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Title: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 12, 2005, 12:40:24 AM
It's probably too early for me to be applying for actual job openings, so I figured I'd point this out to all of you just in case. I'll still send my application, but I doubt they'll be willing to wait a month and a half to two months before I'd be able to start.

http://www.wizards.com/jobs/welcome.htm
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: 42 on March 12, 2005, 10:07:09 AM
Actually, looking at the end date, the actual job may not start until May.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 12, 2005, 12:11:44 PM
Hmmm. Yeah, if they're unposting it April 1, they may be willing to hire for May. I didn't see that.

New York is still a better option for the numbers of higher-quality publishers, but Seattle'd be a nice place to live, so I hear. And cheaper than New York. It's worth applying for, just to see, though I'd rather work for a company like HarperCollins or Penguin Putnam (the latter of which, I just heard, cut 40 employees because of financial difficulties).
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: Entsuropi on March 12, 2005, 01:05:05 PM
It fired them or it lascerated them? :s
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on March 12, 2005, 04:50:12 PM
Hmmm...I wonder if Anne was affected...
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 12, 2005, 06:26:36 PM
Was she at Penguin? I'm not sure who was affected, but it seemed to be across the board, not just the editors with the least experience. I'm pretty sure, though I'm not positive, that the 40 number also includes non-editorial, though, so it's not quite as bad as it sounds.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 14, 2005, 10:54:31 PM
Well, I applied. We'll see what happens. I'm really feeling the pull toward New York, but I also need to apply for anything that seems like a viable option.

Cool thing about the New York possibility, though, is that a friend who is getting married in August has promised me her very cheap (for New York standards) one-bedroom apartment. Since I'll be "graduating" (term in quotes because it's not a real graduation, but rather a forced exile) to a family ward in August, it really doesn't matter where I live, so I can go for cheap, rather than where the singles ward is. (NY singles wards are strict about the 31 age limit.) And the family ward is actually right across the street. Jaime says it's a great ward and a nice neighborhood with a park right down the street, so between that and a fairly good commute to midtown, it'd be a good option. I'd just find a sublet till it was available, and sublets are the easiest thing to find in the NY wards, apparently.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 14, 2005, 11:33:26 PM
How long has WotC been owned by Hasbro?
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on March 14, 2005, 11:37:31 PM
September of 1999, according to Google.

Though I didn't know until J.T. mentioned it to me last July, during a  long conversation discourse about the history of gaming.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 14, 2005, 11:39:46 PM
Well, I do remember discussion here or at TLE when the WotC store closed, something about change in ownership or something. But I really didn't pay attention, and didn't realize it was the toy company. Seems to make sense, I suppose.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on March 15, 2005, 09:10:46 AM
Yes, Hasbro has had a busy half-decade or so. Acquiring Milton Bradley, Avalon Hill, and Wizards of the Coast, they're kind of the kings of gaming.

Ok, I'm not sure about the MB thing, but they did at least acquire the best lisences MB had to offer.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 17, 2005, 10:48:42 PM
So here's something. Not New York, but WotC called me back. My roommate emailed me about it, so I think it's for an interview, but I won't know till I call them back tomorrow. Anybody know anything about Seattle? I should ask my home teacher. He's from that area.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on March 18, 2005, 08:50:29 AM
woo woo!
keep us updated!
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 18, 2005, 02:49:52 PM
Phone interview set up for next Friday. We'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on March 19, 2005, 01:08:23 PM
Good luck...if you want it!!
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 19, 2005, 06:25:45 PM
Thanks. I don't know if I want it, yet. I think it's too early to tell. I like having it as an option, though.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 23, 2005, 09:26:54 PM
So I have this phone interview with them on Friday. Any suggestions/tips? I always get nervous before an interview, and don't really know what to say or ask sometimes, even though I know my field well. I'm worried, for some reason, that I might not be enough of a gamer for them, even though it's the book side. I've read a few of their books, and will be checking out the new Mirrorstone books off the shelves at work tomorrow. I met one of their authors at LTUE (Dan Willis, I think was the guy) and have been meaning to read at least parts of his book, so I'll have to do that before Friday--show that I know their work at least a little.

Thing is, I can't help but feel a little worried that it's not the kind of thing I really want to do--it's series fiction. Yet it's a start in the right direction, and I might be able to bring something to it and help it improve. Then there's the philosophical question we've been discussing in the books forum--can a fantasy book be dependent on another creator's world and still be good? Yet there's something to be said for series fiction helping create readers. I mean heck, I loved Trixie Belden and Nancy Drew when I was growing up.

