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Title: best magic system
Post by: echigo109 on November 15, 2008, 01:01:57 AM
hey the poll is just for me to see what the popularity of the different magic systems
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: echigo109 on November 15, 2008, 01:06:50 AM
i was thinking what is the best magic system ( of warbreaker, Elantris, and mistborn trilogy) i personally like the allomancy because it seems the most powerful (alfa readers please don't spoil it for the rest of us with books that the rest of us haven't read)
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: CthulhuKefka on November 15, 2008, 04:39:05 AM
Hard to choose just one, since they are all awesome.

I picked Feruchemy. Always liked how it was described and how it could be played out. Yes, there are times I wish I could store up weightlessness and just float down the side of a cliff.  ;)
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 15, 2008, 05:32:37 AM
Of those, I have to say awakening.  I dunno, there's just something about the whole thing -- the appeal of color being drawn, and the cool breaths, and the seeing and everything that just makes it so cool.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: CthulhuKefka on November 15, 2008, 05:49:33 AM
Of those, I have to say awakening.  I dunno, there's just something about the whole thing -- the appeal of color being drawn, and the cool breaths, and the seeing and everything that just makes it so cool.

Awakening is definitely a close second for me. The originality of it is amazing.  :)
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: Miyabi on November 15, 2008, 07:42:17 AM
Of those, I have to say awakening.  I dunno, there's just something about the whole thing -- the appeal of color being drawn, and the cool breaths, and the seeing and everything that just makes it so cool.
Rit. . . .

I mean Awakening is cool.

Note: You're missing Occulary and Talents. :]
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: echigo109 on November 15, 2008, 04:24:37 PM
i didn't put occular or talents on because well i didn't know them i've only read mistborn trilogy, warbreaker, and Elantris but if you want other magic systems in i will put them but please don't tell me how they work
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: Dangerbutton on November 15, 2008, 05:17:15 PM
It was a hard choice for me between Allomancy and Feruchemy. However, you didn't see Feruchemy used very often, so when it was, it was sort of a rare treat. And, it was very creative how it was used in combat. So, I went with Feruchemy. However, Allomancy was still pretty much level with it.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: CthulhuKefka on November 15, 2008, 06:07:01 PM
Awww I can't change my vote. I want to vote for Talents!  :D
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: little wilson on November 15, 2008, 06:26:25 PM
I went with Allomancy, simply because if I could choose what I would want to be, it would be an Allomancer...Actually, I was walking around school the other day, and I imagined myself burning steel and iron and jumping from place to place. It was kind of cool, if a little crazy.

I also think Feruchemy's pretty cool, and Awakening seems pretty sweet too--I haven't read all of Warbreaker though, so I don't know a whole lot about it yet. Perhaps I'll wish I could change my vote when I finish....
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: Reaves on November 15, 2008, 07:18:44 PM
For me it would either be allomancy or Aon Dor.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: Chaos on November 16, 2008, 03:11:31 AM
Allomancy. Brass and Zinc would be so much fun...
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: little wilson on November 16, 2008, 05:30:18 AM
Allomancy. Brass and Zinc would be so much fun...
True. Oddly, I seem to overlook the usefulness of emotional allomancy, and focus more on the physical metals (probably because it's easier for me to imagine). But as fun as jumping around, being able to hold my own--and better--in a fight, and having enhanced senses, it doesn't really compare with manipulating the emotions. It would be quite entertaining to find out how much I could influence others without their noticing....
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: Rhaego on November 16, 2008, 05:58:28 AM
Hemalurgy won for me. You get Feurochemy and Allomacy, an extended life-time, B.A. spikes, virually unlimited strength and speed, etc.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: echigo109 on November 16, 2008, 04:26:08 PM
Hard to choose just one, since they are all awesome.

I picked Feruchemy. Always liked how it was described and how it could be played out. Yes, there are times I wish I could store up weightlessness and just float down the side of a cliff.  ;)
technically you wouldn't store weightlessness you would store weight and become weightless
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: CthulhuKefka on November 16, 2008, 06:24:37 PM
Hard to choose just one, since they are all awesome.

I picked Feruchemy. Always liked how it was described and how it could be played out. Yes, there are times I wish I could store up weightlessness and just float down the side of a cliff.  ;)
technically you wouldn't store weightlessness you would store weight and become weightless

Well yeah, but you know what I meant.  :D

I just think the possibilities are too great for me too pass up Feruchemy. Plus it helps a person work on self-control, what with having to sacrifice things in order to gain more. I like that.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: Comatose on November 17, 2008, 02:07:48 AM
I really like allomancy, thus I had to chose it, but Awakening and Aon Dor are cool too, as for The Jindoese version of Dor, the dor itself  is from Duladel Jesker belief, I think, you might want to correct that.
I always thought it would be cool to see someone use emotional allomancy during a fight, making your opponent more fearful, less confident, more fatigued, it would probably give you quite an advantage.
MINOR MISTBORN BOOK 1 SPOILER
Also, at the end of book 1, Kar says somethign about the Inquisitors feel pain, different pains for different emotions, so if you rioted all their emotions at once, maybe they would feel so much pain, they could be temporarily disabled or distracted, just something I thought of.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: Plasman on November 17, 2008, 03:15:30 AM
Feruchemy kicks butt. I've said this a few times already on here, but a fully charged and battle trained Feruchemist could kick all but the supercharged versions of the other magic systems (God King Awakener, Mist-fueled Vin, etc...)

