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Title: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on July 18, 2004, 06:41:19 PM
Okay, so, sit back for a kind of strange story.

Apparently, while I was on vacation a week ago, someone left a gift on my doorstep.  It was a little goldfish in a bowl, along with a colorful note that said something like "Brandon, my name is Paul.  I need someone to take care of me."  (I think it was a little longer, with a bit of a story, but that is the gist of it.)  There was an email address at the bottom.

Well, I live with three other bachelors.  I was out of town for a week, so they brought in the fish, but it died a couple days later.  The note got misplaced, and when I got back a week later, no one thought to tell me about the incident.  I didn't find out until a week after that.

So, what should I make of this?  Our inclinations are to think that some young lady was trying to get my attention.  
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 18, 2004, 07:24:35 PM
Since you live in Utah, your guess is probably right.

You could always have the bishop make an announcement.  "And would the person who left Paul at 400 N. 1800 W. please contact the recipient as he has lost your email address."
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 18, 2004, 07:28:34 PM
she's too subtle. Of course, she'll never get bolder if she doesn't know it died. All in all, I think that's a week way to get attention.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on July 18, 2004, 08:00:59 PM
I think it wasn't very week at all. I think it very clever. And Fuzzy, love the address, 400 North by 1800 West.

Then again EUOL, it could have been marked. And been trained to kill you on site. So maybe it was better that it is now, dead?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 18, 2004, 08:07:56 PM
Gemm, that's how addresses work in most parts of Utah. The streets are on a grid here, so most street names are acutally numbers, followed by north, south, east or west.  But I'm glad you were amused.  I was too lazy to look up his real address.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Slant on July 18, 2004, 08:21:14 PM
I'm not sure of what to make of it, but it DOES sound kinda fishy.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Entsuropi on July 18, 2004, 08:41:35 PM
Utah addresses sound dull.

And thats rather demented. Maybe she wanted to see if you could manage to keep it alive? Some sort of obscure test of commitment etc.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 18, 2004, 08:44:35 PM
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Utah addresses sound dull.


That's as may be, but it makes finding things much easier.  You can go to a city you've never been to before and find a place with just the address.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on July 18, 2004, 09:04:54 PM
I think it wasn't week at all. A Month way of getting attention, even a year way, but not a week way.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 18, 2004, 09:10:01 PM
I vote for a fortnight.

Actually, hmmm. How long did it take his roomates to tell him?  
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on July 18, 2004, 09:21:57 PM
Well, I emailed the address (as best my roommates could remember it.)  We'll see if I get a response.  Honestly, I think it's a kind of strange way to get ahold of someone.  Perhaps I'm getting old, but I prefer bluntness.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Entsuropi on July 18, 2004, 09:29:35 PM
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Perhaps I'm getting old, but I prefer bluntness.


Getting?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 18, 2004, 09:39:07 PM
twas lame, face it. I mean. Here's an anonymous fish, email me! Oh, and I didn't even bother to check if you were in town.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on July 18, 2004, 09:42:26 PM
what bad timing!

If it were me, well, I would probably be very interested in discovering who sent me the fish. I'd be displeased with the roommates for their negligence, and express said displeasure to them. (Not so much about the fish but the email thing.) And I'd do whatever it took to find out who the person was.

Yes I agree that a direct approach would be much better, but any (honest) approach I'd generally consider better than none.

But since it's not me in this situation...well, what are the odds that someone who uses a goldfish approach has a Ph.D.?

(and Gemm, fyi: 400 N. 1800 W. would be a bit off; usually it would be more like 401 N. 1800 W. or 452 N. 1800 W.; actually they're likely to say "No." instead of "N." for North. 1800 West would be the street; 401 would be the address of the building. 401 would be on the corner of streets 1800 West and 400 North; 452 would be halfway down the block of 1800 West, between the streets 400 North and 500 North. Sometimes 400 North is called 4th North, and 1800 West called 18th West.

I think that system works better than the (lack of a) system in most cities.)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: stacer on July 18, 2004, 10:53:17 PM
Wow, EUOL. Sounds like a typical Utah secret admirer, but I agree--the direct approach is the best. Not necessarily that she should ask you out, but that she should show her interest in person by talking to you and suggesting possible activities. But that would be so... ordinary.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: 42 on July 19, 2004, 02:55:10 AM
I don't think it has anything to do with a young lady. It's probably some kid in the neighborhood, or a kid who knows someone who knows you. The kid probably found out they couldn't keep the fish for whatever reason and decided to leave it on your doorstep.

Using a fish to meet someone is just dorky. I doubt Paul agreed to be used that way.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 19, 2004, 11:15:33 AM
I admit it: the fish was from me.  I just get so star struck around famous people -- especially authors.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: stacer on July 19, 2004, 12:46:46 PM
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Using a fish to meet someone is just dorky. I doubt Paul agreed to be used that way.


Some say "I love you" with flowers, others with fish.  
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Tage on July 19, 2004, 12:54:24 PM
I'd like to add, in my defense, I was also out of town that weekend and heard about the fish the same time EUOL did.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on July 19, 2004, 06:44:45 PM
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If it were me, well, I would probably be very interested in discovering who sent me the fish. I'd be displeased with the roommates for their negligence, and express said displeasure to them. (Not so much about the fish but the email thing.) And I'd do whatever it took to find out who the person was.


Yes, I wasn't annoyed.  These are a bunch of bachelors, and an entire week passed.  I would have forgotten too.  

It is amusing, however.  Apparently, our AC broke while I was away and one of our roommates went away to Chicago the day before I got back.  No one told me these things either, and when I finally asked Tage about them several days later, he gave me a 'Are you an idiot?' look (he's good at those) and said 'Well, duh.  Of course it's hot.  The AC is broken.  No, Earl isn't going to fix it yet--he's in Chicago.  Don't you pay attention?'
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Tage on July 19, 2004, 07:03:10 PM
See now, since I was gone, then you were gone, then Earl went to Chicago, I think we can squarely place all blame on Micah. Clearly he's the only one left.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on July 19, 2004, 07:05:24 PM
Hum.  Good point.  I second the motion.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on July 23, 2004, 09:58:56 AM
I've been refished.

After receiving several very uninformative emails from the phantom person, I received a betta in a bowl on my doorstep last night.

So, the hunt is on!  Let's work on this, my brainy forum-going friends.  How do we locate this person who thinks themself so clever?

What we know:
*  We have 3 emails.  Two with IP addresses traced back to BYU, one with an IP traced to "Utah Comcast."
*  Two of the emails were sent right around 5:00 pm (both from BYU.)  Getting out of class at 4:50, perhaps?  Or, does the person work on BYU campus, and is checking their email before they leave work?
* The last email was sent at 2:30am on a Friday morning.  Obviously, the person is a night-owl.  They also may not have to rise very early on Fridays.

* We have two 'notes' given by the person.  Both printed by an inkjet printer.  One was attached to a colorful bit of scrapbooking-style paper, and was in the form of a perfect limerick (with a comma error corrected in blue pen.)  An English major, perhaps?
* We have one betta fish, named Roy, who has so far been decidedly closed-mouthed about his origins.
* His bowl had half of a sticky barcode on it, the only legible letters saying "ng Company" with a trademark symbol after it.  (Might be an mg--or something else.  The first letter is torn in half.)
* The second note, titled "An Elegy for Paul," talks about the fish that died.  In it, the author genders herself as a 'girl.'  There is a photograph, assumedly of Paul, at the bottom of the note.  He's sitting in his bowl on a white table, with some indiscernible objects behind it.  The photograph has "Kodak Inkjet Paper" written on the back, but it looks just like a regular glossy photo.

* The person is at least internet savvy enough to set up a dummy Yahoo account.  They may not know, however, that IP's can be traced.  Anyone have any idea if we could get a specific address/terminal from one of these numbers?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 23, 2004, 10:15:36 AM
my theory is one of your CW students stalking you.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Spriggan on July 23, 2004, 11:45:03 AM
if it's from BYU I don't think you'll be ever able to track down a specific terminal.  Usealy the ISP's are randomly assained.  BUT, you do know Devin who, as you might remember, works for BYU's IT services.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on July 23, 2004, 11:54:14 AM
Oooo....

Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 23, 2004, 11:59:33 AM
Dex Online lists 11 pet stores in Provo and surrounding areas, none of which has the word "Company" in the title.

There are, however, two "Trading Companies" close to BYU -- Chao's Trading Company (Oriental Goods), and Florida Keys Trading Company (I don't know what they sell).
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 23, 2004, 12:02:05 PM
I don't know that this will help us track them down. Unlike in cop shows, most proprieters aren't going to remember everyone who came in to buy a fish bowl.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Spriggan on July 23, 2004, 12:11:06 PM
They would if we told them we we're from a cop show.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 23, 2004, 12:13:56 PM
Sorry.  Not being in Provo, looking things up on dexonline is the best I can do.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Tage on July 23, 2004, 12:41:38 PM
All of the BYU computers use DHCP to assign the computer IPs, which means each computer can have a slightly different IP each time it's turned on. However, every department in BYU uses a different IP address block. So if you have two IP addresses, and someone with a pretty good knowledge of BYU's current setup, you could pretty easily figure out at least what room they were sent from.

Admittedly, I'd bet that both came from a public computer lab. What was the IP address of the Comcast one?

Also, the first place I'd look for similar fishbowls is one of the dollar stores around town. Not that finding it will really help you.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on July 23, 2004, 01:08:16 PM
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I've been refished.


So that's what that smell is...

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After receiving several very uninformative emails from the phantom person...


Could we see these e-mails?

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*  We have 3 emails.  Two with IP addresses traced back to BYU, one with an IP traced to "Utah Comcast."
*  Two of the emails were sent right around 5:00 pm (both from BYU.)  Getting out of class at 4:50, perhaps?  Or, does the person work on BYU campus, and is checking their email before they leave work?


Or is it a student with an early afternoon class that stayed after to study, or the likes?  It would make sense, since then they would be able to be in a library, or the likes, and E-mail you while they studied or after they finished.  I don't think that they would be thinking about IP tracing to the point that they hang out at the school just to E-Mail you...

It could also be that they work at a campus store, or something (Does BYU have things like that?  MSU does, so I am going off that...)

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* We have two 'notes' given by the person.  Both printed by an inkjet printer.  


Technically we only have one, you roomates destroyed/lost the other one, right?

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* We have one betta fish, named Roy, who has so far been decidedly closed-mouthed about his origins.


I would suggest kill the fish.  It is, after all, just a fish, and in the occurance of it's death, you will be recieving more e-mails, and probably another note and another fish.  Just make it look like an accident.  Or, you know, if you wanna be 'nice' about it, you could just SAY the fish died...

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* His bowl had half of a sticky barcode on it, the only legible letters saying "ng Company" with a trademark symbol after it.  (Might be an mg--or something else.  The first letter is torn in half.)


Honestly, this informaton is worthless unless you are going to go to the companies HoM listed and see what the price is for a fishbowl that brand and size.  Then we could tell if this was a student or not, probably.  No student (unless she is rich) could afford a great fish bowl on the grounds of stalking a proffesor...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 23, 2004, 01:18:41 PM
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Honestly, this informaton is worthless unless you are going to go to the companies HoM listed and see what the price is for a fishbowl that brand and size.  Then we could tell if this was a student or not, probably.  No student (unless she is rich) could afford a great fish bowl on the grounds of stalking a proffesor...

You just don't appreciate what sorts of sacrifices must be made to stalk a professor successfully.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Entsuropi on July 23, 2004, 01:45:27 PM
Guys, have sense. Somehow this person knows that fish number 1 died. Therefore, it's someone who either was told about it by EUOL, or was told about it by someone who was told about it by EUOL (boy, that was a fun sentance to type). Plus, the notes/emails seem to be reacting to EUOL's conclusions on the matter.

Best guess : one of EUOL's co-workers. Though they would know about him being away, we assume, and as such put paul in without you being there on purpose.

I call prank. And/or Illuminati influence and mind controlling.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 23, 2004, 01:53:05 PM
Good point.  Could this girl read the forum?  Any way to compare IP addresses that way?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on July 23, 2004, 03:17:09 PM
Well, we would need to figure out her forum name, assuming she has one.  If not, then she is coming in as a guest...

And, also, I was under the impression EUOL told this girl the fish died via e-mail.  Hence I suggested you e-mail her again saying this fish is dead.  Was I incorrect in this...?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 23, 2004, 03:28:15 PM
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Well, we would need to figure out her forum name, assuming she has one.  If not, then she is coming in as a guest...


I think we know who all the girls on the forum are.  I was thinking more of a lurker.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Spriggan on July 23, 2004, 03:45:03 PM
and considering the only females on the TWG board that live in Utah are married that would be very strange situation.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 23, 2004, 03:46:00 PM
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Guys, have sense. Somehow this person knows that fish number 1 died. Therefore, it's someone who either was told about it by EUOL, or was told about it by someone who was told about it by EUOL (boy, that was a fun sentance to type). Plus, the notes/emails seem to be reacting to EUOL's conclusions on the matter.

Uhm... how about this method of learning about the dead fish?
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Well, I emailed the address (as best my roommates could remember it.)  We'll see if I get a response.  Honestly, I think it's a kind of strange way to get ahold of someone.  Perhaps I'm getting old, but I prefer bluntness.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Entsuropi on July 23, 2004, 04:47:57 PM
Like I said, Illuminati mind control.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Eagle Prince on July 23, 2004, 05:59:19 PM
So if you have a book signing, can I get my fish bowl autographed? ;D
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on July 23, 2004, 09:10:12 PM
Doesn't Urchin or squid or whatever it's called log the IP of all forum visitors?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on July 23, 2004, 09:27:42 PM
So I gather you've tried sending emails to the person, asking who they are etc.  I gather you've also tried asking them to meet?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 23, 2004, 10:14:08 PM
I'm going to forbid all of you who post to that fish thread to post if you don't read the dang thread
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on July 23, 2004, 10:33:30 PM
I know EUOL recieved "several uninformative emails" from Ms. Fish,  I was trying to clarify what exactly was in them.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on July 24, 2004, 04:20:18 AM
I'm not in favor of going to any lengths to discover the identity of someone who doesn't want to reveal herself.

You could try selling the fish...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: stacer on July 26, 2004, 02:56:59 AM
Okay, okay, I admit it. I'm stalking you, EUOL. I'm not really in Illinois right now. I'm sitting on an Orem curb, in front of your house, watching you.

Every breath you take, every move you make, every cake you bake...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on July 26, 2004, 03:24:27 AM
lol.  

I keep meaning to respond to this thread--but there's so much to react to.  I'll give a couple here, then get to some more later.  

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My theory is one of your CW students stalking you.


I'm leaning toward this option too.  Supporting this idea: the first fish showed up the first week of July.  Isn't that when Summer term began at BYU?  She could have been away for spring term, which is why she waited so long to look me up.


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Could we see these e-mails?


Hum.  Here is a sampling:


Brandon Sanderson wrote:
Paul, I'm afraid, passed on. I never even got to meet
him.

Who is this?

Brandon


Fishless Wrote:
Poor Paul has perished?  That's a tragedy.  

Who do you think this is?

Fishless

Brandon Sanderson wrote:
I'm sure Paul's perfectly peaceful in paradise at the
moment.

You ask who I think it is? With the note lost and
Paul himself sleeping--pardon the pun--with the
fishes, I have few clues.

Perhaps a hint is in order?

Brandon


Fishless Wrote:
Brandon,

Perhaps a clue is in order....

Check your doorstep recently?

Fishless
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And that's where I got the second fish.

Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on July 26, 2004, 06:04:41 AM
Hm.  Have you had any emails/emailed the person at all, since you got the second fish?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Spriggan on July 26, 2004, 07:21:57 AM
I think the new fish needs to die in a misterious way, then we can set up security cameras to watch for the culpret when she drops off a new one.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on July 26, 2004, 07:30:54 AM
You know, I was thinking more a cloud-erious way...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Brenna on July 26, 2004, 06:55:58 PM
You know, I don't think the girl is stalking Brandon.  I think she just thinks it's funny, and thought he'd be a person who was just quirky enough to play along.

I mean, seriously, what kind of person stalks with a fish?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Spriggan on July 26, 2004, 07:05:19 PM
this man:

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/jabba/muppets/figures/SeriesIII/lewzealand/LewZealand003b.gif
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Brenna on July 26, 2004, 07:17:03 PM
Okay, *besides* that muppet.  ::)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on July 26, 2004, 07:24:48 PM
I believe, as one stalker to another, that if attention is trying to be got then one could go to great lengths to get it. And it could also be one of your collegueges (hah, that word escapes my mind so I have funly spelled it) playing a(an) joke(s) on you. So, like a cowboy (with rinestones), call them out and have a duel. Or just meet in a crowded populated area. Like those church subdirectories you have.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 26, 2004, 07:57:01 PM
I like the camera idea.

Borrow someone's webcam, point it at the porch and email the person saying your fish is lonely.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on July 26, 2004, 09:08:41 PM
This email just came:

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Brandon,

By the way, if you attempt to euthanize my (your) poor innocent unsuspecting fish in an effort to find out who I am through video surveillance, I will know.  I have my ways.  

And no, no matter what your friends say, I am not stalking you.

Fishfraid


Cover's blown, guys.  
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on July 26, 2004, 09:16:42 PM
lol, that is both awesome (or awe-inspiring) and errily creepy. Obviously they visit the boards. So it could be someone here, you know, like 42 or Spriggan. Those who you know and who know you. Now would be an excellent time to be that rinestone cowboy I talked about.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on July 26, 2004, 09:31:01 PM
So did you email them back asking them what they *were* doing, if not stalking?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on July 26, 2004, 09:33:45 PM
Part of my purpose in posting on the TWG was to see if anything said here ended up reflecting back in Ms. Fish's emails.  Knowledge about this site is limited, and if I got the hint that she was reading the thread, then I would know something very important.

I wasn't expecting her to be so straightforward in giving me the knowledge, however.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on July 26, 2004, 09:50:08 PM
When you say "covers blown" do you mean hers, ours, or yours?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on July 26, 2004, 10:20:48 PM
I think you should kill the fish and eat it.  This will accomplish nothing, of course, but I would find it amusing.  Yes, kill the fish and then eat it.

S/he is coming here, and *not* stalking you (which is his/her way of saying "I am stalking you and don't want you to think I am stalking you  ;D")  So, therefor, everything said here is in his/er knowledge.  S/he's like the man.  Screw the man.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on July 27, 2004, 12:57:03 AM
The term 'stalking,' I've found, depends largely upon the feelings of the one receiving the attention.  So far, I don't mind.  This experience has been amusing.


Ours, Gemm.  I just wanted to wark you that she was watching.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on July 27, 2004, 02:50:48 AM
it's...remotely...possible that she came to that conclusion on her own... >_>
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 27, 2004, 07:46:25 AM
well, none of our regular posters in Provo are both single and female.

Which leaves us with a few (disturbing) options:
the least disturbing: she's lurking. Or else someone who is regular is telling her what's going on.
she's not a she (eek!)
or also not truly disturbing: she's not flirting
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Entsuropi on July 27, 2004, 08:22:20 AM
Maybe she is a member of TLE? I get the impression TWG is well known there.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Spriggan on July 27, 2004, 08:23:45 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if one of the local gals here are involved in some way.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on July 27, 2004, 08:47:03 AM
I forget: was there any evidence it wasn't a TWGer playing a trick?

I don't trust you lot.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 27, 2004, 09:23:42 AM
there's no evidence against that idea, JP. I kind of agree.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 27, 2004, 10:07:25 AM
I'd like to state for the record that I'm too busy to buy food, let alone stalk EUOL with fish, especially since his house is half an hour away.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Brenna on July 27, 2004, 11:04:29 AM
Actually, not many people (any more) know about TWG at TLE.  Fuzzy, me, my husband, and Dravner are the only ones who ever really visit the site, though one or two others know about it. Everyone else that was involved with TWG and TLE moved away/stopped coming regularly.

Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on July 27, 2004, 04:19:19 PM
Today, I was gifted with Sweedish fish on my doorstep.

Say what you will about the rest of this--at least I got some random food out of the deal.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 27, 2004, 04:27:22 PM
If this fish person is reading the forums, why didn't she notice when you said:

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Honestly, I think it's a kind of strange way to get ahold of someone.  Perhaps I'm getting old, but I prefer bluntness.


However, I say capitalize: see if you can get her to bring you a steak dinner or something.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 27, 2004, 04:42:32 PM
FIsh steak!

anyway, if she read that, it's quite possible, as I said, that she's not flirting. Just... being weird.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 27, 2004, 04:48:28 PM
Maybe we should bad-mouth her a lot and totally alienate her, and thereby render EUOL fishless.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 27, 2004, 05:05:26 PM
that would be mean and cruel. Let's do it.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Brenna on July 27, 2004, 05:48:07 PM
Um...no. Besides, she's a really nice person (or at least seems that way--I like it when people give *me* candy).
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Entsuropi on July 27, 2004, 07:26:44 PM
There is candy, and then there is fish.

:|
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 27, 2004, 07:43:48 PM
Then there is fish candy.

I think if she keeps it up she might get written into a novel some day and that would rock for her, er, whoever she is.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on July 27, 2004, 07:44:32 PM
Surely, HoM, you're more honorable than to bad-mouth a lady.  (Even a potentially weird one.)  


And, not just candy.  Swedish Fish.  That's far better than just 'candy.'
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Entsuropi on July 27, 2004, 07:46:12 PM
While I could understand you being excited if a swedish woman was given to you, I am confused as to why a fish from sweden (which has much the same fish as Britain to the best of my knowledge) is so interesting.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 27, 2004, 08:55:46 PM
/me falls over

Cultural glitch?  Swedish fish are a tasty gummi candy, shaped like red fish.   Very very tasty.

Actually, they kind of taste like jelly babies.


http://www.famousfoods.com/c-swed.html
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Entsuropi on July 27, 2004, 09:01:08 PM
Never even heard of those, and I eat a lot of sweets. Must be an American thing. And I could not find Malaco in the CIA's world database (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/). Strange.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 28, 2004, 11:01:02 AM
I don't know if this is where swedish fish are from, but there is a city called Malaco in Mozambique.  (Which is also where John Kerry's weird wife is from.)

I think I was misunderstood about my bad-mouthing comment.  I was refering to the post directly before mine, where SE said she was "Just... being weird."  I have no intent of alienating anyone.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 28, 2004, 11:24:34 AM
so *I'm* alienating her, you're saying. I'm just calling what I'm seeing. Sounds a bit "fishy" to me, y'know. But don't worry if it doesn't work out EUOL, there are plenty of fish in the sea.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 28, 2004, 11:39:54 AM
Well, I meant it as a joke.  Perhaps I should have added a smiley.   ;D

But, I'm glad your offended.  Just because.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 28, 2004, 11:43:43 AM
/me smacks House of Mustard around a bit with a wet trout.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 28, 2004, 11:49:58 AM
House of Mustard shoots Ehlers in the head.  With a gun.


That'll teach him.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 28, 2004, 12:10:29 PM
nah, I have a billion clones like the emperor. Here, have another fish.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Entsuropi on July 28, 2004, 04:17:05 PM
Episode 3: Attack of the Sainty-san's.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 28, 2004, 05:35:14 PM
For the record I would just like to say that I feel neither alienated, nor insulted.  
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 28, 2004, 05:47:37 PM
Well, we'll have to try harder.

