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Title: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: EUOL on September 08, 2004, 01:09:35 AM
Whew!  That was a marathon, wasn't it?  

I'm not so sure about this six-day con thing.  World Fantasy seems to be more my speed--Friday, Saturday, Sunday.  

Anyway, what con are we going to do next year?
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on September 08, 2004, 03:00:10 AM
Here's some options:

NASFiC, CascadiaCon, Seattle, Sept. 1-5 2005, http://www.cascadiacon.org/
$85 through Nov. 30, this year

World Fantasy, Madison WI, Nov. 3-6 2005, http://worldfantasy.org/2005/
$110 through Oct. 31 this year

Westercon, Due North, Calgary Alberta, July 1-4 2005, http://calgaryin2005.org/
$60 through Nov. 1 this year
(Note: Anime Expo is always that weekend, so I wouldn't be able to make it.)
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on September 08, 2004, 08:23:13 AM
Never been to Seattle. That would be fun. Madison would be relatively near home (home-home, not current-home)--but not enough to stay for free or anything (it's about a 5 or 6 hour drive from home).
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on September 08, 2004, 08:24:13 AM
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I'm not so sure about this six-day con thing.  World Fantasy seems to be more my speed--Friday, Saturday, Sunday.  


Six days hanging out with old friends--great. Six days running around at that speed--exhausting.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Spriggan on September 08, 2004, 08:35:17 AM
that's why you should have had Mr. Moneybags (Tage) rent you all Segway scooters.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on September 08, 2004, 08:54:50 AM
The funniest thing about Tage staying with his friends in Cambridge was that it made him seem the most Bostonian out of everybody, and now I feel like I ought to be seeing him at church on Sunday. He was used to the T and even had a pass and seemed fairly familiar with Boston geography--which you have to if you're staying near MIT and commuting to the Hynes, I suppose. Maybe he just has more of a "city-boy" look than most, too, I suppose.

Speaking of, have I become quite the big-city girl? I'd hate to think I'd lost my small-town ways, but when you work where I do, you absorb the company dress culture or you don't get a better job. It'll be nice to have just class to worry about--I can go back to dressing comfortably.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 08, 2004, 09:44:54 AM
I'm voting for cheap. $85 for five days seems like a REALLY good deal. Of course, I'm not sure I'll hae $85 by the end of Nov, what's it go to after that?
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 08, 2004, 10:51:47 AM
oh, and guys? we forgot something (http://archive.gamespy.com/comics/nodwick/ffn/strips/Strip072.jpg)
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Brenna on September 08, 2004, 02:06:52 PM
I'm more likely to go to the Seattle one, since Chris's dad lives in Washington state. Granted, his home is either an hour or an hour and a half away from Seattle, depending on whether you take the ferry or drive, but still.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: EUOL on September 08, 2004, 02:14:52 PM
I'm willing to try Nasfic.  It will probably be similar to this con, and I'd like to go to Seattle.  

I might recommend World Fantasy, since many of us have never seen it, and it really is a great con.  I suppose we can go to it when it's in someplace more interesting, I suppose.

Another option, of course, is:

http://www.dragoncon.org/

Personally, however, I'd like to wait for Dragoncon until I have a little bit more name recognition in the field.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on September 08, 2004, 02:22:37 PM
I'd like to see Seattle, but I'd prefer fantasy content. Does that help any?
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 08, 2004, 03:24:18 PM
It would help more if any of those sites had information on what the cost will be AFTER november. I mean, I want to go, but I need to budget for it, and I don't have $85 available yet.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on September 08, 2004, 03:43:12 PM
Well, you start talking Seattle and you might even get me interested.  My folks live 20-25 min. out of downtown.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on September 08, 2004, 03:45:23 PM
I like the sound of that Sci-Fi one. MMMmm. Gooey.

But what are they really offering at this Cascadia Con?

I also know some people in the Seattle area. It'd be nice to go out there and see them, sci-fi it up, etc.

