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Title: The Rage
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on May 28, 2004, 10:15:01 AM
article reference: http://www.timewastersguide.com/view.php?id=754

heh, I just have to say, Stacer, that this quote is wonderful:
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"Evil and psychotic dragons are taking over the world, so we must defend our lives" is as good a reason as any to slaughter large numbers of fictional evil cultists. Besides, some of those were zombies anyway.


Anyway, you gave this book a better review than I expected. Maybe I'm just jaded when it comes to these, but when I read the back about a half-golem/half-person, it set off bells that said "gimmick to make the character unique, no real content." I'm glad to see that I was disappointed and I didn't inflict too much horror on you, Stacer.

anyway, I've got a small pile of novels that are the second or third in a series here. Let me know if you want any. I've decided that I don't want to review them. I think it's not fair to the book to give it a review out of context like that when so many of them are obviously dependent on reading the whole series
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: stacer on May 28, 2004, 10:22:32 AM
I have to admit, I tore it apart at first. But it took me a couple weeks to finish the review, and after allowing it to simmer for a while, I realized it didn't scar me quite so badly as it could have. It wasn't boring--it just wasn't outstanding.

I'll have to tell you what I think of reading 2nd or 3rd books in series after I read the other one you've already sent me.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on May 28, 2004, 12:12:46 PM
was it a Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance setting?  In the review the top says former, bottom says latter.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on May 28, 2004, 12:29:00 PM
Forgotten Realms. I apologize for not catching the error. I suspect that Stacer was just copying my review for The Search for Power, which IS a DragonLance novel.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: stacer on May 28, 2004, 12:30:04 PM
Yeah, sorry. I was using his format, and it was late at night...
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: House of Mustard on May 28, 2004, 12:49:39 PM
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I realized it didn't scar me quite so badly as it could have


Lol.  That's a pretty backhanded compliment.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: stacer on May 28, 2004, 01:10:34 PM
Maybe you should use that for your cover blurb.  :D
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on May 28, 2004, 01:10:39 PM
No need to apologize; I just pointed it out to keep us looking as sharp and presentable as we can be.

"Many hands make for lighter work," or something proverbial like that.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: EUOL on May 28, 2004, 04:41:05 PM
(Sigh.)  I used to LOVE these kinds of books when I was a teenager.  I started with Tolkien, Donaldson, and McCaffery.  How did I end up in TSR's intellect-sucking embrace?
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: Spriggan on May 28, 2004, 04:55:10 PM
Because there actualy were a few good TSR books (the original drizzit and dragon lance books) and after reading them and saying "they're not that bad" you move onto others and get consumed by crappyness.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on May 28, 2004, 05:16:46 PM
You were probably roleplaying while you were reading these books, right?  It all about crossover - your gaming experiences resonated with the gaming-based books and at that time that was really cool for you, I'm guessing.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: EUOL on June 01, 2004, 12:26:09 AM
So, Morag and I had lunch with a WotC Dragonlance novelist on Saturday (actually, kind of by accident--we were going out to lunch with Dave, and Dan kinda got sucked in as we were out searching for a place to eat.)

Learned some interesting things about WotC publishing.  Just a warning--if you're planning to sell to them and make a living at it...well...good luck.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: Spriggan on June 01, 2004, 02:43:15 AM
And how come said Dragonlance novelist isn't comming to the boards EUOL?  You are the one that want the published writers to outnumber the editors, have you been derilect in your deuties?
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: EUOL on June 01, 2004, 03:50:55 AM
lol.  You think I'd admit to my writer friends that I associate with you people?  Come on, a man's gotta have SOME self respect....
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 01, 2004, 07:52:25 AM
plus uh... then the writers might see how I treat their books. Then, they may throw poop at me.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: Spriggan on June 01, 2004, 09:22:50 AM
Actualy you kinda have reveiw something from him, he had a short story in the Search for Power: Dragons from the War of Souls anthology that you reviewed.  I think he's Dan Willis who wrote "Lake of Death".
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 01, 2004, 10:07:01 AM
oh, I liked the talking Donkey. Go ahead, invite him over. I said nice things.

edit: I remember, it wasn't a talking donkey. It was just a really smart and manipulative one.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: Fellfrosch on June 01, 2004, 08:48:48 PM
Does sending you bad novels in the first place count as throwing poop at you? Because if it does, the worst is over and you have nothing more to fear.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: EUOL on June 01, 2004, 11:18:50 PM
lol.  We'll, I'll be curious to see how his actual novel is, since it doesn't come out until August.  We'll probably get a copy, but it's third in a series.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 02, 2004, 07:40:55 AM
well, I've been trying to get my contact over there to update some info. She says she's going to have her assistant do it, but the assistant never calls me back.

WotC has me listed as wanting novels for TLE. Since I'm not longer at TLE that's not good. Plus, I'd really like RPG stuff as well. And I've also establihed a policy that I, personally, will not review any second or third parts unless I've read first parts. I don't think it's fair to the novel. And Wizards isn't responding to that. I'm getting a growing collection of D&D novels that will remain unread
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: EUOL on June 03, 2004, 02:14:00 AM
I will point out that D&D books seem like they are designed, especially the newer ones, so that they can be read out-of-order.  
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: Spriggan on June 03, 2004, 04:06:44 AM
If you ever get anything from Weis & Hickmann I'll take them. Heck if you can get me the recent reprinting of the original Dragonlance novels in hardback I'd be a very happy Spriggan.  Their doing the war of twins now http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dlnovel/965460000
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 03, 2004, 07:45:41 AM
The problem, EUOL, is that I've tried reading them out of order, and there are major problems that i'm willing to blame on not being the first book. It's like that the new policy is to write ONE long novel, then break it into three parts.
Title: Re: The Rage
Post by: EUOL on June 03, 2004, 05:07:17 PM
Hum.  Well, if you've tried it and it doesn't work, then you're probably right.  I withdraw my point.