Welcome to the board.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 28, 2004, 05:49:37 PM
By the way, MsFish, feel free to post to the Introduce Yourself thread, under the Site News section.



It's worth a shot...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 28, 2004, 05:51:10 PM
Nice try.   ;D
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Tage on July 28, 2004, 07:22:53 PM
At least she's got a good sense of humor. Notice that, in her profile, she's a student of deception.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on July 28, 2004, 09:09:25 PM
Only one question, which you will no doubt not answer:

If you're not stalking EUOL, then what *are* you doing? Or are you just obsessed with him and fish?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 28, 2004, 09:54:23 PM
Whyever wouldn't I answer?  

I'm not stalking anyone.  It's only stalking if the person tells you to leave them alone.  

I'm not obsessed...just random.  Randomness is the spice of life, I say.  Just ask anyone who knows me.   ;D
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on July 28, 2004, 09:59:22 PM
Like who? Care to give us any idea?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 28, 2004, 10:05:15 PM
Once again, nice try.   ::)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 28, 2004, 10:12:49 PM
well, if you're interested in him, you'll have to be revealed eventually. At last you will have your revenge! (sorry, little star wars coming in there).

I think you're just teasing us. Seeing as we're a bunch of nerds, that's fairly easy. But still.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on July 28, 2004, 10:16:13 PM
What was the point of your coming on here if you're not going to tell us *anything*?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 28, 2004, 10:17:53 PM
well, we know you use BYU computer labs. Since the pattern of your IP logs shows you going back and forth between different computers. Perhaps one in your residence if you live on campus. But we already guessed that. We want soemthing meatier.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on July 28, 2004, 10:20:55 PM
Right. First off, the board logs IPs. So I did a bit of looking around.

Ms. Fish's first and third post use the same IP. She's posting from somewhere with a static IP. I know this, since the second post comes from a different IP on the same block. These posts are close together, so obviously she's moving between computers on the same site.

The last post has a weird assignment IP at the front, which I've seen when I post from my own university, on the stricter security settings.

All the IPs conform to BYU. So, Ms. Fish, we know you are a BYU student or similar, with access to the computer labs there. But we already guessed this. I can quite clearly state that we now know for sure.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on July 28, 2004, 10:36:12 PM
Fascinating.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 28, 2004, 10:37:05 PM
Me?  Tease you?  Never.

I believe I had already admitted to being a BYU student.  But then, I don't think you knew that...so I'll forgive you.  
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on July 28, 2004, 10:43:10 PM
And back to computer 2 she goes...

You must either get a lot of exercise walking back and forth, Ms. Fish, or just enjoy login screens.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 28, 2004, 10:47:27 PM
This is kinda fun.  I feel like Sandra Bullock on "The Net."  I assume, though, that if you finally find me you aren't planning on killing me.  *crosses fingers*
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 28, 2004, 10:50:32 PM
SilENCE! GEEK DETECTIVE WORK IN PROGRESS!

er... I mean... well, you hadn't told US.

So we know you study ENglish and/or literature at BYU.

You won't tell us how you know Brandon (though i'm still in the camp that thinks you're a student, I'm being converted to a different belief).

So, how is it that you know Brenna/Kristy?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 28, 2004, 11:29:08 PM
Good question!

Problem is Brenna is one of those amazingly social people who knows like half of the BYU student body.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on July 29, 2004, 12:14:47 AM
I say we threaten to torture the fish until he talks or she gives us some useful information.  Yes, torture....
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on July 29, 2004, 12:40:46 AM
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I say we threaten to torture the fish until he talks or she gives us some useful information.  Yes, torture....


Sounds like bad fish karma.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 29, 2004, 12:54:55 AM
Oh!  No, please no bad fish karma.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 02:06:26 AM
Back away from the fish!   >:( ;D

And who's Brenna, anyway?  What makes you think I know her?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on July 29, 2004, 03:54:09 AM
Hm.  You don't know who Brenna is.  That suggests you haven't been coming to the forum for that long, even as a guest.  So how did you find out about the forum anyway?

And y'know, the more you don't tell us anything, the more we feel like torturing/killing you...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on July 29, 2004, 04:23:15 AM
I vote she googled Brandon Sanderson.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 07:30:34 AM
Brenna is Kristy, and we know you know her because she told us you were nice. (or at least, that's how I'm interpreting it to get more info out of you)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 29, 2004, 09:46:55 AM
I would surmise from the Introductions page that the appearance of Old One relates to the appearance of MsFish, and we know Old One knows Brenna...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Brenna on July 29, 2004, 11:09:28 AM
Ah, but I told Old One about the site a while ago, and just finally convinced her to log in once I'd amused her with stories of what was happening with this thread. So the two are only slightly connected. :)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 29, 2004, 11:35:31 AM
So says you.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 12:16:54 PM
yes, JP and I established that intentional evidence from Brenna and OldOne could not be trusted, as we believe either one or the other or both to be involved directly in the affair.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Tage on July 29, 2004, 12:29:09 PM
In related news, I actually saw Ms Fish last night. She dropped off some goldfish crackers with the old 'ring the doorbell and run' technique, only she didn't run fast enough, and I got a glimpse of her getting into the passenger side of a small getaway truck.

Not that I could pick her out of a crowd now or anything. It was pretty dark.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 12:52:15 PM
Time to set up the web cam.

What sort of truck was it?
Title: "smRe: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 02:32:01 PM
Tage, if you had looked closely, you would have realized that there were four of us in the "small get-away truck" (which happened to be a car).  The doorbell ditcher would have been my roommate, who couldn't stand the fact that I was just going to leave the fish on the doorstep and go--without alerting anyone to their presence.  If you'd been watching you also would have seen my other roomie, running around the street collecting real estate flyers (I had to persuade her not to steal the "for sale" sign across the street.)  
Then there was the driver, a friend of mine who decided to back down the street with the doors open.  I was in the front seat.  I suppose you are the one I saw pick up the goldfish, but like you said, it was dark.  

What can I say?  We're all mad here.

Is this the kind of info y'all were looking for?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 29, 2004, 02:41:18 PM
You know, BYU students are special.  Most college students would require alcohol to perform such a stunt.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 02:56:27 PM
so, Ms. Fish. How long have you and Old One been room mates? (or, *gasp* the same person?!)

Don't evade the question, I'm pretty confident this is the case, as I have strong circumstantial evidence indicating it is so. Either that or one of you had the other over last night for a late evening.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 29, 2004, 03:07:49 PM
/me falls over laughing
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Tage on July 29, 2004, 03:08:43 PM
I swear I saw a small truck. Oh well, I must not have been looking very closely. All I can say is, next time you and your roommates better run faster.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 03:08:51 PM
/me makes a note: fuzzyoctopus in on it all. That makes a trio. Or possibly a quartet if old one is truly someone different.

anyway, if it's not the case, then tell me which computer lab old one was at last night.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 03:10:17 PM
Honestly now--

Old one and I are not roommates, nor are we the same person (that I know of, at least).  Perhaps I should let you know that yesterday when I was skipping computers, I never used the same computer twice--though you seem to have tracked me to the same IP addresses.  Perhaps Old One is also using the computer labs, so it looks like we're roommates.  

Heck, I'll even give you my roommates names: it's Chrissy and Andrea.

And we BYU students ARE special.  There's nothing like a midnight stealth mission to get a good natural high.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 29, 2004, 03:13:03 PM
Yes, I believe I know who Ms. Fish is.  
I also know who Old One is, and they are definitely two different people, as Old One is married with 3 mischevious sons who would make it difficult for her to jaunt off to Orem whenever she feels like it.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 03:13:58 PM
Hey fuzzy, thanks for keeping my cover.  You rock.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 03:15:45 PM
I find it hard to believe that you coincidentally did that. There are only 3 labs open on campus at the hour Old One posted last night. So, it's possible. but whether I'm wrong or not, I still got more information out of you all.