And SE, they have an installment plan where you can pay $35 now and then just add on as much as you want before april. Or august, one of the two.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on September 08, 2004, 03:56:14 PM
Also, so I can stop convoluting my one post, it seems a bit more geared toward sci-fi and education. As well as a sci-fi/fantasy/horror film festival. I think I will have to create just for that.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 08, 2004, 04:03:41 PM
yes, but I want to pay all at once. I don't want to give some and then find that my family can't afford to do the rest. Wasted money, see?
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on September 08, 2004, 04:23:50 PM
I just thought I'd point it out. But there is also Philcon. http://www.philcon.org/2004/ Which is in about 3 months but pre-registering before the 15th of this month is only $40. And they'll have a nice deal for the hotel rooms.  Rooms are usually $139 per night for a double, they'll have them for $83. Yeah, I know. Spring it's upon you. But that's just another option for next year or whenever. They seem to do it annually since `97.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: EUOL on September 08, 2004, 04:45:32 PM
A lot of local areas have great cons--however, they're not going to attract the large number of professionals and editors that a national con will.

Every year, one local con earns the right to transform into 'Worldcon' for that year.  Though the con itself doesn't change much, it gains the power to give away the Hugo awards, and generally everybody agrees to go there instead of somewhere else.  So, that local con--instead of its standard two or three hundred people--will balloon to five or six thousand people.  

The same thing happens for 'NasFic,' the big, national con they hold in the states every year that the Worldcon is outside of the country.  World Fantasy is kind of similar, but it doesn't 'transform' a regular con--it is put on with a specific theme by people who organize local cons.  

I'm not sure about Westercon, which is the other big national convention.  

Cons like DragonCon are completely different.  They're media cons, and are for-profit (Worldcon, World Fantasy, and Nasfic are all volunteer, non-profit cons.)  Dragoncon will have huge attendance numbers, and will be filled with booths and media presentations, as well as have tv/film stars as their guests of honor.

Local cons, like Philcon, are probably very fun--but they don't have the networking power to draw people from all across the world to attend them.  They're usually much cheaper, but they don't have the same kind of programming and the like.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 08, 2004, 05:17:40 PM
it seems to me, if a local con were worth going to, it'd be in New York City. After all, that would cost nearly nothing for a publishing house based in NYC (most of them) to send a rep.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on September 08, 2004, 08:37:53 PM
I think I may have to divorce my husband if I'm ever going to go to a con again.

(not for personal reasons, but because HALF of my income pays for his student loans every month,and the other half is rent)
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: EUOL on September 08, 2004, 09:57:33 PM
You won't be in that financial state forever, Fuzzy.  Maybe you can go eventually.  Regardless, you can always go to Conduit in Salt Lake.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on September 08, 2004, 10:04:54 PM
By the way, I completely agree with the Sheraton being in the corner, and I didn't even stay there. How long has that been down there?
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: EUOL on September 08, 2004, 10:06:13 PM
The ways of the corner are mysterious and incomprehensible.  
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on September 09, 2004, 12:04:41 AM
Probably since they didn't check us in until late late.

I've added Westercon to the options, just for kicks.

Note: NASFiC will have fantasy content as well. Worldcon is the world science fiction con, but there was no lack of fantasy.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on September 10, 2004, 12:35:44 AM
Here's (http://photobucket.com/albums/v407/norroway/WorldCon%20Boston%202004/) the pics from WorldCon. About half, anyway. The other half are still to come. I grabbed Kristy and Chris's off their site, so theirs are in there, too. What I want to know is, what's up with  this? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/norroway/WorldCon%20Boston%202004/brandonstrangeface.jpg) This one (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/norroway/WorldCon%20Boston%202004/peterstrangeface.jpg) isn't quite so weird, but still odd. Did we say funny faces that time or something? And of course I'm a floating head in  this one. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/norroway/WorldCon%20Boston%202004/cheers2fixed.jpg)

Also, let me know if it's supposed to have a login or something. It looks like it's working, but I could be wrong.

By the way, if anyone wants high-res of any of these, let me know. This seems to resize them for the web, but I have them in printable quality.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 10, 2004, 07:29:44 AM
heh. it's like Agent Smith removed his mouth.
I was wondering what he was doing that you guys were talking about. He was facing away from me during all those pictures.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on September 10, 2004, 08:50:04 AM
I seem to recall that most of my photos from freshman year revolve around people making weird faces.