An kinda funny/cool/weird idea just popped into my head though. What would happen if Grandpa Smedry faced off against Sazed?
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: happyman on November 17, 2008, 08:11:19 PM
Hemalurgy won for me. You get Feurochemy and Allomacy, an extended life-time, B.A. spikes, virually unlimited strength and speed, etc.

You also get to be a mass-murderer or a victim.  Sorry, but pass.

However, if I had to choose, I would definitely choose being both an Allomancer and a Feruchemist.  That's just awesome.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: MrPaperCamel on November 17, 2008, 08:54:46 PM
Feurochemy just seemed so interesting to me. And could be very subtle and unsuspecting. Allomancy was so new and fresh and vibrant when I read through Mistborn, but feurochemy just has that mysterious quality about it that makes me question, 'What can't I do with it?'
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: little wilson on November 17, 2008, 11:12:54 PM
However, if I had to choose, I would definitely choose being both an Allomancer and a Feruchemist.  That's just awesome.

So something like what Brandon mentioned for the next trilogy? I'm pretty sure he mentioned that Allomancy would be down to just Mistings, and that Feruchemy would've become something similar to Mistings, and it would be possible for a person to have access to one power from each system.....Or are you referring to the Lord Ruler?

Either way, it would be pretty cool....And now that I've finished Warbreaker, I have to say that I still go for Allomancy. Awakening is AWESOME, but it just doesn't beat the subtly and sweetness that is Allomancy. Personal opinion.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: GreenMonsta on November 18, 2008, 12:53:11 AM
I agree. This doesn't even take into account for the unknown metals. Imagine what they do added to what allomancy already is and the possabilities are endless.

Bottom line, I would pick allomancy because it would be fun. ;D
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: echigo109 on November 18, 2008, 02:08:25 AM
Feruchemy kicks butt. I've said this a few times already on here, but a fully charged and battle trained Feruchemist could kick all but the supercharged versions of the other magic systems (God King Awakener, Mist-fueled Vin, etc...)

An kinda funny/cool/weird idea just popped into my head though. What would happen if Grandpa Smedry faced off against Sazed?

Atium, enough said
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 18, 2008, 05:01:30 AM
Yes, but he's ALWAYS late for appointments, so the atium would so where he would be from being late, he could counter that.  It almost seems like it would give you an atium shadow.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: KindaChang on November 18, 2008, 08:48:13 AM
I like awakening the most.

Also, I want to see a Dakhor monk fight a Mistborn 1 Steel Inquisitor.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: darxbane on November 18, 2008, 03:21:04 PM
I would have to go with Allomancy.  I like the physical enhancements it grants, not too many magic systems make the user into a super assassin.  Feruchemy is more practical, but I just know I would either forget to store abilities or just be too impatient.  Awakening is very cool, but forces you to rely on objects to do the work for you, and the rules are strict.  As for Aon Dor, I would need stencils.  That gives me a great idea for fan fiction.  An Elantrian with strong access to the Dor who is hampered by the complete inability to draw a straight line.  I'll let you writer types play with that one.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: little wilson on November 18, 2008, 05:07:06 PM
That's one of the main reasons I didn't go with Feruchemy. It's cool, but you have to keep up with the storing. I would forget--no doubt in my mind. Or I wouldn't store enough.

And that's also a good point about the Awakening--it is very strict. It's cool that it clearly has bounds, because it's a lot easier to understand as a reader. Yet to imagine having it....Not all commands work. You lose Breath on commands that don't work, if you're in a fight and you're unable to get them back. It would be cool to test to discover more commands, but in a fight, Allomancy is more practical. Both require precision, yet Allomancy is simpler in theory. And not everyone can be an Allomancer, whereas anyone can be an Awakener if they know the right commands (and have the Breath).

And I really need to finish Elantris. I started it last year, but then I went home and left my book for my dad to read and I still haven't finished it....Only got three chapters in, too. That first Hrathin chapter slowed me down....
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: happyman on November 19, 2008, 12:06:47 AM
However, if I had to choose, I would definitely choose being both an Allomancer and a Feruchemist.  That's just awesome.