I do *not* believe you didn't use the same computer twice.

Let this be a lesson. Trust no woman! They're all in it together against us. JP, sick 'em!
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 03:17:38 PM
Believe what you want.  In my opinion, the most amusing thing about all this is that I haven't lied to a single one of you yet...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 03:19:47 PM
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Believe what you want.  In my opinion, the most amusing thing about all this is that I lied to a single one of you yet...

AH HA! so you admit to deceit!
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 29, 2004, 03:20:58 PM
Saint, what amuses me is that you're not even in Utah anymore.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Brenna on July 29, 2004, 03:21:07 PM
Yes, Ms. Fish is *definitely* not Old One.  Old one lives in Wymount, in the next quad over from me.  I promise. As a matter of fact, Old One's four-year-old calls me "the Mighty Princess."  I love Old One's four-year-old! :)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 03:21:52 PM
Typo.  I mean't to say "I HAVEN'T lied to a single one of you yet."  Otherwise, why would I structure the sentence that way?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 03:22:43 PM
yeah, if I was, JP would have me running from lab to lab so we can establish which lab has which IP block so we can narrow down her patterns and directions on campus.

Even if EUOL hasn't responded lately, it at least amuses two geeks on the forum. Although, one is a non-member in Australia and the other is married, so neither presents potential dating possibilities.


And see, that still means something's "fishy" about the whole affair, girls. If she doesn't have time for midnight raids, then why is Old One posting at 11:30 PM from an IP address that is used by Ms. Fish later? OO either had Ms. Fish over today, or was off at a computer lab (the Wymount one not being open that late) at that hour, leaving her available to run around at that hour. The latter leaves a whole in the "not able to run around" story Fuzzy gave, the previous proving a closer connection.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 03:23:24 PM
Dating possibilities?  What do you take me for?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 29, 2004, 03:24:03 PM
A typical BYU co-ed, apparently.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 03:26:28 PM
I take you for someone flirting with Brandon Sanderson, that is all. You've later demonstrated yourself to be a BYU student and a bit of an odd fish.

None of which is bad. We just like prying into secrets. It's the latent hacker in us.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 03:34:37 PM
Are you calling me a typical BYU coed--or just saying that's what they take me for?  I've never considered myself typical...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 03:37:05 PM
no one ever considers themselves typical.

Most people consider themselves beyond the experience of other people. Most people are wrong in that, but it doesnt' mean they aren't atypical.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 03:38:26 PM
true that
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 29, 2004, 03:40:14 PM
I was just saying that one of the only things he knows about you is that you're a female BYU student, and as a former BYU student, he knows that weird things like this- when done by most BYU co-eds- are attempts to ask someone on a date.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 03:40:24 PM
The lame thing about BYU is that you can't have any fun without people thinking you're hitting on them.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Brenna on July 29, 2004, 03:43:22 PM
But at least they usually don't think you're a psychotic serial killer or something, right? :)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 03:46:55 PM
Yeah, I suppose I'd rather be typed as desperate than deranged.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 03:50:45 PM
no one said desperate either. THough "low self esteem" rises to mind now :)

I'm sorry, but it *is* flirtatious. Maybe it's not seriously trying to start a relationship, but flirtatious, it definitely is.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 03:52:49 PM
Haha.  Fair enough. ;D
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 03:53:48 PM
So, anybody up for a hint?  This is getting kinda circular...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 29, 2004, 03:57:07 PM
See the problem is going to be that I don't think most of the board members know you.

I suppose a good hint would be to tell them why it is that they haven't met you.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 04:06:36 PM
Yeah, true.  I think everyone who's met me already knows the whole story.  (Or, parts of it at least.)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 04:26:17 PM
so uh.... yeah. about that hint. were you going to drop it?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 04:26:37 PM
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See the problem is going to be that I don't think most of the board members know you.




Yeah, cause I was too stupid to start coming to TLE three years ago when I should have.  [Note: that's NOT where I know Brandon from.]
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 29, 2004, 04:29:44 PM
It's their own fault for never stopping by TLE to visit.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Tage on July 29, 2004, 04:30:48 PM
Don't you want the old editors to leave you in peace? I would have thought having us keep visiting for 3 years after we graduated would be somewhat annoying.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on July 29, 2004, 04:52:45 PM
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And see, that still means something's "fishy" about the whole affair, girls. If she doesn't have time for midnight raids, then why is Old One posting at 11:30 PM from an IP address that is used by Ms. Fish later? OO either had Ms. Fish over today, or was off at a computer lab (the Wymount one not being open that late) at that hour, leaving her available to run around at that hour. The latter leaves a whole in the "not able to run around" story Fuzzy gave, the previous proving a closer connection.


Actually, SE, you forgot to convert your times.  While she was posting at 11:15 for everyone in the east, near Colorado, Utah, ect. she was actually posting at 9:15pm.  

Seeing as Fuzzy Octopus says that Old One has three offspring, on of which is four years old, it is safe to say that the rest of her children range from 2 years old to eight years old.  Old One's time being consumed by her chldren and whatever else, normally it would have been safe to say that she, in fact, did not have time to be out of the house.

However, her children being between 2 and 8, they would all be in bed by nine or ten, giving Old One the time to slip out of the house.  This would, in fact, give the opportunity to be posting out of the house, or have someone postin gin her house as the case may be, we don't really know.

So as of now, we have no real proof that Old One is, in fact, the fishy girl...

However, when I saw the Old One sign on the forum for the first time, I too thought that Old One could very well be Ms. Fish, so keep your eyes open for any other proof, since I do find it fishy (SE is rubbing off on me...) that an Old One is hanging out with a BYU student, so either Old One isn't old like they claim, or the fishy one isn't a student.  Or maybe they are related.  Just some food for thought.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Brenna on July 29, 2004, 04:57:57 PM
Ah, but Old One *is* a BYU student herself, you see.  So it wouldn't be very odd for her to spend time with another BYU student. And Old One's other two children are 2 and 6 years old.

Also, Old One and MsFish are *not* related.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 05:04:12 PM
no, it's not unusual for a parent to be at BYU. that's not what's fishy.

And I did convert, Gorgon. The time post for me on the East coast is 1:30. Which is 11: 30 in Utah.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 29, 2004, 05:04:37 PM
Not related, no, but Brenna and Old One are very good friends, and since Brenna seems to be in on the secret with Ms. Fish, it wouldn't suprise me if Old One had invited them over for some fun and girl talk one night.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on July 29, 2004, 05:07:33 PM
Pfft, SE, you're screwing up my nonsensual reasoning!  When I went back I saw an Old One post at 11:15 here, so I thought that is what you were talking aboot.  Now we are back to torturing the fish, which was my favoritre plan from the begggining...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 29, 2004, 05:14:16 PM
look at hte "sarah" thread. at first I thought those two posts were within 5 minutes, but it's actually 12 hrs, 5 min apart. I woulda had a better case if it was just 5 min. Then I would have them nailed. doh.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Onion of Death on July 29, 2004, 09:17:15 PM
I agree with Gorgon. We should have tortured the sea creature until it confessed.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 09:46:24 PM
Y'all are funny.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on July 29, 2004, 09:50:19 PM
1) I missed by oppurtunity to sick. Dang.

2) Just to clarify, I am an UNATTACHED non-member in Australia, for what it's worth.

3) All the recent posts have been made from the same IP in the same block. Seems our subject is now too lazy to switch computers.

4) Unless the BYU systems grab a new IP everytime you log onto the network (Unlikely, and I know what I'm talking about - I'm working in a uni lab as of this moment) and it grabbed the SAME IP as before (Further unlikely), Ms. Fish did indeed use the same system twice.

5) You Mormons are weird.

6) The weirder thing is, that I know people who would do something like that - one is an athiest, the other a Wiccan. Maybe just people in general are weird.

7) The hint was a dead giveaway. If I knew anything about TLE i'd probably be able to call your identity right now.

