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Title: A title!  A title!
Post by: House of Mustard on November 10, 2003, 07:45:39 PM
We have finally got a title:

"On Second Thought..."

Yeah.  Whatever.

And the release date has been bumped up to February - the audio will come out at the same time.
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Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 10, 2003, 07:52:31 PM
eh. It doesn't say much. I can't remember your old title, but I think it was more amusing. Anyway, you're being published, so "YAY!" When are YOU buying us all lunch?
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Post by: Mistress of Darkness on November 10, 2003, 08:42:40 PM
Unfortunately, he already did. You and I were not included, title suggestions not withstanding.

Congrats HoM! That's great news. Though I feel just as neutral as you about the title, it would, at least get me to pick up the book and look at the back.
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Post by: Fellfrosch on November 11, 2003, 01:54:57 AM
Cool, Mustard. We'll have to organize a big "first day purchase campaign" to make sure the bookstores make some healthy reorders.
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Post by: House of Mustard on November 11, 2003, 02:08:27 AM
For those keeping track at home:  Tonight I cut seven thouand words.  Eight thousand more to go.  The sad thing is that I cut everything that wasn't vital.

Oh well, I guess people that are too lazy to read the book shouldn't be offended by a choppy, disjointed story.
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Post by: EUOL on November 11, 2003, 07:46:05 PM
HoM didn't buy anyone dinner--he just had a party.  You see, he didn't get an advance for his novel (because Covenant is cheap) nor was he foolish enough to promise his writing groups he'd buy them a meal when he got published.  
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Post by: Morag on January 13, 2004, 05:14:52 PM
 ???

Well I know this forum is more about HoM's title but I am just starting a new book and well it has no title.  Some of you who were in my writing group a long time ago may remember a chapter I wrote about a little boy names Koshin who just happend to be the son of the High priestess of a religion that dominated a vaguely asian empire, it was the one with the tea.

Well I need a title for this new book.  I know most of you don't know anything about it and those who read the first chapter years ago well a lot has changed.  

But the current title is just Koshin
pononced like
'ko' from coke
'shi' is like she (the female pronoun)
and the 'n' is well like any other n

Just start sending titles who know maybe one of you will get inspired.  I know as much about this new book as any one and I have no idea what to call it so clearly knowledge of the book in not the decideding actor in knowing what to name it.
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Post by: Mistress of Darkness on January 13, 2004, 05:27:45 PM
The Terrors of Tea ;D

Actually Koshin is a perfectly acceptable title.

I'm not really coming up with anything serious:
Tea Time Machinations
Cult of Tea
Control

That doesn't help, but it might help somone come up with something useful.
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Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 13, 2004, 07:27:31 PM
hey, I think *I* read that one.

I have to agree with MoD, Koshin is a fine working title. When you have the whole thing outlined, that may be an impetus for a different title if you need one.
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Post by: Mistress of Darkness on January 13, 2004, 07:39:16 PM
And as HoM found out, the publisher might make you change it anyway.
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Post by: fuzzyoctopus on January 13, 2004, 08:47:43 PM
"A title!  A title! We have got a title, and we need no more title!"

(Sorry, that's just the first thing that keeps popping into my mind whenever I read this thread...)
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Post by: EUOL on January 13, 2004, 08:50:28 PM
I was going to suggest that such things aren't as common in mainstream publishing, but I realized that Tor changed my book title (though it was, like most of the changes we've made, very much a mutual agreement.)  We shortened THE SPIRIT OF ELANTRIS to simply ELANTRIS.

Anyway, Morag.  I like Koshin.  It gives a feel for the book, since it's Asian-themed, and is kind of catchy.
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Post by: stacer on January 13, 2004, 11:18:41 PM
I like Koshin as well. It's got a good strong sound to it, and it's original.

And then you can say A title! A title! I have got a title! (Fuzzy, I thought I was the only one.)
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Post by: Spriggan on January 14, 2004, 07:57:56 AM
so it's basicaly the Japanese pronucation.  Anyway short titles are actualy better because they're easier to remember and pick out when scanning through a bunch of books at the store.
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Post by: 42 on January 14, 2004, 02:53:31 PM
Short titles also allow for better, larger display text on the cover and spine, which makes it more appealing to people browsing.
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Post by: EUOL on January 15, 2004, 12:59:38 AM
Which are both reasons, incidentally, why they cut my novel's title down.
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Post by: fuzzyoctopus on January 15, 2004, 01:54:22 AM
Just as well, since I had completely forgotten it was ever called "The Spirit of Elantris" and have been thinking of it as Elantris for probably 2 years or more.
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Post by: Mistress of Darkness on January 15, 2004, 12:39:53 PM
Me too.
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Post by: Fellfrosch on January 15, 2004, 05:28:37 PM
I think you should call it "The Book I Am Writing About a Kid Named Koshin Who Drinks Tea." I'm really bad at titles--I always have other people name my books.
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Post by: Mistress of Darkness on January 15, 2004, 05:50:25 PM
Or TBIAWAAKNKWDT for short.

If you can pronouce it.
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Post by: Morag on January 19, 2004, 05:43:34 PM
Well it sounds like TBIAWAAKNKWDT is the winner who wouldn't pick a book off the shelf with that title.  I mean you have to find out what it sdands for I read what it stands for and still cann't remember what it means :o
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Post by: Xaio on February 24, 2004, 06:40:23 PM
Hey, u never know, they might actually accept it... if they're drugged or under pain of death :D
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Post by: Tekiel on March 01, 2004, 08:27:11 PM
Just received this in the mail:

"Robison Wells is pleased to announce the release of his first book
On Second Thought  
The first week of March 2004"

Congrats!
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Post by: House of Mustard on March 02, 2004, 11:05:59 AM
Well hooray!  I got more than half of those back in the mail demanding more postage, so I'm glad to see that some of those actually made it to their intended destination!
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Post by: EUOL on March 02, 2004, 11:46:53 PM
You sent out your own mailers?  Interesting.  How did you decide who got one?
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Post by: House of Mustard on March 03, 2004, 10:26:18 AM
I was limited by a tiny budget (being poor, as I am) so I sent them out to people that I know that I don't see very often.  I assumed that the people I see regularly would already know about the book.

Actually, EUOL, you were on the list, but your address isn't listed anywhere on earth and Ben wouldn't give it to me.
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Post by: EUOL on March 04, 2004, 12:06:43 AM
I think you misunderstood my intent.  That wasn't a "why didn't I get one?" comment.  It was a "Interesting.  A professional in my field doing marketing.  I wonder what his theory on doing it is, and if he thinks it was a success."
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Post by: House of Mustard on March 04, 2004, 11:25:21 AM
Ah.  The theory is simply that I want to sell as many books as possible during the first couple weeks of release.  I doubt that something like this would have any effect on a book released in the national market, but I think it could work well for an LDS book.  If I can even get 200 people to head out and buy the book during it's first week, then I think the marketing was worth it.  In a market where 70% of the target audience is along the Wasatch Front, word-of-mouth could be very effective.