Timewaster's Guide Archive
General => Rants and Stuff => Topic started by: Mad Dr Jeffe on May 03, 2004, 07:50:04 AM
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Its my short week so monday is friday for me.... even more so since I have tomorrow and wednesday off.
Wrap your heads around that one, cause I still havent...
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Get drunk!
Its Bank Holiday Monday here. Or may day, one of the two. Anyway, its a day off. For the postal workers. DAmnit, i want my City of Heroes game now!
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Psh, not like you actualy have a Job Entropy. Every day is your Holiday ya bumb.
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I know, thats the annoying thing. I have all this spare time, and my damn MMORPG has not arrived yet!
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hahaha! Maybe if you got a job you wouldn't have all this "horrible" free time!
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So I think Im going to get some sleep.... and then maybe go into DC and see some sights or something....
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Ug. If you want to waste some time, try using a free Netzero dial-up account. It took me about ten minutes to get an email sent off through Yahoo Mail.
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Actually I dont want to waste a lot of time this week.
I just want to unwind.
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Not a happy monday. I have my AP history test hanging over my head, and I had three freakin hours of AP history final today.. I need to pass this thing or I don't get my college credit, and that would make me sad. Plus a huge chem assignment and a large chem test tommorow, and an algebra test on thursday. Monday is the start of a very bad school week...
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heh, one day you'll wish you had that much time with people again
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With people? I dislike people in general... not to mention there is a lack of speaking in all these events... so it's really just "in the basic viscinity of people"....
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You know I was just talking with a collegue the other day about how antisocial people have become.
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/me goes stir crazy!
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It's not that I am anti social, I don't mind talking with people. It's just that a lot of people today don't have the vocabulary to string a sentance together... And I don't like dealing with that, so I don't...
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part of getting through life is dealing with people you dont like.
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I understand this, but if I don't HAVE to deal with them why would I? I can deal with them if I have to but I wont just out of charity...
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I say deal with as many people as possible, ya never know what you'll find...
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I think I used to think that way a lot when I was younger. Then I realized that (for me) it was a very prideful way of thinking, putting myself above other people. Sometimes when you're in a situation in which people frustrate you, you just have to meet them on their level and recognize different kinds of intelligence. It's amazing the things you can learn about life when you ask people about themselves, allowing the conversation to be more about their interests than your own.
And then, sometimes, you just have to endure until you're able to move yourself to a place where you're surrounded by people who are more likely to meet you on your own level, like going to college or moving to a large city where people are more likely to be educated. And sometimes it's just good to spend more time alone developing your own talents if you recognize your frustration and know that you can't remedy it right away.
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yeah, once you start thinking your superior to other people (unless, of course, you're me) you kinda well, show you suck. isolating yourself because other people annoy you shows a distinct lack of socialization ability. Sure, youc an keep the annoyed feeling in check, but if it's there, it's goign to keep coming back. I'd suggest learnign to get over it.
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/me feels depressed.
You just described me exactly, SE.
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I just described a LOT of people. It's ok to prefer being alone frequently, and everyone has an ego, so there's a LITTLE bit of this condescention, but when it starts being a major factor and motivator in your social habits, that's an issue.
I just think that if you truly believe you're better than other people to the point where you won't interact with them because of it you're losing your humanity.
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Yeah, well, I do not have a lack in social skills, and should I I believe I would become very unhappy. I have gotten to an area where I have enough people I like around (to the point where names are sometimes hard to remember) and have friends in all areas of our insignificant schools little society, and therefor not only don't want to deal with more people, but don't have to. If I ever need to become more sociable again, I can, which is good enough for me. But for now, I can be annoyed with people and it has little to no effect on my social standings as anyone I care about I already am friends with.
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note that my theory has nothing to do with social standing. Some of the biggest misanthropes in the world have "high social standing" or popularity.
