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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #105 on: May 10, 2006, 12:07:05 PM »
Well, we have had an interesting turn of events. TLE will continue to be sponsored by BYU!

Previously we mentioned that we could not find a department that would be home to us. Well, it turns out that the reason Linguistics and English Language department wouldn't take us is they thought English was bluffing. Apparently this has happened in the past where English was trying to get rid of a student journal and asked Linguistics to take it. When Linguistics said no, English would be like, fine, we'll keep it. So they figured it was the same deal.

So Matt was trying to get things squared away to make the magazine independent and Linda Adams found out that it was officially happening and she went to talk to the Linguistics chair, Lynn Henrichsen, once again. When he found out that TLE would officially leave BYU, he realized it was not a bluff and said that they could take it into his department. Dr. Alan Manning has volunteered to be our advisor (I believe he has written a sci-fi novel previously). So it looks like that for now we're good. The university will be switching the budget for the magazine over to Linguistics, so we won't have to worry about budget issues (I'd gotten the impression that the English department used their budget to pay for TLE, but it actually comes down from higher up, I'm not sure where, so that will just be transferred over).

Also, Dr. Manning wants to be way involved. He wants to come to TLE once a week! In a way I'm worried about his excessive involvement, but I applaud his enthusiasm. And hey, isn't it great that we're going to continue with BYU?

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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #106 on: May 10, 2006, 12:21:30 PM »
I'm so glad to hear that. Did our letters make any difference?
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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #107 on: May 10, 2006, 12:29:52 PM »
AWESOME! I'm very pleased. And, i'll still do volunteer work that can be done electronically.

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« Reply #108 on: May 10, 2006, 12:31:26 PM »
Wow, that's great! What a relief.
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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #109 on: May 10, 2006, 12:34:06 PM »
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I'm so glad to hear that. Did our letters make any difference?


I really don't know. Since they were sent to the English department, which had no influence over the decision made by the Linguistics department, I doubt it factored in to the Linguistics department deciding to take TLE. It was more that Linguistics realized that English was not bluffing. Of course, that doesn't mean that it didn't help. I just don't know. I wonder if those letters, sent to Linguistics as a thank you for taking TLE (along with what was mentioned about how great TLE was for your careers and what not) might not help them realize what a great decision they made. Maybe they'll remember those letters if they ever wonder if TLE is a benefit.

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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #110 on: May 10, 2006, 12:34:42 PM »
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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #111 on: May 10, 2006, 12:35:31 PM »
a thank you letter would not be out of order, I think. We're all ready to write letters of protest, but I think we should show the linguistics department how glad we are they did this.

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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #112 on: May 10, 2006, 12:38:01 PM »
I had a class from Manning.  He's definitely enthusiastic about subjects he likes (to the point of making the class REALLY hard).  He can also be rather stubborn about his opinions (to the point of refusing to make the class any easier--even when the averages on tests were like in the Ds, as I recall).  Should be an interesting experience.  But congrats on the success.

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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #113 on: May 10, 2006, 12:53:14 PM »
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I had a class from Manning.  He's definitely enthusiastic about subjects he likes (to the point of making the class REALLY hard).  He can also be rather stubborn about his opinions (to the point of refusing to make the class any easier--even when the averages on tests were like in the Ds, as I recall).  Should be an interesting experience.  But congrats on the success.


Very intersting.  I'm glad that TLE will stay at BYU - much happiness and making things much easier for everyone.

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Dr. Alan Manning has volunteered to be our advisor (I believe he has written a sci-fi novel previously).


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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2006, 12:53:56 PM »
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a thank you letter would not be out of order, I think. We're all ready to write letters of protest, but I think we should show the linguistics department how glad we are they did this.


Agreed - and the more thank you letters the better, I'm all over this one.
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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2006, 02:04:17 PM »
Yeah, I'll send one. Can you give me an address?
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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #116 on: May 10, 2006, 02:44:07 PM »
That was a bit a good news. I would have been really upset had BYU dropped TLE. I'm still dissappointed in the English dept., but that's nothing new. I'm glad the Linguistic Dept. is so level headed.
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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #117 on: May 10, 2006, 03:34:49 PM »
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Yeah, I'll send one. Can you give me an address?


Department of Linguistics and English Language
4064 JFSB
Provo, Utah  84602

I'm not sure who you would want to address it to. You could address it to Dr. Lynn Henrichsen, the chair of Linguistics; Phyllis Daniel, the department secretary; or Dr. Alan Manning, the new TLE advisor.

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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #118 on: May 10, 2006, 05:56:00 PM »
That is really good news. It would be horrible if BYU dropped TLE. I'll get my "thank you" letter out before the end of the week.
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Re: The Vagaries of University Bureaucracy (TLE)
« Reply #119 on: May 11, 2006, 12:16:06 PM »
I'll write a thank you letter today. This is wonderful news.
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