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Reading Excuses / Re: How many critiques do you give a week?
« on: February 04, 2009, 07:36:08 AM »
I'm doing none at the moment unfortunately.
Two shortstory projects I'm working on are in their critiquing, rewriting fase that's currently taking up all my available time. I should be able to throw in a critique here and there in a few weeks time though.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: January 05, 2009, 05:08:14 PM »
I've been swamped by the holidays as well (Happy newyears everyone).
I can't promise to pick up at the same level as I started though. Doing a full critique takes me around three hours (reading, figuring out why I don't like things, phrasing them constructively) With 7 submissions a week coming in I don't have the time available to actually do that.
Whether that means I'll stick to short comments like today or pick one or two at random each week I don't know yet. Either way the current pace of submitting is too fast for me to keep up with.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Spejoku's Nightlife
« on: January 05, 2009, 03:35:00 PM »
Although it took me a while to get into, once they were running around like wolves it started to grow on me.
The kicking wolf didn't work for me, in the whole chapter you give the impression of them being wolves (big dogs, shapeshifters) although falling a hundred feet and leaping across streets is stretching it somewhat. (Willing to go along with the street thing, not the 100 feet drop)
Also I didn't feel as though I was missing essential information so this could probably be adapted into chap 1 as well.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Crystalheart, Chapter 2
« on: January 05, 2009, 02:51:57 PM »
Well that was unexpected.
This chapter needs less action and more story. Have them kill a grunt while heading over to shiny-hair and have him beat them on the first go. They really have no motivation to keep running into a fight they cannot win.
As soon as you continue the story after the # it gets interesting again. Although even then, giving them even the slightest modicum of self preservation would make them far more realistic.
The ending was unexpected, especially since it feels like I'm back at square one after two chapters.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Granite Sunrise
« on: January 05, 2009, 02:10:23 PM »
Since I'm running 'slightly' behind on commenting I'll keep it really brief till I catch up.

I liked the story and had no major hangups. Whether to put it in or not is up to you, and as Raethe said is impossible for us to tell at this point.
Also I wouldn't worry too much about the foreshadowing being obvious, I only gave it a casual read and wasn't bothered by it standing out.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Dec 15 - Queen'sOpal - Part 1
« on: December 23, 2008, 11:56:26 AM »
Well let me state first off that I am familiar with the forgotten realms setting so most of the assumed knowledge will be in place.
Since I’m running hopelessly behind on all the reviews I’ll be keeping them a bit shorter, so sorry for less shredding to come.

I did like the prologue, the conflict was strong and clear and the dragonet seems interesting.

I’m not too keen on your solution for the timejump. I’d suggest skipping the omniscient paragraph of the prologue and have Drynn mention the legends of the horrible Garrad when he mentions the drow war. There being legends should imply a lot of time having passed.

Chapter one seemed too flat to me. None of the characters got fleshed out enough to make me care about them. I’m sure that will come in later chapters but for now it didn’t really get me involved.
Drynn could use some positive characterization. So far you’ve shown us he is not a fighter, and he’s not the focal point of the giggling herd, nor id he very emotional about his mother’s death, so who or what is he? Perhaps instead of showing him being bullied around by people who are doing what they want to be doing, you could show him doing what he likes, give us a trait or skill to define him and gauge him before you show the people around him get the better of him.

Also, shouldn’t there be a corpse and rituals if the queen is dead? Wouldn’t the servants that moved her have cried out and told others about her passing if she was so loved? So far her death seems to have about as much impact as a stuffed toy that was tossed away. (Next chapters I’m sure, but I actually need to see some impact on the world right then and there.) Few things will make the world stop quite like the death of a close relative.

That’s about it for me, I do agree with the points made above and quite like the world and the setting you’ve got going.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Dec 15, 08 - Birthright - Chapter 1
« on: December 19, 2008, 09:25:34 PM »
I did consider those options but figured I'd just get a RAFO if he had thought of it. And if not, now would be a good time to mention it.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Dec 15, 08 - Birthright - Chapter 1
« on: December 19, 2008, 10:40:26 AM »
Not quite as intense as the prologue but a good piece nonetheless. The pirate theme is strong with this one. Good solid setting.

