Races of Eberron

[Spriggan]

I always thought SE was an adjective?  Guess I've been using it wrong all this time.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

adjectives can be used as nouns

[Spriggan]

not in Japanese, well unless you're useing a Nounafier (and yes that's a word used to describe it).

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

when did we start speaking Japanese?

[Fellfrosch]

We're not telling you, stupid gaijin.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

oh like you know. You're just pretending so everyone will thin you're cool.

[Spriggan]

na that doesn't work, I use to pretend and no one what I was thin cool that died doesn't work.  Now I'm just myself and fat cool.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

you just go on thinking that.

[Spriggan]

Ok I'm very disappointed in this book, it's really useful if you want to play a Warforged or a Shifter and can be of good use for the other 2 new Ebberon races but it's a big pile of steaming crap for every other race.  The racial feats are 80%+ just for Warforged and Shifters, the alternate class abilities are just for the new races despite several old races being presented different in Ebberon.

Since it's a brown covered book and not a black covered book that means it's not an Ebberon book but a generic D&D book so they reprinted lots of feats and racial info from the Ebberon Setting book, they should have cut this out to make room for other stuff.

I'm tired of Wizards giving some races the short end of the stick (halflings, gnomes, orcs, halfelfs) and basically only thinking people want to play Human, Elves, Dwarfs and now Warforged and Shifters.  This is just another huge disappointment from the "Races of X" line of books.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

y'know, I'm not disappointed at all that gnomes and halflings get the shaft.

[Spriggan]

One of the problems with Gnomes, halflings and others is they're too generic which is what these books (races of X) and others are supposed to change, yet they focus all their time on what is either Wizard's or the author's favorites so some races are very appealing to players while others are too bland.

[Fellfrosch]

The thing is, they already covered non-Eberron races in their other books, so doing them again here wouldn't have made any sense at all (especially since you already griped about them reprinting material). They hit the non-Eberron races just enough to talk about the differences, and there's no point in going any further. I don't see how you can fault the book for being exactly what it advertises.

[Spriggan]

Well for one the races of books were horrible for the most part so I'm not wanting reprinted "fluff" what I wanted were more racial feats, more prestige classes and substation classes thats whats needed not 10 pages about how that races lives.  When you look at all the stuff for the shifters and then compare it to any other race you see a bias, even the Warforged don't have as much stuff as the Shifters.

So I want a reason to think Halflings are cool, Races of Wild didn't do that that book almost ignored them, and while the Ebberon setting offers a nice twist on them there's noting in races of Ebberon to make them as "cool" as Warforged or Shifters.  

What I would like is just a book thats full of racial feats (near equal numbers for each race) racial substation levels for every class and lots of prestige classes and lots of those new cool spells where if members of a certain race casts them they have different bonuses with out much fluff.  Kinda of how the Complete books were.

[Fellfrosch]

It's not a bias, it's an explicitly stated purpose: they went into huge detail on the Eberron-only races, and gave a few details on the others. What you ask for sounds like a cool book, but I don't see why you were disappointed that Races of Eberron wasn't it.

[Spriggan]

Because they didn't even bother covering half the Ebberon other races either!  There's almost nothing for Changelings compared to Shifters.  Plus, as I stated in my first post, several of the races are presented differently in Ebberon then standard D&D so it would have been nice to get something rule wise to show that difference.