8) While we're in the mood for torturing see life, I say let's interrogate the Octopus.  Talking as someone playing a PI in a Cyberpunk game tomorrow, sometimes blunt straightforward methods get you the answers easiest.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 29, 2004, 09:52:58 PM
I'm not lazy, I'm working, and I don't feel like saving to a disk and switching computers every six minutes.  

Besides, it's not like any of you are circling the computer labs trying to find me. ;D
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on July 29, 2004, 09:54:52 PM
Now would be a good time to look behind you. :)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 29, 2004, 09:57:11 PM
Now there's a thought.  Who stalks the stalker?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on July 29, 2004, 09:58:23 PM
The Stalkerer Stalker, who is, in turn, stalked by the Stalkerest Stalker.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on July 29, 2004, 11:47:21 PM
I'm guessing a former roommate or relative of another TLE person. I tried many times to convince my younger sisters to go to TLE, but neither one of them are in Utah at the moment.

If someone Fished me and was just having fun and not trying to pick up on me, I would be insulted.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: 42 on July 29, 2004, 11:50:25 PM
I think I would rather be fished with a nice grilled salmon steak than a pet fish.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 30, 2004, 12:28:15 AM
Ms. Fish, I think that you should reveal yourself in time to come to the next TWG Utah activity.  Like the Anime Night we've been talking about, assuming you like anime.

Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 30, 2004, 01:38:09 AM
I might be persuaded to do that, assuming I'm not in mourning because the fish has been tortured to death. :'(
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on July 30, 2004, 01:53:48 AM
Okay, tell us now and it gets a quick death, we kill it THEN eat it, but if you don't tell us we eat it alive...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on July 30, 2004, 02:22:12 AM
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so, Ms. Fish. How long have you and Old One been room mates? (or, *gasp* the same person?!)

Don't evade the question, I'm pretty confident this is the case, as I have strong circumstantial evidence indicating it is so. Either that or one of you had the other over last night for a late evening.


This is what happens when you rely on circumstantial evidence. ;D I won't even go into the weird connotations of having a female roommate living with me and my husband.

And no, MsFish has never been to my apartment.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on July 30, 2004, 02:31:28 AM
Well, we could do with a slightly better hint.  But apart from that, we could either find someone to survey the computer rooms, set up a webcam at EUOL's place, or of course just get over it.  The last option could produce some interesting results.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on July 30, 2004, 02:33:31 AM
Have you traced Brenna's IP addresses? I'm sure that at least one of them should match since she's posting from roughly the same place that I am.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on July 30, 2004, 02:34:40 AM
And that is???? How about telling us where Ms. Fish is mainly posting from?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 30, 2004, 02:50:22 AM
If you want to know where I am "mainly" posting from, why didn't you just ask me?  I don't have the internet at home--so all my posts come from computer labs, except this one, of course.  I'm at a friend's house right now.  That ought to give you a new IP address to track.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on July 30, 2004, 07:08:45 AM
So where is this home that you don't internet at? :D

Then the stalker can become the stalked...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 30, 2004, 07:27:33 AM
i have looked. I haven't seen a corellation. You however, consistently post fromt he same IP.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Brenna on July 30, 2004, 10:55:40 AM
Nope, MsFish has never posted from my computer.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 30, 2004, 12:15:43 PM
that's what I said, though I guess my pronouns were confusing. OO said that your IP should cross with hers occassionally, and it doesn't. Her IP has been rock solid constant.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Tage on July 30, 2004, 12:28:19 PM
Keep in mind that BYU most likely uses a firewall and/or proxy for outgoing connections, meaning that to my server, every computer in a BYU open lab might look like they're all coming from the same IP address.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 30, 2004, 12:38:23 PM
it does, in fact, use a proxy. Which may or may not have a firewall. At least, it did 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 30, 2004, 12:55:19 PM
All of this IP stuff is pretty futile anyway, since 1) we already know she's at BYU, and 2) we don't have secret agents lurking around computer labs to see who is there--even if we knew precisely what computer MsFish was sitting at.

And in other news, I find it humorous that people like Gorgon and OutKast are asking for hints: even if she said her name, it wouldn't mean anything to them.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Entsuropi on July 30, 2004, 01:01:59 PM
/me collects IP addresses like cookies!
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 30, 2004, 01:05:53 PM
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2) we don't have secret agents lurking around computer labs to see who is there--even if we knew precisely what computer MsFish was sitting at.

says you. You don't have avast army of ninja monkey assassin priests at your disposal.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on July 30, 2004, 01:18:03 PM
True.  But don't they have better things to be doing?  Like overthrowing governments or something?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 30, 2004, 02:19:00 PM
hey, everyone needs a hobby. Monkeys just happen to like stalking people in a creepy manner.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on July 30, 2004, 04:11:03 PM
No, I am really just gunning for someone to eat the fish.  Preferably alive, as that, like I have already said, would hold no real purpose other than my amusement.  EAT THE FISH!
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on July 30, 2004, 04:30:05 PM
How about you go buy one and eat it?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 30, 2004, 04:55:46 PM
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And in other news, I find it humorous that people like Gorgon and OutKast are asking for hints: even if she said her name, it wouldn't mean anything to them.


No, the really great irony is that if I said my name, it wouldn't mean a thing to *any* of you.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on July 30, 2004, 05:43:30 PM
And so howled the dog "echo."
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on July 30, 2004, 05:51:23 PM
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How about you go buy one and eat it?


I am three steps ahead of you, uh, twice.  And it's only a two step process, meaning I can't afford no more fish... which is why someone needs to eat the free one!
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 30, 2004, 06:54:45 PM
For goodness sakes, leave the poor fish in peace.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on July 30, 2004, 07:58:20 PM
Hmm...Eastern Comcast. This friend...(GASP)...Lives in  Utah most likely!

Right, I'm stumped. The only leads now are TLE based ones, and I can't help with that.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on July 30, 2004, 09:33:10 PM
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No, the really great irony is that if I said my name, it wouldn't mean a thing to *any* of you.


And what's even funnier is that I finally remember your name, but I have no idea how to spell it.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Brenna on July 30, 2004, 09:57:28 PM
If it helps, there isn't an "e" at the end of her name. :)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Spriggan on July 30, 2004, 10:07:49 PM
Wow, you people are way too obsessed with this.  Its obvious she's just playing with you all.  The only reason she's keeping this game up is becasue all of you are so enthralled with it.  It's all just a stupid waste of time and energy to be trying to figure out who this girl is that may or may not like EUOL.  Especialy when both Brenna and Fuzzy know her, it's probaly nothing more then a pratcial joke being played by a bunch of bored school girls.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on July 30, 2004, 10:40:14 PM
If it matters to anyone, Brenna and fuzzy weren't exactly "in on it."  They just became aware of it this week.  Old one isn't "in on it" either--but she knows now as well.

And fuzzy-way to remember my name!   ;D
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Tekiel on July 31, 2004, 12:30:51 AM
Sooo. . . . were you flirting with Brandon, or were you just being weird, ehm, I mean, yourself?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on July 31, 2004, 02:20:10 PM
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For goodness sakes, leave the poor fish in peace.


Okay, he'll rest in peace.  But I still want someone to eat him, throwing him into the "rest in peace" category.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Archon on August 01, 2004, 12:59:43 AM
on Jul 30th, 2004, 3:30pm, SaintEhlers wrote:
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How about you go buy one and eat it?  

I think SE, that Gorgon would only want to eat EUOL's fish in particular, just because it would upset MsFish. He is fairly cruel in that way.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: stacer on August 01, 2004, 04:23:20 AM
Man, you leave for a week...

(Yes, it is 3:30 in the morning. I just got home an hour ago and thought I'd catch up on the board really quick. An hour later, here I sit. Why am I not asleep? Because... I don't know. All I know is that I have now been up for 21 hours and *should* be asleep.)

