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Title: Going out in style
Post by: stacer on June 10, 2004, 04:53:13 PM
So I was talking to my roommate last night and I realized that there are now less than 2 months till my 30th birthday.  :o So help me out here, guys. What should I do for my 30th? I want to do something out of the ordinary, yet cheap. (Unless my friends are going to secretly pool to do something really big, which I doubt.) Any ideas?
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 10, 2004, 04:57:39 PM
You're turning 30??

I knew you were older than me, stacer, but I thought it was just by 4 or 5 years.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 10, 2004, 05:01:59 PM
I've been thirty for exactly 6 months now. It's ... disappointing.

Anyway. Yeah. You should drive down to DC  and have Jeffe and I teach you how to role play. *nod*
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on June 10, 2004, 05:40:48 PM
that'd work out well if someone would quit cancelling
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on June 10, 2004, 05:42:54 PM
I don't get the name of this thread.  Do you plan on dying for your 30th or what?  And if so, you should skydive.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 10, 2004, 05:44:34 PM
She's going out of her twenties.

Come on, it's a big deal.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on June 10, 2004, 05:48:49 PM
I don't really see it that way, but I am just an ignorant kid.  Go on, go on.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: stacer on June 10, 2004, 06:11:50 PM
Maybe I should have named it "Going in in style"--going into my thirties. Puts a positive spin on it.

Did I tell you what my friend Melyn did for her roommate last year? She held a funeral. JaNeece turned 29, and Melyn figured it would be funnier for her 29th than for her 30th. There were mourners, black clothes, a eulogy--the works. It sounded hilarious (I didn't go to it at the time, but she's turning 30 a few weeks before me, so maybe I'll get some ideas).

Oh, and SE, I think I will be down in the D.C. area in mid-August, though I'm not sure. I'm road-tripping home at the end of July, and it will all depend on money.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: stacer on June 10, 2004, 06:14:18 PM
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I don't get the name of this thread.  Do you plan on dying for your 30th or what?  And if so, you should skydive.


Reminds me of an AIM conversation I once had with JP--he told me that if I wrote a page a day, I'd have a book in a year. I misread it and thought he said I should write a page a year and then I'd have a book, so I answered with, "Yeah, then I'd have a book by the time I died," which understandably freaked him out--what, was I going to kill myself next year?

Careful reading makes all the difference...
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: JP Dogberry on June 10, 2004, 06:42:01 PM
Yes. It's generally not a good idea to tell people you have gotten to know you over the net that you'll die in a year.  It generally does scare us.

Your Friend Mod loves you. Friend Mod says it is only because he loves you that he must see all communications going into and out of your home, and remove the ones he doesn't agree with. </Weird amalgamation of 1984 and Paranoia.>
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: House of Mustard on June 10, 2004, 07:16:26 PM
Speaking of reading things wrong, I had to read that paragraph three times before I realized you meant 'moderator' rather than 'mistress of darkness'.  I couldn't understand why you were telling stacer that MoD loved her...
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: JP Dogberry on June 10, 2004, 07:27:00 PM
Sorry. If I were referring to MoD, it would be MoD, not Mod. Note the subtle difference.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: House of Mustard on June 10, 2004, 07:35:19 PM
Oh, I noted it.  On this board, however, I've learned not to trust either spelling or capitalization.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 10, 2004, 07:50:53 PM
Wise words.

Which gives me an idea stacer.  You should have a wild night for your 30th birthday.  Go nuts! Listen to bad rap music and wear ridiculous clothes!  Spell everything incorrectly, and use terrible grammar!  Follow teenagers around and hit on them while mimicking their behavior.

Then when you're done you'll be happy to be an adult.

(kidding)
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on June 10, 2004, 08:53:52 PM
The title of the thread is very Logans Run.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: Maxwell on June 10, 2004, 09:31:19 PM
going out in style... I say rent a limo and have you and all your freinds dress real fancy then have them drive around to  like the drive thru at burger king or McDonalds and then go and play a round of mini-golf at 9:30 at night(it's ruined if you dont pull up in a limo and wear the fancy clothes)
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on June 10, 2004, 09:44:19 PM
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something out of the ordinary, yet cheap.


Limos are expensive.  Suites are expensive.  Putt-putt for a lot of people is expensive.  Not a great budget idea.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 10, 2004, 10:02:24 PM
Actually it's just not a great idea.

Highschoolers can do that.  She's going to be 30.  That's a great way to make an impression on people in the community, who you work for and with.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on June 10, 2004, 10:50:39 PM
I was gonna say something along those lines but I was afraid it would come back and bite me in the butt with a

"I can still be a teenager" route, which I have heard one too many times...
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on June 11, 2004, 07:13:18 AM
Host a dinner party (thats what adults do right?) and give it a crrrazy 50's theme. Dress a little like Donna Reed and make lots of finger food and play groovy music. Then screen a movie at your place for all your guests.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 11, 2004, 07:30:05 AM
oo wee oo i look just like Buddy Holly.
oh oh and you're mary tyler moore.

*nod*
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: Entsuropi on June 11, 2004, 08:22:58 AM
Have an anarchist birthday party - start some fires, engage in a riot, loiter menacingly.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: JP Dogberry on June 11, 2004, 08:26:16 AM
Umm...that isn't anarchy. That's stupidity.