You only think those are odd because Fellfrosch wasn't there.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Tage on September 10, 2004, 01:45:49 PM
Since I know you're all dying to see more of WorldCon, here are my pictures:
http://gallery.rickstranger.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=sdandboston&page=1

The first page is from San Diego, so ya'll probably won't be that interested in those.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: EUOL on September 10, 2004, 01:59:03 PM
The ways of the Brandon are strange and mysterious.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on September 10, 2004, 02:00:40 PM
Those are awesome, Tage. I like that I'm not a floating head in your Cheers shot.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Mistress of Darkness on September 10, 2004, 07:24:01 PM
Woah beard. I assume that's Mike?
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 10, 2004, 09:04:39 PM
yeah, the hairy guy that otherwise looks like me and is mostly unfamiliar to you former TLE staffers is my brother Mike. The one referred to in the con reports.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Beardie Mike on September 13, 2004, 10:15:27 PM
That's me.  The beard started back in college because I got tired of hearing "Oh, you're Mormon and go to school out West.  How do you like BYU?"  That and I'm too lazy to shave.  Now it just sort of fits with the whole living in New Hampshire thing I've got going.

I also wanted to add that it was great meeting all the con goers.  It was a tiring experience, but I had a good time.  I plan on joining NESFA, the con organizers, this year, and getting into the local con scene just for the fun of it.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: EUOL on September 14, 2004, 01:40:48 AM
Welcome to the forums, Mike!  I have to say, the beard really suits you.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on September 14, 2004, 11:26:46 AM
Ok, so Tage is running on more hormones than I would have thought. How quaint.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Beardie Mike on September 14, 2004, 11:24:39 PM
Thanks, EUOL.  I did shave my beard off about a year and a half ago.  My daughter wouldn't come near me.

So, not to bring this back to the original topic or anything, but is anyone seriously thinking of CascadiaCon?
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: EUOL on September 15, 2004, 03:32:59 AM
Hey, Ookla.  Thanks for the link on TW--I just noticed it.  Not much for people to see yet, but maybe this will get the word out just a bit.

I got a nice little hit-spike.  (Up from fifty to about one-fifty.)  Nifty!
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 15, 2004, 07:27:05 AM
I'm thinking I need money before I think of anything.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Spriggan on September 15, 2004, 07:36:23 AM
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Ok, so Tage is running on more hormones than I would have thought. How quaint.


You don't know Tage very well, that's pretty normal for him.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Tage on September 15, 2004, 12:46:27 PM
What? Is it so strange that I like girls? Hello, mid-20s bachelor here.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 15, 2004, 12:47:58 PM
yes. You should already be married. If you're still single and dating you must be gay or something. Perv!

(ok, note to everyone, don't confuse the above sentence with anything serious. This is complete sarcasm here)
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Entsuropi on September 18, 2004, 08:16:56 AM
http://zip.4chan.org/a/src/1095450285145.jpg

Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is how cosplaying should be done.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Spriggan on September 18, 2004, 08:19:50 AM
Wow, I concur even if the game they're cosplaying (linage 2) sucks.  Lets start our own Con Ent and only allow girls that look like that in.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on September 18, 2004, 08:38:47 AM
u r 2 B pwned Sprigdiddy. They are chobits. I don't remember the names of those two but they are. Oh, 2 pwned you, krofl!

But no Tage, I said how quaint, not strange. I don't find it strange at all.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Spriggan on September 18, 2004, 08:51:21 AM
Gemm, posting in Leet only shows you're utter contempt of humanity.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on September 18, 2004, 09:05:40 AM
Yes well. You did recognize them wrongly. And I don't have much against the world. or at least this humanity you speak of.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Entsuropi on September 18, 2004, 09:05:52 AM
He is, however, correct. Thats chobits cosplay. Very strange romantic anime with robot things.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on September 18, 2004, 05:03:11 PM
I've finally gotten the last half of my WorldCon photos back. And I'm never taking film to that place again. I thought I'd give them a few weeks to get better, and then try them again. This time all my film came out blue-green tinted, and I've just spent the whole morning fixing the pictures in Photoshop. The prints are okay, but slightly out of focus. Not happy with them at all. You can see the difference in quality just between the early Worldcon photos and the most recent. Perhaps it combined with some bad photography on my part, but I'm not *that* bad.

Anyway, the album is updated, so here you go:

http://photobucket.com/albums/v407/norroway

and click on "WorldCon photos."

Again, if anyone wants a better electronic copy of any of these, let me know--these are extremely low-res. Also, I have an extra set of prints (free doubles), so if anyone wants any of them, let me know and I'll snail mail them to you.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 19, 2004, 09:10:58 AM
Stacer, you should ask for you money back if they did a realy bad job developing.