I'm still at odds with the way you introduce your characters. Boone to me is a name that goes with an old pirate deckhand, with a gray beard and missing teeth. Possibly with a wooden leg. Since the name is all I have to go on in the beginning that was the image that formed in my head. When you then suddenly called him a rollicking young man I had to go back and readjust my image of him, which was rather jarring.

Having him go back to humming when he couldn't remember the lyrics is a great piece of characterization.

The heightening of his awareness of his surroundings should hardly come as a surprise to him, therefore “suddenly” can be cut.

I'm a bit torn on his whistling being “accompanied by a boisterous song”. This implies a certain harmony in sound which I'm not sure there would be. It stood out, that's really all I can say about it.

I don't really get why the word roldt stands out so much. The world seems to be teeming with all kinds of rivaling houses and nations, different nationalities are used for characterization all the time. What's so special about this word that makes it stand out in such a cauldron? Are you sure it needs that much attention?

The smugness is again good characterization.

The line in which you tell us of his tousled blond hair you briefly go from third limited to third omniscient to tell us that. If you tell us how dirty everyone looks, and then mention he learned to wash his face in Vemetha we understand all the other grime still applies to him as well.

I'm not quite sure why an informant of his caliber would hold great stock in the trustworthiness of the one in front of him. He's in fact just rumormongering, he's not actively spying himself, which would make his position far more sensitive. The point that coins go openly across the table also indicates he's not all that concerned with keeping his trade hidden.

The whole dialogue between them would be considerably spiced up if you make Boone a less seasoned negotiator, or at least stop telling us he knows what he's doing. There is very little tension left in the negotiation when we already know Boone is playing with him, and Warren doesn't appear to have a few aces up his sleeve. Alternatively make Warren far more shrewd, give them a more equal footing and the game will be more intense, and more interesting.

I agree with the above comments on the finger tapping.

I'm not sure why he would put up a masquerade in front of Warren if he is unhappy. If he wants more info out of him wouldn't it be more effective to be clearly unsatisfied, thereby coaxing him into revealing more than he intended in order to preserve his reputation? The way he's acting now makes him appear an insincere backstabber. Of course this could be intentional. If there is another reason for him leading him on and only getting back at him indirectly it wasn't clear to me.

Good ending, but how did the gun get past the big guy at the door?

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Reading Excuses / Re: 12-15-08 Aspirations
« on: December 19, 2008, 07:54:21 AM »
I really hope I'm wrong as well since I really liked what you were doing with this. I guess I'll RAFO ;)

"I was wrong.  Always be careful what you wish for, you just might get it."

The first line of the first chapter is a bit of a giveaway on the wishing thing.

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Reading Excuses / Re: 12-15-08: Ace Tomato Company
« on: December 18, 2008, 03:19:47 PM »
"His mom could take torture but she hated to fly. "

That is brilliant and had me laughing out loud.

I really liked this one, so as with most stories I liked will probably end up with two pages tearing it down.

I agree with the comments on the flashback structure. From what I’ve seen here I would suggest just starting at the final and skipping that first part.

Why does he refer to himself as number 323? You mention somewhere later that he knows the names of some of the others. If those names still hold any significance why would he forgo his own, even in his own mind? (Since we are inside 323’s head, I considered all references to his name in tell as being the way he identified himself) Who is he when he identifies himself inside his own head? Is he still the one he was before he joined YIK, the one crying in the shower, or is he the trained operative who has surpassed his past and now only refers to himself as his number? (But then why does he cry in the shower?)

The explanation between the dialogue between 74 and 323 can be scratched.

It seems a bit of a discrepancy to first tell they became close over the years, and after the director arrives he breathes a sigh of relief to be rid of them. That doesn’t seem very close to me.

The director mentions they’ll be given objectives, and he finds an envelope on his desk, yet there is no mentioning how it got there. Was someone passing them out, or where they there from the start?

I fail to see how absolutely necessary is a loose term, or why it would be ironic that there would be a punishment for breaking that rule.

I’m not clear on the companies part. Will they consist of the two civilians or will they include two civilians and other non-civilians?

