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Re: Vin as HOA?
« Reply #210 on: September 11, 2008, 01:50:10 AM »
The kandra religion hmm.  I'll do some diggin in my rereads.  Whenever I finish life of Pi that is.
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Re: Vin as HOA?
« Reply #211 on: September 11, 2008, 01:54:01 AM »
Everyone knows I'm the Hero of Ages. Think of it this way:

Brandon says the epigraphs in the third book are written by someone who "knows everything". This person believes to be the Hero of Ages.

Since I know everything, that must mean I'm the Hero of Ages.

...And I don't want to hear any business like "you don't know the end of MB3" or "you suck with logic", lol.
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Re: Vin as HOA?
« Reply #212 on: September 11, 2008, 01:55:03 AM »
I forgot to add something in my last post

CURSE YOU OOKLA! (And yes, those all caps were meant to be rude).
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« Reply #213 on: September 11, 2008, 01:58:37 AM »
I forgot to add something in my last post

CURSE YOU OOKLA! (And yes, those all caps were meant to be rude).

Conversely, I say "THANK YOU OOKLA", because he's given us some great clues that I wouldn't have thought of myself.

...Also, I already knew I would say that, because I'm the Hero of Ages.
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« Reply #214 on: September 11, 2008, 04:26:51 AM »
Off topic i know but i wouldnt be the first. lol. chaos2651 as the HOA, im a believer. Anyway, do you guys have any suggestions for any other good reads? it feels like i've read everything that fantasy has to offer. don't tell anyone but i had a dream that the situation became so dire that i picked up a Stephen King novel! huuuh...i still get goosebumps looking back to it. Help. Or, im of the needing of the help? that was supposed to be a Spookian accent, in case you probably, and most likely didn't figure.
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« Reply #215 on: September 11, 2008, 04:32:07 AM »
Also, for those who were talking about kandra in this thread, that was really off-topic. So, I created a topic specifically for that reason!

Let's move all that stuff here.

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Re: Vin as HOA?
« Reply #216 on: September 11, 2008, 06:10:51 AM »
You obviously can't be the hero, chaos, because I am the hero.
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« Reply #217 on: September 11, 2008, 06:37:24 AM »
Ah, but since you are the Executor of my Opinions, and me being the Hero of Ages would be an opinion of mine, then therefore, you are automatically bound to agree that I am the Hero.

You can't even give me crap for not "being absent", because I could always just go to class. That way, I would technically be absent and then you'd have to Execute my opinions.
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Re: Vin as HOA?
« Reply #218 on: September 11, 2008, 07:11:50 PM »
OK.  With the new sample chapter up, surely we can make some guesses?

The possibility that Rashek is the author of the bumps seems to have gone up significantly (if you hadn't noticed, the power was used poorly when TLR took it.  The chapter two bump seems to say why it was used poorly.)  If that little description is even partly right, well, I'd be scared out of my mind to hold the power.

If that really makes him the Hero of Ages is still up for debate.
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« Reply #219 on: September 11, 2008, 09:06:56 PM »
I guess all the evidence points towards Rashek writing the bumps but something doesn't feel right. Rashek was a packman; he doesn't seem like the most educated type. Would he really write down a journal? Plus the style just doesn't seem quite like him. I am going to hold by my theory that the bumps are Sazed's journal found by Vin halfway through the book.
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« Reply #220 on: September 11, 2008, 09:12:43 PM »
Hmm...? Happyman, are you saying that since Alendi was not the actual HOA and that since....oh i forget his name--the terrisman who at first announced Alendi as HOA but then thought better...ok anyways. Im confused, are you saying that the terrisman not only figured out that Alendi wasn't the HOA but thought it was Rashevak? He does state some attributes about his nephew( that he hates what his people are doing, letting a nonterrisman be the HOA, and that he hates Alendi more acutely). Can those be traits he bears in his metalminds of what the HOA would be like? Im i making any sense?
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« Reply #221 on: September 11, 2008, 11:42:13 PM »
I don't think that Kwaan thought that Rashek was the hero, he just wanted to prevent alendi from taking the power. To do this, he may very well have told Rashek that he was the hero, and Rashek took on the role.

And, Reaves, Rashek has 1000 years between the ascension and now to learn to read and write. I'm sure he could have managed it quite well. And I think all-knowing is a pretty good style for the lord ruler to write in.

Ah, but since you are the Executor of my Opinions, and me being the Hero of Ages would be an opinion of mine, then therefore, you are automatically bound to agree that I am the Hero.

You can't even give me crap for not "being absent", because I could always just go to class. That way, I would technically be absent and then you'd have to Execute my opinions.


It's kind of ironic, I was actually going to claim the "not absent" bit. Well, since I made up a good portion of the title, I'll simply have to change it to "in the event of his extended absence."

And also, I'm now officially naming Chaos as the executor of my opinions in the event of my absence. Thus, he is required to support my opinions as well as me being required to support his, so we are now in the friendly town of paradox-ville....

...except I can just be absent for a few hours and Chaos will have to support me, because his title is just in the event of my absence, while mine is now in the event of his extended absence. I win.
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Re: Vin as HOA?
« Reply #222 on: September 12, 2008, 12:09:48 AM »
And, Reaves, Rashek has 1000 years between the ascension and now to learn to read and write. I'm sure he could have managed it quite well. And I think all-knowing is a pretty good style for the lord ruler to write in.


Its not that I'm saying he couldn't read and write, its just the style of script doesn't seem like Rashek. Its just a feeling.
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« Reply #223 on: September 12, 2008, 04:40:13 AM »
I'm inclined to disagree, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see who's right.
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Re: Vin as HOA?
« Reply #224 on: September 12, 2008, 04:46:17 AM »
And, Reaves, Rashek has 1000 years between the ascension and now to learn to read and write. I'm sure he could have managed it quite well. And I think all-knowing is a pretty good style for the lord ruler to write in.


Its not that I'm saying he couldn't read and write, its just the style of script doesn't seem like Rashek. Its just a feeling.

I posted a thought about that in HOA Chapter 2:

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My thought is that the Rashek, at first burning the power, had no idea what he was getting into. He changed things unintentionally, without knowing about the dire, dire consequences. However, notice the difference in tone between the MB3 epigraphs and the Lord Ruler in MB1. There's almost a hesitation in him, directly post-Ascension.

Perhaps his mind had broken into what he turned into later, consumed from the guilt from what he'd done, transforming him into the hard, cold Lord Ruler.

I didn't post the whole thing, but it could be worth your while to take a look at that topic, too.

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It's kind of ironic, I was actually going to claim the "not absent" bit. Well, since I made up a good portion of the title, I'll simply have to change it to "in the event of his extended absence."

And also, I'm now officially naming Chaos as the executor of my opinions in the event of my absence. Thus, he is required to support my opinions as well as me being required to support his, so we are now in the friendly town of paradox-ville....

...except I can just be absent for a few hours and Chaos will have to support me, because his title is just in the event of my absence, while mine is now in the event of his extended absence. I win.

Short Version: I refuse :P

Long Version: Since you can warp your title to fit your needs, I could do the same thing for yours, too. I'm thinking "The Executor of Shoving Knives Down People's Throats Who Don't Believe I'm the Hero of Ages".

But, of course, since I refuse, I guess you won't have to worry about that contingency.
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