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Re: Well-Rounded Characters
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2004, 12:56:23 PM »
hrm. Entropy, I don't think I can agree with you in the slightest. Dalenar's behavior did fit. From the very first page we see that he has problems with the King's rule, but still follows his duty. And then later his family issues cause him to shirk that duty, well, that's a sign that all is not well. We've seen that his love of his sons is so significant that it causes him to shirk his loyalty.. something even knowing he was being loyal to an incompetant couldn't do. That's a powerful motivation. I think you had a perception of him that didn't fit with what was actually in the text.
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Re: Well-Rounded Characters
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2004, 01:08:42 PM »
Is EUOL reading Thomas Moore again,

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Re: Well-Rounded Characters
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2004, 01:27:16 PM »
I didn't say it was not right, i said the transition didn't feel complete. He went totally from one to the other, and there was little warning - little screentime for the character - in the middle.

Thats what it seemed like at the time anyway.
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Re: Well-Rounded Characters
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2004, 01:42:12 PM »
right. You said it didn't fit. And my argument is that it DOES fit. I even used those words.

Every time he comes up he's conflicted about the King. And most of those times it involves family. Like his son gets demoted, or he has to remain married to a woman he doesn't love, or his son has been killed, etc. I'm not sure what else you want.
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Re: Well-Rounded Characters
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2004, 01:55:08 PM »
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I'm not sure what else you want.


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Re: Well-Rounded Characters
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2004, 02:20:36 PM »
hrm... You make a very strong argument. Almost I am convinced to join your side. Strong hte dark side is. Talk like Yoda you make me.
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Re: Well-Rounded Characters
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2004, 02:42:48 PM »
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Re: Well-Rounded Characters
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2004, 04:13:39 PM »
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hrm... You make a very strong argument. Almost I am convinced to join your side. Strong hte dark side is. Talk like Yoda you make me.


I don't think i can comprehend of how annoying you would become if you were a foot and a half high, green, and with that voice.

Also : Bananas.
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Re: Well-Rounded Characters
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2004, 05:09:05 PM »
are you trying to bait my ninja monkeys into a trap?
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Re: Well-Rounded Characters
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2004, 01:32:36 AM »
I will note that Entropy is right--Dalenar doesn't get as much 'screen time' in the book as the other characters.  However, I'm very fond of his storyline--to me, he feels like one of the most 'real' characters I've ever created.

Anyway, thanks for the discussion, all.  It helped.
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