Insurgents is a politically charged term. If the YIK is a neutral organisation using a more neutral term might be more appropriate.  (Or just Taliban)

The introspective part is good, but again raises the question why he doesn’t refer to himself by his name if his past is still so important to him.

In the shower, you first tell us he hangs on to better memories of a simpler life and then call that the depths of his sorrow, but you just had him crawl out of the depth by clinging on to those memories.

I disagree with Silknsnow on that last line. I think it’s fine as it is. I see no point in hiding or obscuring which two names he submitted.

There, only one page ;)

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Reading Excuses / Re: A poll for "Just a thought"
« on: December 18, 2008, 12:40:26 PM »
I'm with Twinky.

(I need a shirt with that line..)

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Reading Excuses / Re: 12-15-08 Aspirations
« on: December 18, 2008, 12:38:14 PM »
I’m actually really torn about this part. I loved some of it, but hated other parts.
The ones I liked were the initial meeting with Miranda and the meeting of the in-laws.

You’ve managed to give her a feminine charm that really shines, and the dynamic between them is great to read. The in-laws part is something in which I quite like the dynamics of all the cliché roles being projected on a family of vampires giving it a nice menacing undercurrent.

The first few sentences are too fragmented. Too many commas and side-sentences which make some sentences rather hard to follow. (In the looking at the mirror line the “I had to admit” part can be scratched without any adaptation for instance)

The point where he panicked seemed too distant for me at first. After puzzling on it for a few moments I got to the timing part which was great. If you scratch the “I have to admit” part I think it would flow better and the jarring would be prevented.

Wouldn’t it be more natural for him to assume he’s meeting his wife there? Or at least have a vague hope he will? As a reader that’s what I’m expecting since that’s the person he wished for. Would his wife lay out a cowboy outfit for him?
What’s his reaction to not meeting his wife there? Sure she’s dazzling, but she’s not his wife.
He’s there to meet his wife, not his lady, or at least I as a reader am there to meet his wife.

In chapter nine it then all fell apart for me.
The conversation seems off to me; if she loves him wouldn’t she have a bit more patience with his situation? In her reactions she responds as though they are forced together however if love is ingrained in her she will delight in it, not resent him for it, or perhaps some of both in a confused mix. I miss the emotional connection that she displayed when she greeted him.

In chapter ten he looses all sight that he is the fulfilment of Miranda’s wish. She wished for a mate and got him. Thereby you also negate your rape analogy in the next chapter. They are both in a situation they wished to be in, if not exactly as they imagined it. Beside, even under the threat of death it is perfectly possible to have consensual sex at some point in the next two weeks. There are consensual one-night-stands, two weeks seems enough time to at least contemplate it becoming consensual.
I would really like to see the rape analogy gone. I think it’s off and found it very annoying because of it.

Again, if she loves him, as ingrained, and he is the fulfilment of her wish for a mate how can she accuse him of a decision between raping her and murdering her? If that is her sentiment towards him, why does she take him home to her parents?
To me it seems as though you completely forgot to take her situation and emotional position into consideration in this scene.

As I said I like the in-laws scene, however, at this point its purpose is as yet unclear to me; I assume you’re introducing them here because they’ll play a part later on. However for this part of the story there is no real reason why they couldn’t be assailed on their way there so unless you need them later you could completely scratch that scene because it doesn’t have a direct impact in this part of the story.

The stranger wanting his soul, then tossing him in hell to prevent them from actually consummating their marriage, he’s the devil. I now have a very strong suspicion about how the rest of the book will go and actually feel a bit disappointed because of it.

The final remark about the demon made him appear rather harmless. You haven’t established Jason as someone obsessed with gender issues so if that is the most remarkable thing an average person would notice about the hellspawn in front of it there must be a serious lack of things to worry about such as claws and fangs or other such things.
 

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Reading Excuses / Re: 15-12-08 - Cold Feet
« on: December 18, 2008, 09:56:43 AM »
Your use of telling details is really good. I read it as a short story and as such I really liked it up until the cigarette analogy part.

At that point the character switches from self-blame to self-pity and the latter is very hard to sympathise with as somebody pointed out already.