We haven't heard from EUOL lately on all this. What's up on his end?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Spriggan on August 01, 2004, 04:37:03 AM
He's out of town for 2 weeks, so I doubt much of his time is being spent on this.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 03, 2004, 04:34:39 AM
She's southern by the way, or hangs out with southerners a lot.
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Y'all are funny.

The way thats structured looks intrinsicly southern though so I suspect that she's from either the Carolinas or Georgia, though Virginia is my fallback state.

MS. Fish, how do you eat your Grits?

Most folk dont use Y'all in a sentence.
Do the BYU labs have video surveilence?
That might be a good way to find out.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Tage on August 03, 2004, 12:56:40 PM
I use ya'll, and I grew up in Idaho.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on August 03, 2004, 01:45:12 PM
Yes, but Idaho is a strange dimension outside regular space and time.


And, yes, I'm out of town with limited internet access.  I can't get my laptop to recognize my father's LAN.  So, I won't be able to participate much this week.  (Perhaps next week, when I head down to DC, will be better.)

Anyway, I'm very amused by this all.  
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on August 03, 2004, 01:45:15 PM
Yeah, but all of your ancestors are from the south, and you eat black-eyed peas like they were candy.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 03, 2004, 01:53:55 PM
incidentally, do you have time to see TWG-Easters while in DC?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on August 03, 2004, 01:59:00 PM
I think I probably will.  We should at least do dinner one night.  I'd still like to meet Jeffe.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 03, 2004, 02:05:13 PM
well, let us know. Jeffe. Weekend nights are probably better.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on August 03, 2004, 04:57:56 PM
I say y'all and was born in PA. I use 'eh' (the canadian 'uh') and even the southern way of shortin' words like they is all gussied up likes and sorts.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 03, 2004, 04:58:15 PM
Wow, youd like to meet me... Im honored,... well I have weekends off all month so give me the word...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 03, 2004, 05:29:50 PM
Gemm your a freak, so you don't count.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on August 03, 2004, 05:36:04 PM
Why did I see that one coming? =P
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on August 03, 2004, 07:47:18 PM
Because you're a freak, and thus have freakish foresight.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 03, 2004, 07:56:22 PM
also, freakish hindsight, freakish leftsight, and freakish rightsight.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 03, 2004, 08:46:04 PM
and freakish eyesight too.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Archon on August 03, 2004, 09:21:39 PM
what about upsight and downsight?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 04, 2004, 12:45:50 AM
they were too obvious.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Archon on August 04, 2004, 01:27:37 AM
   Oh yeah I should have known. Oh well.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on August 06, 2004, 12:21:24 PM
Actually, I'm from California.  But I say y'all, because I like the sound of it.  And because I have a tendency to assimilate other people's speech patterns.  And because it makes people argue about where I'm from.  
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 06, 2004, 07:47:06 PM
Well Y'all is the best word in the English language. :)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on August 06, 2004, 09:29:08 PM
Y'know, Ms Fish must be laughing so hard at all this discussion over a measly little joke.  I support time-wasting and all, but, this has almost gone a bit far now...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on August 06, 2004, 11:28:06 PM
Well, what do you suggest?

Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on August 06, 2004, 11:30:57 PM
I think y'all is the third best word in the English Language, right behind superfluous and extraneous, which just happen to mean the same thing.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on August 07, 2004, 06:59:51 AM
Well... at the very least, moving this along a bit???
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on August 07, 2004, 09:50:15 PM
That's not a very specific suggestion.  I have no idea what to do with that.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 08, 2004, 01:44:49 AM
Well, we know, shes a Californian... so we could check records of all students enrolled in Lit classes at byu who are from CA originally. That kind of transcript info is easy to get.

That would give us a working list... a big list, but a working one.

Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on August 08, 2004, 04:15:53 AM
Uh-oh. I'd better run.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 08, 2004, 10:52:29 AM
uhm.... I don't think that will necessarily be helpful. Yes, you admit that it's a big list, but replace "big" with "Huge-mongous." There are more students at BYU from california than any other state besides Utah, I believe. Maybe it's third behind Idaho, but still. Even leaving out the ones who aren't in English-related classes (and paring it down to women only), we're looking at a list hundreds of names long. To me, that's not useful.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on August 08, 2004, 02:34:51 PM
Because of  a clue Ms. Fish left earlier, EUOL knows it was not only a literature student, but one who took his class.  

Therefore it would be a matter of finding out how many female Californians had taken his class.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 08, 2004, 04:28:32 PM
yep, much smaller number as far as Im concerned, plus, he's looking for a familiar name....
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on August 08, 2004, 10:19:00 PM
Uh, Jeffe, it's someone who took his class.  Which means

A) They very probably know him much better than he knows them.

B) That all the names on such a list should be familiar, even if just remotely.

Which means that once you narrow it down to people who took his class that are female and from california, you really aren't narrowing it down much more.  The rest will have to be taken off the list by some other clues.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 08, 2004, 11:34:38 PM
no kidding, that was my point Gorgun
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on August 08, 2004, 11:48:00 PM
Well, since the list was your idea in the first place I thought you were serious.  Sarcasm is hard to pick up without tone.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on August 09, 2004, 03:15:41 AM
But remember: the name ends with an e (Not *too* common) and it may not be obviously spelt. (I cite "Way to remember my name!" as though it isa difficult thing.


I'm guessing Skye.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 09, 2004, 03:28:12 AM
Michelle, Marie, Gabrielle, Mackenzie...etc
but yeah the options are even more limited


Im betting its a Michelle.



Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 09, 2004, 07:36:42 AM
when did we learn that her name ends with an e?
Also, when did we learn for certain that she had taken his class? I thought both of these were still speculation.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on August 09, 2004, 07:45:29 AM
"If it helps, there isn't an "e" at the end of her name" - Brenna

Can't be bothered finding the other quote
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on August 09, 2004, 08:47:18 AM
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Also, when did we learn for certain that she had taken his class? I thought both of these were still speculation.


EUOL told me that off of the board.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 09, 2004, 09:13:47 AM
THat was July 30th at 8:57 pm (eastern), Outkast, thanks. So we have established that it ISN'T Michelle or Skye.

Now it's EUOL's fault if he doesn't know I think. With all these clues, and his class list, he should be able to figure it out.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on August 09, 2004, 10:10:25 AM
But Skye is such a cool name!

Sorry. When I was thirteen, I knew a girl named Skye.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on August 09, 2004, 12:53:57 PM
Hey fuzzy, whose side are you on, anyway?   ;)

My name is not Michelle, nor Skye, as it does not in fact end in an e.  Nor a y.  Nor a z or a q for that matter.

I'd like to see that list of all of us from California in English classes.  That would be impressive.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on August 09, 2004, 02:32:05 PM
So, thus far we could TECHNICALLY narrow it down to a list of
A) BYU students origionally from California
B) That took EUOL's class
C) That are Female
D) That have names that don't end with "e", "q", "y" or "z"
E) That have access to the room that she was posting from (Could we get that kind of information and/or does everyone have access to the library or computer lab she was posting from?)

We are looking at a huge list, here.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 09, 2004, 03:14:18 PM
actually, since she's been in EUOL's class, that list is much smaller.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 09, 2004, 04:21:07 PM
now we just need to get the police involved....
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Tekiel on August 09, 2004, 05:35:16 PM
"But if I must go by Anne, please call me Anne with an 'e'"

I'm guessing she's refering to Anne of Avonlea.  So maybe her name is Ann (without an E).
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Brenna on August 09, 2004, 06:37:22 PM
Nope, her name is farther along in the alphabet than "A". :)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on August 09, 2004, 06:51:48 PM
Uh...how about Betty?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on August 09, 2004, 07:28:07 PM
Hey, that Anne thing would have been pretty clever.  Too bad I've never seen the movie.  
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on August 09, 2004, 07:34:08 PM
Which proves conclusively that you're not from Utah.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on August 09, 2004, 07:45:25 PM
But, uh, we didn't NEED to prove conlusively she's not from Utah.  We already knew... :P
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on August 09, 2004, 07:46:11 PM
Need I remind you that this is all futile anyway?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on August 09, 2004, 07:47:37 PM
Well, sure it is, but it is still enertaining.  And I demand enertainment.  Which brings me back to my origional point, eat the fish for my personal enertainment!
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on August 09, 2004, 08:03:38 PM
I remember once I was working, and a friend of mine brought in a CD.  It was kind of weird gravely-voiced blues.  