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Alright, well popularity isn't really what I meant there, I didn't word it well... What I meant is by "social standing" is my friends who I already have don't care if I ignore the rest of the people in the viscinity so I, for right now anyway, don't have to worry about having to make new friends since I have a friendship with everyone I care about having a friendship with.
Which means I can go and Ignore everyone who I don't get along with and it wont effect my friendships at all, meaning it wont effect me in a negative light.
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actually, that's not too far off from what I thought.
now, I'm not saying I'm any better.
But it seems to me that we'd be better off caring about all those people. no, not caring what they think about our clothes and stuff. But caring about them. Worrying about their lives as human beings and stuff. you may be comfortable with your attitudes, but where I have similar ones, I am very uncomfortable with them. That is, I'm just fine ignoring and writing people off, but thinking about that attitude makes me think I'm not the superior human that attitude tries to project.
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I can see your point, respectfully, but I give most people a chance before I decide they aren't worth my time, so I relly don't feel too bad about it. At all. Not to mention the morons which I am surrounded by at my school has literally killed off any hope for our future or any compassion for stupid life I had at any point in time. Honestly, generations get more and more stupid with less and less thinking. It makes me sad to know our future is in my generations hands...
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see, that's the problem, you're too negative and pessimistic. Doesn't the fact that we've made it so many eons indicate to you at all that mankind can overcome the foibles of adolescence? it's not like teens are all that differetn now than they've ever been
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okay now you're just being punative.
I dont care how stupid or mean or obnoxious people are all I care about are morals, if they have even the slightest set of morals I give a crap about how they're doing, if they say "hi" I'll say it back even if I don't know them or don't like them, If you treat people nicely and with endless compassion and patience they will do the same, that's what made jesus so likeable.
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First of all, yeah, I see your point, uh, again, SE. But by statistics teens are getting progressively stupider, more than 70% of my class (2006) is failing at least one class and the freshman this year (2007) have over 75%. So you can see how I am worried.
TFO, I am not a religous person. To me, Jesus was just another man, if you can even prove he existed. So Jesus being likeable is not something you can prove to me. Maybe he was a stumbling drunk (by the way no offense to religous persons here, I am just not) and no one would know because there is no way to prove it. History can and will become smudged over time.
And endless compassion is crap. I used to be very compassionate. For a long time. It has faded and the result had no change on people's opinions (like I care) of me or actions towards me. So don't give me endless compassion is the solution, because it isn't. Although ignoring society isn't a great solution either, but it is working for now...
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for now
imagine if you will once you have finished college and ypu have to deal with people for whatever job you may have, it doesnt matter if you had compassion, you have to keep it up otherwise when you're out in the real world, nobody's gonna want to work woth you.
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even if you're nto religious, the historical veracity of a significant rabbi living in Palestine named "Jesus" who hailed from Nazareth if fairly well established historically.
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Yeah, but whether or not he was a nice and/or moral rabbi cannot really be determined. He could have been a demi god of kindness or he could have been a scamming bumbling drunkard pig who was pristeigous due to an underground crime organization cannot really be determined. Histrory smudges, so you can't ever really tell... whether or not you think you can...
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jesus didnt really have anything to do with my point...it was just sort of a comment.
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for now
imagine if you will once you have finished college and ypu have to deal with people for whatever job you may have, it doesnt matter if you had compassion,
If I ever need to become more sociable again, I can, which is good enough for me.
Sorry, but pay attention. I can become sociable should I need to be, I know this because I remain sociable with my friends and/or people I haven't already met and decided whether or not I like. So my not being sociable right now isn't a huge issue for me.
nobody's gonna want to work woth you.
part of getting through life is dealing with people you dont like.
Well, if I didn't have the social skills to be liked in the real world, people would obviously have to deal. That's part of life, TFO, and if everyone liked everyone else it wouldn't be.
