everyone...
On another note, TFO what style do you study?
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tesasu, it is combat not self defence and it originated in the U.K. it's little know, probly has less than a thousands students world wide.
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I have heard of that, actually. I do Isshin-Ryu myself, okinowan defense and assault.
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you have, I'm suprised.
I've been taking it for almost twelve years now, I started teaching (at the place where I took it) it about two years ago.
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Congrats, I move for my black in less than a year, though I already have everything I need for it down. I am just waiting for all the masters to formulate another black belt testing, which could take awhile.
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ever been to a tournament where it's okay to "break" your opponent?
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I don't do tounement's so much. I have been in street fights were I HAD to break my opponent, though. Does that count?
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yeah, thats pretty much what the tournements are like
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Incidentally, on the weekend I went down to Bulladelah (about 1.5 hours north of sydney) and spent one day training with Sensei Sumi, the head of our style (shotukan karate) and then attempted and succeeded in grading to my black belt. So I'm still on a high on that :D
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Yeah, I have seen 'em. They are insane. The only difference is a) there are rules, however little, in tournaments and b) there is only one opponent at a time in a tournement and c) Your opponents aren't armed in tourneyments... but in reality they basically are the same thing with pads
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in tesasu you can shoose to be armed or not(your opponent also chooses) and there are no pads, you DO wear shoes and a chain around your strong hand
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This sounds like street-fighting with no rules, not martial arts....
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well it was invented by the orange irish(scotts who were relocated to ireland) what did you think it would be like
It's highly refined and expanded street fighting, all the moves can easily transition into each other and none of them are complicated, the real challenge is how fast you can move how many hits you can take and how hard you can kick someone in the head than throw them at the ground.