My friend asked "Do you know who this is?"  

And I said "No.  Who?"  

And he said "Bob Jones."

And I said "Who's that?"  

And he said "The guy who sings this song."

I had been expecting some significance in the singer's name, but there was absolutely none.  Knowing his name changed absolutely nothing, because it didn't reference anything else.  It was just a name.

One day, we'll find out MsFish is named Cheryl Johnson, or Lisa Sanchez, or Marjorie St. James.  And then, we'll say "Who's that?"

The only person who will know who that is (on this board) is EUOL (who, you'll notice hasn't posted to this thread in about a week.  My guess is that he already knows who she is.)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on August 09, 2004, 08:10:27 PM
Isn't he out of town or something?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on August 09, 2004, 08:14:02 PM
You're the one stalking him, how should we know?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 09, 2004, 09:34:26 PM
It won't be Marjorie St. James. Her name doesn't end in an 'e'
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 09, 2004, 10:32:35 PM
and she isnt made of pure evil.

Marjorie being the name of the devil.

Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on August 09, 2004, 10:43:21 PM
James doesn't end in an 'e' mind you.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 09, 2004, 11:03:55 PM
yes, look at the first name
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on August 09, 2004, 11:08:26 PM
I see the name as more of a whole than that hole that you see.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 09, 2004, 11:15:19 PM
yeah, but you're wrong.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on August 09, 2004, 11:31:22 PM
No, you see. You think that I am wrong, when in fact I see that I am in fact right.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 09, 2004, 11:35:33 PM
which doesnt make you any less wrong.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on August 10, 2004, 01:04:32 AM
or any more right, just to prevent any branching towards that direction.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Spriggan on August 10, 2004, 08:51:51 AM
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who, you'll notice hasn't posted to this thread in about a week.  My guess is that he already knows who she is.


No its more like he's lost intrest in this thread, like most of us.  He is out of town, but has some access to the net.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on August 11, 2004, 01:55:25 AM
Actually, I JUST got my internet working here in D.C..  It's been temperamental lately.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 11, 2004, 03:28:14 AM
HA!
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 11, 2004, 03:28:32 AM
Welcome to our fair city by the way
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on August 11, 2004, 07:18:26 PM
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No its more like he's lost intrest in this thread, like most of us.


If you've lost interest...why are you still reading it?   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on August 11, 2004, 08:39:37 PM
This IS a Time-Wasters Guide.  So even if we're kinda over it, we're still wasting time.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on August 11, 2004, 08:57:46 PM
Not "a" Time-Waster's Guide.  THE Time-Wasters Guide.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 11, 2004, 09:17:07 PM
not just the Time Waster's Guide. The OFFICIAL Time-Waster's Guide.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 11, 2004, 09:31:38 PM
not just the official timewasters guide, the ... erm grumble grumble.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on August 11, 2004, 09:34:22 PM
Here, I'll take it..


Not just the Official Timewaster's Guide, but The Official Timewaster's Guide OF DOOM.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on August 11, 2004, 10:08:55 PM
Not just The Official Timewasters Guide OF DOOM but...

The Ultra Mega Mega Mystical Space Typhoon Copernical and underrated Explicitly and Unauthorised Official Timewasters Guide of Doom and Woe that Shall Smite You, and Then You Shall Be Smitten, For You Will Be Smote and Smited, and It Shall Lay Down Really Heavy on your Report Card!.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 11, 2004, 10:14:32 PM
hey. none of that crap is on the logo.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 11, 2004, 10:32:07 PM
thats because you dont have the illuminatus version...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 11, 2004, 10:34:11 PM
that's because there is no Illuminatus version since  I slew all the Illuminati.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: JP Dogberry on August 11, 2004, 10:36:00 PM
That's what They want you to think...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 11, 2004, 10:39:33 PM
I didn't realize dead people wanted me to think anything.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 11, 2004, 10:56:55 PM
Fnord!
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on August 12, 2004, 01:19:19 AM
What do the movies 'Titanic' and 'The 6th Sense' have in common?





Icy dead people.  


('Cuz, you know, we were talking about dead people.)



Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: HermantheGerman on August 12, 2004, 03:14:16 AM
What happened to the fish? That's what I want to know... let there be more oh please let there be more!

Sorry... did a search for 'time-wasting' on google and came here, then got intrigued by poor old Paul the fish.

Brilliant website by the way - like it  :)
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: EUOL on August 12, 2004, 03:52:35 AM
Welcome, Herman, to our corner of insanity.

The fish, I hope, is still alive.  I've been gone for nearly two weeks, but bettas are supposed to be pretty hardy fish.  I assume my roommates are caring for Roy better than they did Paul....
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Master Xaio on August 12, 2004, 03:59:53 AM
And you hope that Gorgon hasn't come anywhere near it.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 12, 2004, 07:30:44 AM
or the ninja monkeys.

what I want to know, Herman, is what prompted you to search for "time-wasting" on google.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on August 12, 2004, 11:18:24 AM
Do you mean to say that the poor fish has been left at the mercy of the roommates again?  Heaven help him...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on August 12, 2004, 01:39:51 PM
Look on the bright side, nameless, at least I'm nowhere near it.  Mmmmm, fishy.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on August 12, 2004, 05:27:46 PM
As I said before, I am not nameless.  I am FISHless.


I wonder what Betta would taste like anyway...
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: House of Mustard on August 20, 2004, 05:09:29 PM
Oh, so you're Janci?  I should have known... It's all so clear now.  The hints, the clues, the foreshadowing...  Brilliant.

Anyway, welcome to the board Janci.  We hope you stick around, even if we're not talking about fish.

Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 20, 2004, 05:19:25 PM
Kill the fish, bash its head, spill its blood....
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Archon on August 20, 2004, 05:39:04 PM
Alive without breath
as cold as death
never thirsting, ever drinking
clad in mail never clinking
drowns on dry land
thinks an island
is a mountain
thinks a fountain
is a puff of air
so sleek so fair
what a joy to meet
we only wish to catch a fish
so juicy sweet


fissh, nice fish. Makes us strong. Makes eyes bright, fingers tight, yes.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on August 20, 2004, 06:08:15 PM
She's fun.  I want to convince her to come to the next real TWG Utah activity we have.

I'm thinking I should have a housewarming party sometime in September.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 21, 2004, 02:08:29 AM
Janci!... thats not a real name, its just an amalgam of Jan and Muncie.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 21, 2004, 09:51:52 AM
"You're probably not even a Muncie girl"
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on August 21, 2004, 05:03:09 PM
Why do I sense extreme amounts of sarcasm.  

Why am I not surprised?   ;D


And what do you MEAN Janci isn't a real name?  You're just jealous; you wish you had a name as cool as mine.  


And stupid question:  What's a Muncie?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on August 21, 2004, 05:04:13 PM
How did your parents choose your name?
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 21, 2004, 05:51:01 PM
Muncie is the school the protagonist of Hudsucker Proxy attended. The reporter gal trying to get the story pretends to be an alumnus (alumna?) of the same. When he feels she's betrayed him, he tells her what I quoted, thus revealing that he has NO idea how deep the deception goes.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: stacer on August 21, 2004, 08:01:21 PM
I was trying to remember what movie that was from. I used to have it on video, but then accidentally taped over it. What a funny movie.
Title: Re: Please Save Paul
Post by: MsFish on August 23, 2004, 01:09:51 PM
My Mom had a friend whose name was Jancilynne, but my dad said that was too long, so she split it up to Janci Lynne.  

That's the story anyway.  I wasn't actually there.