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Reading Excuses / Re: June 28 - Renoard - Redmantle Chapter 1b
« on: June 29, 2010, 01:48:44 AM »
Can you point out the contradictions.  Obviously if I saw them I'd have not made them. :P

hmmmm the dialogue is supposed to be the markedly plain speech of the 1620's, rather than Shakespearian flora.  Modern English but not too modern.  I'm drawing on my memory of Hawthorne and Mather.  Again any specific anomalies you can point out would be helpful.

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Reading Excuses / Re: June 28 - Renoard - Redmantle Chapter 1b
« on: June 28, 2010, 09:55:06 PM »
Ah Comatose,

Edgar vs Philip is a product of having more than 20 significant characters and not proofreading well enough.  All the Philip references amount to typos of Edgar's name.  Philip shouldn't show up until much later, he's the Kaiser's son and heir.  One reason for the screw up is that I intend to contrast these two characters.  How they each deal with issues of loss and matters of legacy.

The [H] in the last paragraph of the funeral scene should be Edgar as Well. The [J] in the later text should be Claud and the [Z3] is Ian.  I can resend individually if anyone would rather have those fixes in place before critique.

@Comatose
To help me better understand, I'm curious as to why you think it was a good choice to make it vague as to how much time had passed between Se'amus' funeral and the engagement party.  It felt organic to me and I didn't put a lot of thought into it, so I'd like to hear yours.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: How did you find out about Brandon Sanderson?
« on: June 28, 2010, 01:02:41 PM »
Interestingly my city library has three campuses and they've disposed of every copy of Sanderson's work.  They never purchased Mistborn, so we're talking about Elantris and the Alcatraz books.

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Reading Excuses / June 28 - Renoard - Redmantle Chapter 1b
« on: June 28, 2010, 11:31:25 AM »
This is the second half of the chapter and deals with events across the Straits of Kumberland.

A Duke dies and his family try to cope.

If you didn't get it and need to, send me an email. (RE members only of course)

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: June 28, 2010, 11:01:11 AM »
I hope it isn't too late to ask, but I'd like to submit the second half of chapter 1 today.  Not meaning to be pushy, I'll go ahead and try sending it If you don't get it and want to message me.  If I'm jumping the gun and Silk pours wrath upon my head, then wait till next week to review it. :P

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Reading Excuses / Re: June 23 - Silk - Fall, Stars, Fall - L
« on: June 27, 2010, 10:40:07 AM »
Okayyyyy.

It must have been really late last night, because my rationale for electric lights is not remotely based on your text here.

Of course the prose is clean and well spoken which I've come to expect from you. Nothing remarkable there.

One particular timing problem is that Braeden seems to approach Aryl to discuss his trip.  She manipulates him into studying, he goes inside to read and while he's reading Janna shows up certain that Aryl has been gone for weeks.

As prologue to a novel it would work pretty well, but as a short story is lacks a real plot arc.

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Reading Excuses / Re: June 23 - Silk - Fall, Stars, Fall - L
« on: June 26, 2010, 01:06:14 PM »
Sorry to take so long.  Not ready to comment yet.  I had to clear my palate and I'll need to reread.  But one comment, in a world with such a dramatic magic system and such a developed elite, it seems that electric lights in the 18'th century isn't so very far fetched.  After all, Rome had running water, flush toilets and drycleaners.  Who knows what might have happened differently in a world where people could be resculpted into super-soldiers?  There might have been no need for Charles Martell and Frances greatest gift to the world, 800 years of crippling war.

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: June 26, 2010, 12:47:00 PM »
Since someone co-opted my copy of "Alice" and "Through the Looking Glass" I'm about to start Stevenson's Treasure Island.

Looking forward to more SpecuFic, but I'm very selective in that dept.  Waiting on Madeline Howard's next, as well as Karen Miller's.  Of course the next installment of WoT is anticipated, ambivalently.

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Reading Excuses / Re: June 21 - Comatose - Riverlord (Chapter 2)
« on: June 26, 2010, 12:35:44 PM »
Personally, in your position I think I'd consider rewriting the early chapters with an eye toward improving characterization and setting.  Since you are further along I'd assume your spent some time getting to know the characters and settings better.  If you tweak the chapters a bit before submitting you might find that you have a lot more to say this time.

I did a good deal more than copyedits, but I put them into comments.  I guess you are not using a word compatible word processor so they didn't show up.  But I was trying to provide examples rather than tamper with your text.

Since you are a lit major let me make a suggestion.  look at your early chapters with an eye toward formal criticism.  Take a pass as a structuralist, and another as a reader response critic.  Try doing the same with Martin, though his style is atypical for the genre.  I really think Raymond Feist's simple accessible style could help you a lot.  Christopher Stasheff could help too.  It's not that they are literary giants, but they exhibit the kind of simple, transparent prose that avoids distracting the reader from the plot and setting.  If Scifi is more your taste, try Ben Bova or Robert Heinlein.

Intentionally applying the skills you've developed in your college career will go a long way toward cracking the mystery of how these writers do what they do.

I'm not sure that creative writing classes are a plus.  I think some of the best writer's take the approach of reverse engineering.  That is to say they decide what they would like a critique to read like then write a text that fits the critique. :P  That may seem vague but it really is the best way I can put it.

For the record, my typos and grammatical issues drive Canadians to distraction.  Or, so I've heard. :P

I think the two that bugged me most were the repetitive use of the same word in too close proximity.  For instance the over use of the term, "Hand Signs."  It seemed far to formal, as if the characters were not comfortable and familiar with their own discipline and had no slang or more general terms available.  Another was the complicated runons at the bottom of page five.