Great pics!
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on September 19, 2004, 09:13:14 AM
It was my last day of work, and I was too tired with everything I'd been doing this last week to bother with it. I think in this case it'll be good enough to just never go there again. They can't give me my film in better condition--it's the negs that have the problem.

Is anybody having a hard time accessing the link? When I click on it, I get an error message.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 19, 2004, 09:27:03 AM
yeah, i had trouble getting in, but I just removed the "img" bit from the URL and I got in just fine. if you edit that out of your post, the link should work ok.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on September 19, 2004, 02:50:36 PM
Aha! Yes, now it works.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on September 20, 2004, 03:31:55 AM
I think, at least, that those chobits cosplayers are actually girls. I saw another set of pictures of guys doing those exact same characters, and their costumes were just as good and they were just as beautiful. It was rather freaky.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on November 08, 2004, 12:39:38 AM
The NASFiC 2005 deadline for the cheap price of $85 is November 30 (this month). That's coming up. What do people say? Anyone else want to go? I'd be more likely to register now if I knew other people were going.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on November 08, 2004, 01:50:07 AM
Hmmm.

I'd be more likely to register if I had ANY clue what NASFiC was.

Can you explain?
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on November 09, 2004, 05:48:37 AM
NASFiC is just like Worldcon. Except not.

Well, on the years where Worldcon is held outside of the USA or Canada, they hold a North American Science Fiction Convention in some city somewhere, for the people who will not be able to travel overseas. Since next year's Worldcon is in Scotland, NASFiC is coming, to Seattle. Basically there will be lots of authors and editors (though not as many as at Worldcon) and panels and fans and stuff. And it's cheaper than Worldcon. But it doesn't have Hugos like Worldcon does.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on November 09, 2004, 08:46:45 AM
Speaking of WorldCon, I get a mailer every week from various airlines, and there's a weekend special, this weekend, from Delta--Salt Lake City to Boston (and vice versa) $198. I say, WorldCon reunion in Boston!  :D Only thing is, it's a Saturday-Tuesday fare. Y'all don't have anything going on Monday or Tuesday, do you?  ;)
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Spriggan on November 10, 2004, 09:55:18 AM
Ya, we could all go and stand in that death trap of a tunnel you've got there.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/10/big.dig.ap/index.html
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on November 10, 2004, 11:17:59 AM
Yeah, the Big Dig has had problems for about 20 years now. Rumor has it that it's run by the Mob.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on November 10, 2004, 11:54:25 AM
Oh, and another fare sale I just saw today: Boston to London is $250 right now. Too bad I don't have the extra cash for an international trip!
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 10, 2004, 11:56:12 AM
/me figures $600 for round trip...

/me has a conversation with his wife....

of course, hotel stays drive that up by $100+ a night. Plus food Still, a 4 day second honeymoon for around $2000 isn't bad.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on November 10, 2004, 12:13:57 PM
Stacer, how can one sign up to receive these word-of-mouthed offers on airfared travel? My geography teacher said Buffalo is one of the cheapest airports to fly out of. So I'm just wondering if that's correct.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Entsuropi on November 10, 2004, 12:16:40 PM
Boston is pretty dang cheap to Ireland (all the irish americans flying around). So you go to dublin and use a ferry or another plane to get to Britain. That's one of the regular cheap routes i think.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on November 10, 2004, 12:52:31 PM
I signed up for frequent flier programs with American, Delta, and United. You can opt in/out for the weekly sale emails, and you can specify the airports you want to hear about.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on November 10, 2004, 12:56:52 PM
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Boston is pretty dang cheap to Ireland (all the irish americans flying around). So you go to dublin and use a ferry or another plane to get to Britain. That's one of the regular cheap routes i think.


Which is why there are so many Irish people in Boston. Two summers ago we had 7 or 8 Irish college students living in the apt. below me, here for the summer, just for fun. It was cheaper to cram into an apartment for a summer than do the hostel thing.
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on November 10, 2004, 12:57:58 PM
Mmmm, addresses please? Those would help. =P
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: stacer on November 10, 2004, 12:59:40 PM
It's just their regular homepages--www.aa.com, www.delta.com, and www.united.com (I think--could be wrong about that last one).
Title: Re: Worldcon Therapy Group
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on November 10, 2004, 01:04:40 PM
I don't know their regular homepages. But thanks stacer!

Ok... not flying anywhere anytime soon.