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The Legend of Zorro
« on: November 04, 2005, 03:01:01 PM »
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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2005, 06:47:54 PM »
I cant help but feel that this movie would have been better if Robert Rodriguez had directed it.
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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2005, 07:12:37 PM »
i wasn't too thrilled with the first one, i am probably going to miss this one too.
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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2005, 10:11:58 PM »
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I cant help but feel that this movie would have been better if Robert Rodriguez had directed it.


I think Robert Rodriguez very possibly could have made the film substantially worse than it was, and that is saying something. I don't get why people like him so much. It doesn't impress me in the least that he made "El Mariachi" for $7,000 when it looks like he made it for $700, and "From Dusk 'Till Dawn" is a travesty. I'll admit that "Sin City" had some impressive visuals, but in general I think very little of him as a director.
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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2005, 10:22:57 PM »
Your entitled to your opinion of Dusk Till Dawn... I liked it though.

Spy Kids was certainly fun. In fact Spy Kids 2 was actually fun.

And Sin City was awesome.

so

but the first Zorro blew chunks, so I hold no gripping desire to see a second one.



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And the director of the new Zorro certainly hasnt done anything that I would consider good... unless you count his episode of Reily Ace of Spys
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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2005, 11:24:42 PM »
"The Mask of Zorro" was what it was - the essence of classic "Zorro." It sounds to me like you didn't want something that was true to the feel of Zorro.

I like "Mask of Zorro" and "GoldenEye," though they do both drag in places. "GoldenEye" certainly isn't a great film, but no Bond movie ever was.

Frankly, "Sin City" and "From Dusk 'Til Dawn" are two of the only movies I have ever walked out on in my life. "Sin City" was very well done, but it was too graphic for my personal taste (again, I think it was an impressive peice of filmmaking) and "Dusk" was stupid BEFORE they started turning into vampires. As soon as that happened, I refused to watch the rest of it.

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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2005, 02:51:36 AM »
I liked the first Zorro. I would like to see this one, but I've been kind of feeling like it was one to wait to hit the Dollar Theater, and after reading this review I think I'll do that.
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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2005, 11:36:40 AM »
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"The Mask of Zorro" was what it was - the essence of classic "Zorro." It sounds to me like you didn't want something that was true to the feel of Zorro.

No

It wasnt the essence of classic Zorro. Im a classic Zorro fan, back to the black and white TV days.


The Mask of Zorro bothered me because of the boring and phoned in performances by everyone in the cast including Anthony Hopkins. Most people were distracted by the acting of Zeta Jones heaving bosum which gave the best performance of the movie, that or Banderas's pectorals. The effects were boring, and the story a real snoozer.

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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2005, 12:33:49 PM »
I liked the first Zorro movie, it was a fun popcorn flick.  I'm not a Zorro Expert so I'll take Jeffe's word at they're different.
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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2005, 09:33:14 AM »
Having seen quite a lot of zorro, ranging from the Disney show to Zorro: The Gay Blade, I have to vociferously disagree with Jeffe. I wasn't the biggest fan of the movie, but I can't think of any errors or significant problems with it. It was, over all, a good flick, and pretty true to the feel of Zorro across the board.

Dusk Till Dawn, though, ew. I mean, I've really only seen the vampire part, which was pretty ridiculous and stupid. I'm told that leading up to the vampire part is the good bit, but if that's the case, why am I watching a vampire flick if the only good bits are those without vampires?

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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2005, 09:39:32 AM »
I guess we can agree to disagree on Zorro. Although I thought cultured Don Diego in the Disney Series was a lot more compelling than the ex convict Don Diego in the movie. Its like if batman had been a Street Punk instead of a Billionaire (Robin).  Maybe its just that I think the Fairbanks version is the best. But Im pretty sure I wont be watching the new one.

Dusk till Dawn wasnt any worse than the Creepshow series of movies, which were pretty entertaining... The best part about it was that they werent below making Vampires cheezy, and chewing up all the stupid cliches that make Vampire movies kind of dumb. And they did it a lot better than Mel Brook's Dracula parody.
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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2005, 11:24:20 AM »
well, to be fair, it's more like Bruce Wayne got arrested and spend a very long time in jail, then broke out and taught a street punk to replace him as Batman.

THe Don Diego at the beginning of MoZ IS the cultured Don Diego. His identity is revealed, and he spends a couple decades in jail, finally breaking out. So he can't exactly return to his money.

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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2005, 01:10:42 PM »
the real Zorro would have never been captured.
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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2005, 01:19:02 PM »
weak.

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Re: The Legend of Zorro
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2005, 07:49:36 PM »
I object to the notion that Anthony Hopkins was hopelessly miscast in the first Zorro. He was excellent and played each emotion and scene perfectly.