What I miss in this story is closure and the poetic justice of that. On the one hand I’d like to see the open doors analogy reflected in the end as you have her pick herself up and reward her for that. On the other hand I’d like to see her punished for her moping about.
As it is, I find the cyclical ending you have now very unfulfilling, in the end we’re right back where we started without any progress or change made.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Spectre's End - Dec 08
« on: December 17, 2008, 09:39:16 PM »
With things like that the main thing is that you know what you mean, to some degree we're critiquing your notes. Some of it we will misunderstand but I suppose that's OK. You'll just have to filter out which of the comments are valid, and which stem from a lack of understanding of what you have in mind.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Spectre's End - Dec 08
« on: December 17, 2008, 01:10:02 PM »
As with the others I have very little experience with screenplays. In comparison to the ones I have read this one is a lot more detailed. But then, you’ve also written out the director’s view, which is normally not in the screenplay itself, from the little I know at least.
Since this is written for yourself there’s little point in going over small unclear things since you’ll know what you actually meant even if it’s not perfectly clear to an outside reader.

Overall I liked the story, you have a good atmosphere going on and the characters are well done.

Now I’ll get to the nitpicking.

Zombies and roundhouse kicks don’t go together. They are long established as slow stupid creatures that might lurch or something. Change the movement or have a predator creature kill him if you like the dynamics.

By having the predator run through the alley you give everything a sense of urgency. This is not carried through the next scenes, lots of talk in the deathscene, he then takes time to undress and take a shower, then performs rituals and only when he’s good and ready does the adversary make his entrance.
I would prefer it if the predator leisurely watches John from the roof as he passes. This will make Peter’s pointing to the roof seem a reference to the predator, and then have it watch as John takes that shower. This way you’d get more suspense than urgency, which goes better with the following scenes.

The deathscene seemed far too slow with two people telling each other who they are and what they should know. (This might be negated somewhat if you’d change the urgency to suspense)
Peter is looking into the face of eternal damnation yet speaks politely and has time to puzzle about John’s being there. If he is really just warding off death till his mind’s set at easy, which is implied by his dying as soon as that’s the case, he would be snappier and more absorbed by his own problems.

As John divulges he has seen Peter with Uriel behind him, having him look scared and dying shortly after will convey Uriel’s significance as well.

John seems to feel no sense of wonder about who’s operating the lights that guide him. He even feels safe enough to undress and take a shower. I have a hard time believing anyone but a very battle hardened veteran pull off such composure.

The circle is drawn indoors, I therefore assume a concrete floor and no way would a dagger be able to draw that circle into that.

Your use of Christian and Templar mythology is a bit confusing. His mentioning of Christ as his lord, his use of Latin and the catholic rituals are on one side. Yet on the other he dejects being called catholic, is a Templar (who were first endorsed by, and later betrayed by the Catholic Church.) and the temple of Solomon probably refers to the one raised by the Templars and not the original one. They are allowed only to use rituals used by any church, implying other non-Christian religious rituals would also work, and at the same time not adhering to a strict lore giving it a more agnostic appearance. Then in the end you mention his former colleague being an expert on pagan occultism, again going outside a Christian framework. And they refer to the original book of Jasher, implying a knowledge of changes being made in religious texts, but they also quote the bible without the acknowledgement of the changes made in that text.
To me this was confusing and I would prefer a single set of religious rules to serve as a framework for them to operate in. (even if you don’t mention them, it should at least make all of it more consistent.)

The part where John explains about all the missing agents seemed rather redundant, and also something Tom would know. The mere fact that his former colleague betrayed him would be enough incentive in itself because it’s more personal.

The conversation between John and Tom borders on lecture-ish, in combination with the visuals however I think you could make it work. Just be on guard that you’re stretching that conversation about as far as it will go.

Tom reminding John of his status with the Templars seems redundant. They both know, and his importance was established as soon as the dispatcher told people to specifically search for him.

The power corrupts cliché seems a bit weak, but might work out if John is preoccupied enough.

Establish a Church bell ringing in the background at the start of the duel to prove they waited until the time was there.


It’s at times hard to judge if something will or will not work because at some points the visuals will determine the pace. How that will work out in the end is virtually impossible to judge for me.
I am particularly curious though how you intend to use this as the opening of a series after killing all of the characters you established here.

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