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Quote from: happyman on November 22, 2008, 08:02:02 PM

You can't plagiarize ideas.  And borrowing ideas isn't immoral, either.

Exactly.   But one could also say that Goodkind just took longer to get his story in order.   With epics like this, you don't just write on the fly.   You build the world, you build the history, you build an outline, and then you carefully tread forward.   I've heard Jordan originally expected to do it in three books, then in six.   RJ and TG may have had an agreement or something where TG waits till RJ finished before starting.   If that were the case, TG may have waited till it became obvious RJ wasn't going to finish any time soon.   Who really knows and who is really going to admit it.

Not when Jordan started writing tEotW back in 1984. In fact TOR says that Jordan was five years late on getting them the book. He'd started writing the book, but then stopped to do the world building so the books would be concise story. He's said it took him an entire year to do world building, and four more years to make the first novel because he wanted the pace to be even through out.

The reason why I'm doing is that I am, technically, an agent of the government. I was elected the Hero of Ages in the Brandon Sanderson forums over some nonsensical debate (see: http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6073.0), which I ended up winning (which explains Monsta's comment about my ability to win elections). We joked that I became the Lord Ruler, and so when Monsta leveled up one time and broke out of jail (these titles are quite hilariously ridiculous), as the Lord Ruler, it was my duty to capture him. Or something.

Ahem, now that we are all caught up on our inside jokes...

It appears Raethe and I are now listed as Moderators. However, it also appears like I cannot even pin a topic. Maybe I'm just not seeing any moderation options at all, but really, I've moderated forums before, so I thought I knew where to look for the moderation abilities. Apparently they are hiding, or I don't have them. Hmmm...

You are indeed a great statesman.

     My writing career began at the age of eight, when I wrote a whopping 3 page novel (1/2 of each page was illustrations). I have no idea what is was about. At age nine I wrote the sequel, about 10 pages, in which the bad guy was Megaman. . . I had drawn a picture of him in the same notebook as I was writing, so when I got to that page I just decided to incorporate it into  the story. Later that year, I wrote my third book. 30 written pages (each one 1/2 illustration (stick figure style)), Entitled "Crono and Scott". It was about me going on an adventure with my favorite video game character. . .
     I didn't write anything until seventh grade when I wrote 100 page book.... notebook page... it came out to about 50 pages typed... it was pretty lame....

Wow, are we related? This is basically what I'm child hood writing experience looks like. But I wrote my notebook novel as a senior in highschool.

If we're going to talk about SoT, I feel the need to add my opinions.   To say it simply, I think anyone who enjoys WoT will enjoy SoT.   Keep in mind that there was some communication between TG and RJ at some point and so there are many parallels between their stories.   Unfortunately I think SoT is a great storyline implemented horribly.   TG makes a bunch of very amateur mistakes.   If you want to read more about them, I posted them here: Shadowburn Archives.   I don't want to post them here because they do have some spoilers up to and including the final book so read at your own risk.   In the end I do recommend reading SoT once as it is a good story.

I was told that because I am I big WoT fan that I would like SoT. I finished the second and refuse to pick up another. It felt like Goodkind purposely used ever genre clique.

Also, from what I've heard, Goodkind denies having ever heard of Jordan.

I'm a twenty-one year old male from Oklahoma. I spent from the age of two until eighteen in foster care.  I've always loved books and wanted to be a writer--even if just for personal entertainment. On the summer of my senior year in high school--I was still months away from aging out of the foster care program--while I was living on a farm, I'd gotten extremely bored and a little depressed and started to write a fantasy novel. I never finished it because I did everything that you're not supposed to, jumping POVs while in the same chapter, clique dialog, and the extreme over uses of internal dialog.

I set the jumbled story aside as I finished my senior year. After which I moved out on my own and began working, about a year later I picked up the old story and read through it--what I could anyway, I'd hand written it because I didn't have access to a computer. I hated it and wanted to try again. So now I'm on my fourth novel, and one I'm very excited about.

I never use serious romantic tones in my works--flirtatious, yes, but not anything serious--,I don't use the "family theme", I don't write idealist character, I avoid having a true definable antagonist, and the closest thing I've ever written to a happy ending is a story where the characters ended up right back where they'd began.

I can submit on the first. But I do have a question on time frames for response to submissions: is it up to the end of the thirty day period, or until the next set of submissions?

I'm late, but here goes, email: 

Disclamer, my last name is Ennis. My friend set up my email acount...and got the last laugh.