Anybody have any thoughts on this, particularly on how to approach the interview?
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on March 23, 2005, 10:56:07 PM
oh and Seattle rocks, its the Boston of the West Coast, with frendlier people. I lived in its shadow in the early 90's
Expensive and hard to get around outside of town but really cool.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: Skar on March 24, 2005, 12:33:30 AM
Think Big!  For heaven's sake, this place is, essentially starting out in the book market but they have the money to have a real go at it.  You could encourage what is good about series fiction and bring something HUGE to the world of YA lit.

You could imprint yourself on the entire new genre they're creating.  Come up with some grand, and I mean grand, goals and work towards them.  You want to be an editor of YA fiction?  What an incredibly great place to start.  Once you're into the company you could have a huge effect on things.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: 42 on March 24, 2005, 12:41:02 AM
Skar has a point, I'm sure they are looking for someone who they feel has the potential to be famous in the industry. Cause, they want to become famous and well-known for YA someday. So you'll have to sell yourself to them that way.

Basically, ooze confidence. Works in most any interview where you'll have a position that will determine the profit margin of the company.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 24, 2005, 01:20:43 AM
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Think Big!  For heaven's sake, this place is, essentially starting out in the book market but they have the money to have a real go at it.  You could encourage what is good about series fiction and bring something HUGE to the world of YA lit.

You could imprint yourself on the entire new genre they're creating.  Come up with some grand, and I mean grand, goals and work towards them.  You want to be an editor of YA fiction?  What an incredibly great place to start.  Once you're into the company you could have a huge effect on things.

Good Luck!


Thanks--I think you have a very good point. And someone pointed out to me in another place that perhaps they don't want a gamer, because gamers might be attached to their particular vision of the world. So I'm thinking one of the questions I might ask when asked if I have any questions for them would be something like, "How do you see the line expanding in the future?" or "Are you open to acquiring original fantasy not related to worlds already in games WotC produces--or at least expanding beyond the Dragonlance world?" or something like that. I've been browsing the site, and mostly what Mirrorstone produces is Dragonlance books with teen characters.

I was talking to Dan Willis at LTUE and he was saying that what the teen line is trying to do is do fantasy that's not as gory as the so-called adult lines, which I welcome. That's one thing that turned me off with a couple of the books I reviewed last year. But then, a lot of their older stuff is pretty good, and I'd like to see them recapture that quality.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 24, 2005, 02:26:14 AM
Well, here's something interesting. In their press release discussing the opening of the Mirrorstone imprint, they say that they're starting out with fantasy, but that they intend to branch out into other YA genres:

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Two new series will launch the imprint: Dragonlance: The New Adventures, meant for readers aged ten and up, and Knights of the Silver Dragon, targeted at readers aged eight and up. Although both series fall within the fantasy genre, Mirrorstone titles will not exclusively focus on fantasy literature. In the coming years, the editors plan to publish within a variety of genres for young readers.


Also, I really need to check out the Knights of the Silver Dragon series. I've seen it on the shelves at work. The author says this about other roleplaying series, and I agree: "With some game-related fiction, you can almost hear the dice rattling in the background as the plot moves along." He also says:

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Having written and designed games for over fourteen years, Matt Forbeck, author of Secret of the Spiritkeeper, had a unique vantage point in writing the story. "Knowing the D&D rules thoroughly meant I could be true to the game's roots without being hampered by them. With some game-related fiction, you can almost hear the dice rattling in the background as the plot moves along. Mostly this happens when an author tries to mimic the way the rules of the game work without truly understanding their function. You won't see any of that in Secret of the Spiritkeeper."


I'd like to see whether he lives up to it. The whole release is here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=books/main/mirrorstoneintro).
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on March 24, 2005, 08:53:38 AM
Mention the D&D books you've read: Weasel's Luck was a Dragonlance book. And mention that you occasionally write reviews for a site that's oriented around gaming.

But yeah, talk about the future you think they have, how you think you can help with that, and how excited you are to be a part of it. They like that. It shows you want to WORK for them, get things done, make them big.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: 42 on March 24, 2005, 11:11:14 AM
Since you'd be working with gamers, you may want to brush up on the history of D&D. Gamespy has a good several articles. http://pc.gamespy.com/articles/538/538848p1.html?fromint=1

And looking over the history of WotC wouldn't be bad either. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=company/whatis/story

Actually it's always good to show that you are a little familiar with a company's history when you interview. Show that you are really interested and also helps out the interviewer.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 24, 2005, 11:40:42 AM
Thanks for the links. I've actually been browsing the Wizards site quite a bit, so I came across that history before. I think it'll be a good interview.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: EUOL on March 25, 2005, 04:53:21 AM
I'd like to give my encouragement, Stacer, but I don't really have any advice.  The thing is, I don't really know the WotC market any more.  I might have had advice when I was fourteen....

