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Title: review: The Promise
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on May 10, 2006, 05:26:14 PM
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Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Parker on May 10, 2006, 06:03:25 PM
Looks interesting.  I was surprised at the vehemence against Iron Monkey, a film I actually enjoyed quite a bit.  It's been a while since I saw it, but I thought it was quick, funny and action-packed.

House of Flying Daggers was overhyped.  Cool action, beautiful scenery, awful story.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on May 10, 2006, 06:47:01 PM
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Looks interesting.  I was surprised at the vehemence against Iron Monkey, a film I actually enjoyed quite a bit.  It's been a while since I saw it, but I thought it was quick, funny and action-packed.

House of Flying Daggers was overhyped.  Cool action, beautiful scenery, awful story.


The last section of "Flying Daggers" was quite lame - I was having a lot of fun with it until it just fell apart and became a very stupid melodrama.  ???

But "Iron Monkey" literally had no good qualities, in my opinion - not skillfull or fun, just a dreadful peice of film making. in fact, that's going far too easy on it. It's quite high on my worst of all time list. That is, of course, just one opinion, though.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Parker on May 10, 2006, 07:05:56 PM
And an opinion I respect.  I'm just wondering if we saw the same movie.  Iron Monkey 2 was AWFUL.  Any chance you saw that one instead of the first?
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Bill_Snyder on May 10, 2006, 08:52:09 PM
I think people don't give enough credit to how much these movies promote literacy. I mean, they only reason I even learned to read was so I could watch kung fu movies and download porn from the internet.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on May 10, 2006, 09:54:45 PM
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And an opinion I respect.  I'm just wondering if we saw the same movie.  Iron Monkey 2 was AWFUL.  Any chance you saw that one instead of the first?


No, it was the first one, the one that was released theatrically in the U.S. in the fall of 2001.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Parker on May 10, 2006, 10:02:26 PM
Well, if you REALLY want to know what awful is, then watch the second.  I guarantee it'll make the first look like a work of genius.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on May 11, 2006, 09:08:03 AM
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I think people don't give enough credit to how much these movies promote literacy. I mean, they only reason I even learned to read was so I could watch kung fu movies and download porn from the internet.

This makes me giggle.

Incidentally, I didn't see Flying Daggers, but I had no problem at all with the suspension of disbelief in Hero. But then, I read Hulk comics.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on May 11, 2006, 12:05:00 PM
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This makes me giggle.

Incidentally, I didn't see Flying Daggers, but I had no problem at all with the suspension of disbelief in Hero. But then, I read Hulk comics.



I love the Hulk, and I loved "Hero" - but deflecting all of those arrows with his sword? That takes some suspension of disblief. But suspension of disbelief is inherrent to many of the best action movies. I hate it when I go to see a Bond flick and someone near me complain because it's silly - what did you think you were watching?

"Daggers" is way over the top, but in a very fun way (I love the fact that an archer fires six arrows in quick succession, and the other five pause, in mid air, mind you, so they can all hit their prospective targets in perfect sync. That being said, I love that shot - "Daggers" is just amazing, action wise - for more impressive than "Hero," though "Hero" is more visually striking in terms of color an cinematography, and has a much better ending. Ultimately, I like both movies enough to own them.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Fellfrosch on May 11, 2006, 12:19:45 PM
I really like the ending of Flying Daggers, though I am increasingly aware that I'm one of the only people in the world who does.

I also like Iron Monkey; it's actually on my "to buy" list, which isn't very large. It's so far removed from the others we're discussing as to be in a different genre, but I thought it was fun.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Skar on May 11, 2006, 01:34:31 PM
Remind me what the ending to Flying Daggers was?  I watched it I just can't remember anything substantive about it.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Spriggan on May 11, 2006, 01:35:35 PM
The three month long fight.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Skar on May 11, 2006, 01:38:26 PM
Yes, but what was the closure?
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Parker on May 11, 2006, 02:13:31 PM
SPOILER:

Closure?  What closure?  Girl dies, both guys might die or not (we never know), and we have no clue what happened in the other main House vs Government plot.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Spriggan on May 11, 2006, 02:28:09 PM
Probably becasue they were thinking of making a sequal.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on May 11, 2006, 04:15:38 PM
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I really like the ending of Flying Daggers, though I am increasingly aware that I'm one of the only people in the world who does.

I also like Iron Monkey; it's actually on my "to buy" list, which isn't very large. It's so far removed from the others we're discussing as to be in a different genre, but I thought it was fun.


I, too,  love "House of Flying Daggers," but I have to admit certain faults. I actually enjoyed it more than "Hero."

And I have to agree that "Iron Monkey" is really not the same genre, but it was merketed as such, and therefore I felt it worth mentioning, plus I wanted the excuse to talk about how much I HATED HATED HATED HATED HATED IT!!!

Actually, you hit on part on why I hated it so much -  I went expected something more in the genre we are talking about. Even then, when I realized that it was more of "Zorro" or Super Hero type of thing, I tried to go with it, but the writing and acting were just beyond awful, and it was not well directed at all.

"The Promise" in some ways is a different genre as well, but they are all marketed the same in America.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on May 12, 2006, 10:02:05 AM
Well, they're all Chinese, right? Doesn't that make them the same?
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on May 13, 2006, 10:24:55 AM
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Well, they're all Chinese, right? Doesn't that make them the same?


Yes - after all, American movies, such as "The Fast and The Furious" and "Driving Miss Daisy" are basically the same movie.  (Yes, I note the sarcasm in your post, but I was aumsed by it.).  ;D
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on May 15, 2006, 09:24:19 AM
The Fast and the Furious and Driving Miss Daisy both had cars in them right? Doesn't that make them the same?
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Fellfrosch on May 15, 2006, 08:17:43 PM
All those American movies are about cars. And all Chinese movies are about artistic violence, and all German movies are about depression, and all French movies are about sex, and all Mexican movies are about wrestlers.
Title: Re: review: The Promise
Post by: Entsuropi on May 15, 2006, 08:28:05 PM
And British movies are about crime.

Wait, that ones true...