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that's an awfully self-centered veiw
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I am just trying to disprove your earlier point. Yes, that is a self centered view. Yes, that is probably at least 75% of our great nation's population's view as well. I don't require a view like that because I can adjust to people in a professional setting should I need to. But if I couldn't, which I could, people would have to deal with it. I am not saying that is how I think of people, I am saying if I couldn't end up dealing with people, which I can and will, in a professional setting they would have to deal with it like I have to deal with them. Cause if I can't deal with them very well I obviously don't like them back in this hypothetical situation.
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all I'm sayin is just be nice to people and they will be nice to you, maybe not instantaeneously, but they will warm up to you.
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actually, Gorgon, I believe you missed Jeffe and TFO's point. No one thinks the world or even your immediate environs will grind to a halt if you failt to display more compassionate tendencies. We're all just saying that YOU will be a better person, and probably a happier one, if you do it.
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SILENCE SQUABBLING CHILDREN!
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Its like this commercial for a bank I saw the other day.
A Husband and Wife are looking for a home, in a Goldilocksian way (this one has too loud a neighborhood, this one has a train running through the back yard etc.)
It ends with them in a house where the neighbors are looking in the back window to see whos buying the house and the voiceover "And as soon as they move in, they're going to build a nice big fence."
I knew what they were trying to say, but it came out in a way that was like, why bother knowing your neighbors when you can lock yourself in your home....
I guess it bugs me because its kind of unsouthern, and inhuman. After all we're social, or we're supposed to be at least. Personally I love having people over.... Love it, and I love being a host.
Im bothered that you think everyones stupid because they dont do well in school.
Lots of people do poorly in school, and always have.
School is not a measure of how much a person knows, or what they can accomplish.
My dad always told me that there are two kind of people those who pass school and flunk life and those who flunk school and pass life.
Coming from him it meant a lot. In highschool he wasnt the brightest guy
maybe he still isn't, but dang he has a way with people.
Somehow he graduated highschool and got into Old Dominion University (because his grades werent good enough for the school he wanted to go to) and he got a bachelors degree, and then failed a lot of classes when he was going for a masters... a lot of classes. And then he and John Mccains brother (yeah John Mccain the congressman) stole a firetruck from Norfolk Navy base got arrested and sent to Vietnam....
Best thing that ever happened to him, after one tour with the Green Berets he went to flight school, then advanced flight school and then back to Vietnam and he stayed in the Army. He found himself.
But he was almost 25 when all of that happend, meaning you dont have to find yourself at 15, or be perfect in school or life or whatever.
Im just saying dont build a fence because some kids dont have it figured out yet.
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that is exactly what I've been trying to tell, you and your dad have a great life philosophy.
I too love playing the host, I kinda like to do things for people rather than have things done for me by people. I hang out with about five different groups of people at lunch, most of em started the year hating each other, but I've found that if you keep putting them in the same place they sorta intermingle and become one very large group(with which I will eventually conquer the quad) and frankkly If I'm going somewhere with freinds(or without) I just invite everybody who seems interested or who I know will have a good time.
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I heard a story once, and I wish I could find the source (if any of the Mormons on the board could find the conference talk I'm referring to, I think it was a short Seventy talk within the last 5 years). (Short as in short time, not short Seventy.)
Anyway, so this farmer is digging post holes in his field and this family drives by. They stop, talk to him for a little while, and then ask him about the town up ahead, for they're looking for a house.
"What kind of people live there?" they ask him.
"Well, what kind of people live where you live?" he replied.
"Oh, they're so mean, vindictive, and back-biting. That's why we're moving."
The farmer shook his head and replied, "Well, you'll find the same sort here."
A few days later another family stopped and asked him the same question, as they were also house-hunting. He again replied with the same question, "What kind of people live where you live now?"
"Oh, they're the most wonderful neighbors and friends!" they exclaimed. "We love them so dearly and will miss them when we move."
"Well then," the farmer replied, "you'll find the same sort here."
--We find the kind of qualities in people that we want to find. Sure, there are a few jerks out there, but I'd venture to guess there are a lot fewer than we think.