Anarchism is at its very core non-violent.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: Entsuropi on June 11, 2004, 08:29:32 AM
You've just been mindwashed.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: JP Dogberry on June 11, 2004, 08:33:04 AM
www.anarchyfaq.org
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: Entsuropi on June 11, 2004, 08:34:31 AM
http://www.MINDWASHED-FOOL.com
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 11, 2004, 09:09:00 AM
the problem with this communication, actually, is that JP is referring to a very specialized interpretation of anarchy. Most people understand that, while anarchy would not be total violence, an increase in violence would probably increase if there was no law to act as a deterrant.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: JP Dogberry on June 11, 2004, 09:10:10 PM
Perhaps there would be an increase in violence, but that is not anarchy - that is anarchy failing. Anarchy believes that no-one should have power over another person. Violence is excerting power over another person. Therefore, if you have violence being committed, those people are not anarchists, and the anarchy has failed.

And yes, I do agree that that is usually the most likely occurance.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 11, 2004, 09:24:11 PM
now, I know what you're talking about, but your choice of words is way off. "true" definition is out.

Here are dictionary definitions of "anarchy"
thefreedictionary.com:
"lawlessness"

dictionary.com
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1. Absence of any form of political authority.
2. Political disorder and confusion.
3. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.


Merriam Webster
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1 a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government
2 a : absence or denial of any authority or established order b : absence of order : DISORDER <not manicured plots but a wild anarchy of nature -- Israel Shenker>


Only one of the three even mentions your definition, and that is not the primary definition. I think you would do better by saying "I use this word as" rather than "the real definition" approach, because the definition MOST people use is the first one I put on here. "Lawlessness." And, as EUOL will tell you, how the word is used determines the definition.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: JP Dogberry on June 12, 2004, 08:27:09 AM
As opposed to the definition used by anarchists themselves? I think they can define their own political beliefs.

Oh, and of course those definitions weren't accurate. They were illuminati written to discredit anarchy.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 12, 2004, 09:02:33 AM
Sitting around arguing about what anarchy means now, boys?

And how old are we?
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: Entsuropi on June 12, 2004, 09:06:38 AM
By your reasoning Jam, the correct definition of terrorism is that used by the terrorists themselves, which is something along the lines of, 'Righteous blah blah struggle against blah blah christian crusaders', or some variation thereof.

Whereas in fact the actual definition is, 'Cowardly acts of sabotage commited by idiots too weak to fight like real men, aimed at causing political and economic disruption'.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: JP Dogberry on June 12, 2004, 09:08:36 AM
But do terrorists call themselves terrorists? I thought they called themselves "Freedom Fighters" or something like that. I can't imagine they'd choose to name themselves terrorists, as opposed to Anarchists, who refer to themselves using the word.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 12, 2004, 09:21:08 AM
http://www.ozyandmillie.org/2001/om20010603.html

Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 12, 2004, 09:39:33 AM
JP, YOU are not the only type of anarchist who calls himself such. What you are talking about is ONE specific type of anarchy. It by no means encompasses the meaning of anarchy as a whole.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: Spriggan on June 12, 2004, 10:44:46 AM
I think the looking in a Thesaurus sheds a lot of light on the word too:

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Text: 1 absence of effective government or the resulting social disorder <complete anarchy followed the breakdown of communications>
Synonyms chaos, lawlessness, mobocracy, ochlocracy
Related Word confusion, disorder, disorganization
Idioms mob rule (or law), reign of terror
2
Synonyms ANARCHISM
3
Synonyms DISORDER 2, anarchism, distemper, misrule, riot


Now JP we know you're not that type of anarchist, I don't even know wich type there are more of in the world, but we all know the violent anarchists are the most outspoke.  These are the people that goto large orginized protests (like the g8 summet or world bank) and then turn them into violent riots.  Remember in Italy about 2-3 years ago where cops there had to kill some protestors?  Those were members of a professional arnarchist group that went around the world causeing violence in mass crowds hurting people and destroying propertiy.  Why?  Becasuse they beleave no one should own anythings and that there should be no laws.  Most people in the world don't even know that there is an "Utopian" section of anarchy.  I think SE is right, instead of assumeing that people know about you're type of anarchy you should assume that they don't and explaine your position.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: Spriggan on June 12, 2004, 10:48:30 AM
Now here's another tearm

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Entry Word: anarchism
Function: noun
Text: 1 a political theory opposed to all forms of government and advocating voluntary cooperation and interaction of individuals and groups in satisfying their common needs <the doubtful premises of anarchism about human nature>
Synonyms anarchy
Related Word utopianism; communism, Marxism, syndicalism
Contrasted Words absolutism, authoritarianism, dictatorship; elitism
2
Synonyms DISORDER 2, anarchy, distemper, misrule, riot


So here you have the "Philiophsy" aspect of it, which is what you, JP, beleave in.  The two words are obviosly related, yet have completly different meanings.

Note:  Both of these deffinitions are from Websters.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: JP Dogberry on June 12, 2004, 07:32:46 PM
That's why I linked to www.anarchyfaq.org. It can explain it far better than I ever can.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 13, 2004, 09:26:28 AM
all I'm really saying, JP, is that while the way you use "anarchy" is correct, it is incorrect to tell other people they're using it wrong, when they have used it correctly, just a different - more common, in fact - denotation.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 13, 2004, 02:45:29 PM
Stacer, I hope you don't want your thread back.  It's kinda used. Slightly soiled.
Title: Re: Going out in style
Post by: stacer on June 13, 2004, 03:17:31 PM
Yeah, I figured it wasn't really ever going to get back on topic.