Mr.P's Semester Roundup

[stacer]

If you can't afford Provo, where in the world can you afford? Provo's got one of the lowest standards of living in the nation, above only Idaho, Missouri, and Arkansas. I would love to live in Provo again, pay the rent I used to pay there -- 1/3 of what I now pay.

Of course, I feel your pain--lower rent, but lower wages, too.

[Brenna]

Not just lower wages, fewer jobs.  Unless you like working for minimum wage, which most people don't (and minimum wage doesn't pay bills very well)., Provo's job market isn't the best at the moment...

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

I think you're missing a fundamental factor: Once she graduates, she can get a full time career started. which is hard to do as an undergrad.

[fuzzyoctopus]

Yeah- two paychecks instead of one.  And we can move to wherever offers J.T. a good fulltime job for doing something he LIKES instead of him working two jobs he hates and being miserable all the time.

[stacer]

I was really just bemoaning my outrageous rent prices in relation to Provo. From what I've heard, though, the job market in Provo is worse than it ever it was when I was there, and that's pretty bad. Why can't we have both? Low rent, good paying jobs. Is that too much to ask?  :-/

[fuzzyoctopus]

I'm leaving just in time, too.  BYU just started a new policy - all BYU approved housing has to be within a 2 mile radius of the campus.  Estimates are that this will drive housing costs right back up.

[stacer]

How in the world do they think that's possible? Are they still trying to do that SCAMP thing or something? Provo doesn't need high rises.

[fuzzyoctopus]

I believe the official reason is that places further away from campus are harder to moniter and to make sure that the "spiritual environment" is healthy and perfect and crap.

Of course I'm sure this has nothing at all to do with the Off-Campus Housing office, and their own desires.  And nothing at all to do with the fact that all people who make up the Off-Campus Housing department are LANDLORDS IN PROVO.  Nope.  That doesn't scream "conflict of interest" at all.

*mutters obscenities under her breath*

Oh, and yes, they are still trying to do the SCAMP thing.  And it still keeps getting "set back."  

[Entsuropi]

/me snickers as he considers the state of the "spiritual enviroment" at his house

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

Provo real estate needs to stuff it. In fact, nearly ever business I had the displeasure of working for or purchasing from or taking service from while I lived in Provo absolutely sucked. Mormons seem to run terrible businesses, on the whole.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

So glad I skipped out on BYU

[fuzzyoctopus]

Some parts of BYU are great.  But it needs to stop billing itself and its employees as perfect.

The price is right, and I've been VERY impressed with the education I've received.

[Entsuropi]

The price is right, and I've been VERY impressed with the education I've received.

I find that no university is even cheaper, and i am impressed with not having to do education anymore

But, can you compare your education to that provided by another university? Realistically?

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

Realistically? BYU is a great education. Academically speaking it's barely below the level of schools like UVA and Chapel Hill: the "not quite Ivy League but almost" schools. Yeah, a BYU education is better than probably 75% or more of the universities out there.

[Spriggan]

and considering the cost for LDS church members to go there.  It's what 1,800 with health insurnace?