For the record I believe that you came up with your system independently, you probably have similar influences to Sanderson and Co.  But since he's already out there, and your particular variation looks a lot like material from the Airbender movie, you'll need to further personalize your system.  Give it some functional elements that distinguish it immediately for the reader.

As for the windmilling, try substituting dramatic intensity in place of speed and motion.  One ofthe most dramatic scene's in film is the duel between the young braggart with the daikatana and the old Ronin with his wooden stick.  It is in Kurasawa's Seven Samurai.  When the braggart will not admit to being beaten, the Ronin switches to a live blade and very fast, very smoothly kills the young one.  One thing that makes the old man's technique so dramatic is the smooth economy of motion and the simple poise of his attack.  No flailing or cut and thrust, he simply draws and resheaths his sword.  That sort of simple elegance would go further than physical intensity in making your characters frightening and powerful.

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Reading Excuses / Re: June 21 - Comatose - Riverlord (Chapter 2)
« on: June 25, 2010, 12:16:09 AM »
Okay.  I didn't see chapter one so I'm coming  in a bit later.  However this would have done for a chapter one in most stories, even a prologue.  I hate to write a critique like this, but I have to be honest.

First off.  My general impression was that I just didn't care for this story.  I found the relationships far too conventional and the characters were mostly too flat and lifeless.  They didn't react or argue in a way that I found believable and they were too inclined to talk first and act later.  They didn't react to death with the sort of empathy or disdain that makes people human.

Secondly I found the grammar, general use of language and general tone to be a real barrier to hearing the story.  Sever clusters of multiple clause runons made picking my way through portions of the text tedious.
Awkward constructions abounded.  And the use of terms like hand signs without any slang or derivative terms was overly formal and pedantic.

Thirdly I found the fire and water powers to be suspiciously derivative of Allomancy.  Borrowing a system or thematic element that easily recognizable is a bold move and you have to be able to improve on it or use it in a way that makes the reader feel that your own version is fresh and distinct, or faithfully accurate.  This was neither.  My this is cheesy alarm went off immediately when someone started pulling or pushing water.

That said there are unique elements and ideas here.  The use of hand signs and the limitations based on time of day was in itself a nice touch, if it had been better developed and divorced from the allomancy.  Of course this failed once Adam started windmilling like an anime character in order to make a high velocity stream.

The martial arts sparring was a good element but again derivative of DBZ and Airbender, however it was handled well at first.  The fact that the Water Aurok NEARLY won because of tactical thinking was good but needed more attention.

The idea of an Allomancy that is based on Hermetical Elements instead of alloys and elements  --an Elemancy I guess-- could be the core of a good system.  And even pushing and pulling work, but you really need to decide on pull-push or somatics and really develop the choreography before trying to sculpt a battle scene.

My best advice is to start doing book reports on the top novels out there.  Pick up a book on literary criticism and start dissecting the speech patterns, scene descriptions and characterizations of successful authors.  I'd say don't use authors who started publishing after 1995.  Not because they won't be great but because you want those who have been consistently successful for more than a decade.  (e.g. Feist, Jordan, L'Engle, Eddings and one or two authors from the 19'th century.  Mark Twain is a good choice)

Continue writing this novel, but try to bear in mind how each character thinks.  Try to separate that from yourself, and try to make the thinking and speech patterns of the characters match the character's personality instead of your own.  Remember, your narrator is one of your characters too.

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Everything Else / Re: ARE YOU WATCHING WIMBLEDON!?!?!?!
« on: June 24, 2010, 10:45:56 PM »
If I had any of the voyeuristic tendency that cause people to want to watch sports events they are not currently playing in, it would be World Cup not effete little people knocking a birdy or a ball back and forth across a net. :P

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Writing Group / Re: Writing Prompts!
« on: June 24, 2010, 10:41:05 PM »
Naw, Howard killed it. I saw him. Yeah. That's the ticket!

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: June 24, 2010, 10:36:10 PM »
Fair warning, if you can't tolerate rape and incest in the context of fiction, don't read Donaldson.  It's not gratuitous, but it is impossible to avoid.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Your Background
« on: June 24, 2010, 10:32:05 PM »
I on the other hand never lie.  It's just the missing pieces that confuse the audience. :P

Hey Kirk.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: June 24, 2010, 10:29:50 PM »
For the record the issues I had long ago were before the list existed.  I was trying to BCC and couldn't send that many emails at once.  I created a list serve at that time, on my own server and used that until I went inactive.  When RE list was created I was not put on it.  I asked to be a nd began to receive submissions but was unable to send. I only tried again this week and found that I still could not send to RE so my submission was individually mailed or bcc'd to a handful of members.

The issue with the listserv is the fact that the RE domain is parked and aliased on top of TWG.  The typical means for handling this is to create an "MX" record that aliases the mail domain as well.  This acts as a big forwarder.  If the target email adress, in this case all@RE is in turn a listserv and in some cases a forwarding alias, it is not capable of responding to certain verification requests that are built into certain email servers.

SOOOOO when the email comes in with a request for verification, the target email (being both a list and behind at least on forwarded MX) is not capable of giving a meanigful replay to the verification request and the server where the list resides (in this case mail.TWG)  reports that the list (all) which is IN it's own database doesn't exist as a valid email and bounces the incoming email.

At least that's the set of conditions I've seen this happen on before.

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