So something like what Brandon mentioned for the next trilogy? I'm pretty sure he mentioned that Allomancy would be down to just Mistings, and that Feruchemy would've become something similar to Mistings, and it would be possible for a person to have access to one power from each system.....Or are you referring to the Lord Ruler?

Either way, it would be pretty cool....And now that I've finished Warbreaker, I have to say that I still go for Allomancy. Awakening is AWESOME, but it just doesn't beat the subtly and sweetness that is Allomancy. Personal opinion.

I meant having the full range of abilities from both Feruchemy and Allomancy and being able to use them, like the Lord Ruler.  The indefinite life extension is amazing (assuming there is Atium or its replacement around), the healing abilities would be simply awesome, and you could fight like nobody's business, using pewter, strength and allomantically enhanced speed at the same time.  So, yeah.  Kind of like an inquisitor, but without the "I killed twenty people to get like this and now I look like a monster" vibe.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: echigo109 on November 19, 2008, 01:22:26 AM
Yes, but he's ALWAYS late for appointments, so the atium would so where he would be from being late, he could counter that.  It almost seems like it would give you an atium shadow.
when i said atium enough said i was talking about how you said a feurochemist could beat an allomancer
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: Plasman on November 19, 2008, 02:11:06 AM
yes, allomancers have atium and that would give them a great advantage, HOWEVER i must point out that atium is not perfect.  it has its weaknesses as Vin shows us. and there are some things u can't escape even when seeing the future. feruchemists have the potential to access the powers of the Flash, the Hulk, Wolverine, and have super senses albiet for a limited period of time.  i'll even suggest that feruchemists have access to an atium-like power with zinc and storing mental speed. i'm sticking with feruchemy
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: achren99 on November 21, 2008, 09:06:13 PM
One thing I really like about Awakening is that ANYONE can become an awakener.  It's not just an accident of birth.  Of course, you have to steal from other people...

I picked Feruchemy because it feels like something I can control more.  I put more effort in, I get the rewards later--never having to worry about running out of a metal supplier or something.  I also would like to be able to store so much knowledge.  If I actually had to choose between becoming a Feruchamist and an Allomancer--*yeesh* I don't know what I'd do.  They'd both be fabulous. 
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: Wielder on November 21, 2008, 11:45:54 PM
One thing I really like about Awakening is that ANYONE can become an awakener.  It's not just an accident of birth.  Of course, you have to steal from other people...


That's what I really liked about Awakening.  I liked Alomancy the most (though, Hemuralgy was straight up awesome).  But the Awakeners were so cool.

Vasher+Nightblood is so freaking awesome.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: trytoguess on November 22, 2008, 06:51:45 AM
I'll take Feruchemy. The ability to store memory is far too tempting. And the ability to store health and age would (paradoxically maybe) help me live longer, or just better at the very least.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: Wielder on November 22, 2008, 06:07:15 PM
I'll take Feruchemy. The ability to store memory is far too tempting. And the ability to store health and age would (paradoxically maybe) help me live longer, or just better at the very least.

Yeah, the ability to store memory would be awesome.  As a scholar, that does indeed interest me.  Who says I don't have Kwaan's fabled memory, though.    ;)  I'm cheating.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: Natalie Perkins on November 27, 2008, 02:42:38 AM
- - POTENTIAL SPOILER ALERT (HOA) - -
No question in my mind, Allomancy. While the others our cool, they just don't compare in my mind. When I think of Allomancy, I think of the fight with Vin at the end of HoA... literally, awesome. Maybe, I'm crazy power mad and overly violent, but, I'm sorry; buildings collapsing is cool.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: GreenMonsta on November 27, 2008, 02:47:33 PM
I would agree but most mistborn couldn't achieve that feat.
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: hoid354 on December 17, 2008, 03:22:49 AM
I voted for allomancy, partly because i know the most about it. I'm now thinking i would change it to Talents. It would be awesome to have an excuse for being late and stuff! ;D
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: zas678 on December 18, 2008, 05:34:35 AM
Awww I can't change my vote. I want to vote for Talents!  :D

Me too!

My Talent would be remembering random facts of information! Oh wait, I already have that talent......

But the Atium-Grandpa Smedry fight seems cool.The Atium would see a future Grandpa.... and Grandpa would take FOREVER getting to that future. He might even be able to put on a lense on the way....

Zas
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: Comatose on December 21, 2008, 04:50:14 AM
I rememberd the name of the jindoese form of the Dor, it's called Clay Shan (sp?)
Title: Re: best magic system
Post by: hoid354 on December 22, 2008, 03:27:05 AM
Chay Shan, i believe (i'm trying to convert my friend, he has my copy of elantris). Talents are awesome though! I want to change my vote too! My talent would be forgetting things  ;D (i dont think that would help in any way, at all)