Anyway, I do think it could be a really nice position, especially because WoTC is trying to launch a mainstream fantasy line.  If you could get in on that, and become an editor without having to live in New York, I think you would be in a very enviable place.  
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on March 25, 2005, 09:08:25 AM
Good luck today, Stacer!
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 25, 2005, 08:09:36 PM
Whew! First interview over! Sounds like a really fun company to work for. They'll be calling people next week about second interviews, so it sounds like they're moving pretty fast. I think it went pretty well, but I'm not sure. You never can tell, especially without being able to see their faces. Plus, I got a little nervous and even though I had notes, they'd answered a number of the questions I'd wanted to ask, so I only asked a couple, but hopefully those were good questions that showed I'd been thinking about it.

Here's something really cool: they have a gym right there in the building. That'd be really, really nice. And they do a lot of team-building kinds of things.

/me breathes deeply

It's over, and all I can do now is wait to hear back.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on March 25, 2005, 11:32:27 PM
urg.... "team building"
i've never enjoyed those.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 25, 2005, 11:52:43 PM
Well, when those "team-building" things mean ski trips, movie nights, game day once a year, etc., that's kinda fun.

News: I made the first cut, at least! She just emailed me an editing test.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on March 25, 2005, 11:58:11 PM
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet. keep going!
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 30, 2005, 04:12:07 PM
So I missed a call on my cell phone a minute ago, and no message was left, and no phone number was available. :( Makes me wonder. No email in my inbox, though. Hmm.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: 42 on March 30, 2005, 05:40:05 PM
If it was WotC they would have left a message, or they plan to call back.

Just keep hoping.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 30, 2005, 11:44:14 PM
I subsequently checked my messages on my home phone, and she had already left a message on my home phone, which is why she didn't leave a message on my cell.

So I called back, and I have a second interview scheduled for next week! Yay! It's with about five people, who must be all the editors in the book department. One is the associate publisher, who I interviewed with the first time, and one is the editor of Mirrorstone, who was the other person in the interview. The other three names I didn't recognize.

I've decided that I must clean my room before the interview this time, because last time (and still) my room was so messy that I had too many things sitting around on the floor distracting me, getting in the way.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: 42 on March 30, 2005, 11:47:02 PM
Congratulations.

I'm sure you will do fine.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on March 31, 2005, 06:56:22 AM
YEEEEHAW!!!!

I lived in Texas for 3 years so I feel entitled to do that.
Congratulations on your callback...

I have great confidence in your chances...
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on March 31, 2005, 09:01:13 AM
can i get a w00t?! I said, can I get a w00t?! Praise Gary!
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: Entsuropi on March 31, 2005, 09:58:21 AM
Gary! Gary! Gary! Gary! Gary! Gary!

...

[S.J. Jackson]GAAAAAAARRRRRRYYYYYY!!!
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on March 31, 2005, 10:01:35 AM
Supercalifragili.... you know the rest. Good luck, have fun, don't die.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on March 31, 2005, 10:48:50 AM
Little chance of dying on a phone interview.  ;)
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: Entsuropi on March 31, 2005, 11:44:48 AM
Entropy Inc offers a affordable range of packages that can ensure just that very event happening to one of your enemies.

For a small surcharge they can be on the phone to you.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on March 31, 2005, 11:45:57 AM
"Yes, I'm telephoning in an assassination. Is Mr. Smythe in?"
"I'm sorry, he's in a meeting right now. Would you like me to have him call you back?"
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: Jelly_Belly on March 31, 2005, 11:56:13 AM
Good luck, Stacer. I hope everything goes well with the interview. I really envy you cause I'm from the Seattle area and would love to live there again, but I'm forever stuck in Happy Valley. woohoo.
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: Entsuropi on March 31, 2005, 12:02:51 PM
Well I was more thinking that a professional assassin (since they would be professional from the moment they accepted the job, that makes that a pretty vague definition) would wait til they were on the phone then burst in and shoot them.

:)
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: 42 on April 09, 2005, 12:46:16 AM
So Stacer, did you have your interview? How did it go?
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: stacer on April 09, 2005, 01:42:27 AM
Yeah, it was tonight. It went really well. I don't want to get my hopes up too high, but I think I'll get an offer. I hope. Things were just really smooth, and they were so cool. They had to clear a board game off their desk to be able to get the phone close to the people who needed to talk, because they'd been playing a game at lunch. How fun is that? Certainly a different atmosphere than most places I've worked, at which you either have a solitary lunch off reading somewhere (which I actually enjoy) or you go to lunch with coworkers or you sit at your desk and eat while working.

Anyway, I think it would be a very good opportunity, and I think there's a very good chance that they'll want me. /me crosses fingers and knocks on wood
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 09, 2005, 09:10:19 AM
I think this would be really cool. GOOD LUCK! EVEN MORE GOOD LUCK! THE MOST GOOD LUCK IN THE WORLD!
Title: Re: WotC hiring Associate Editor for teen series
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 09, 2005, 06:10:49 PM
What Saint E said times 100.