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Title: This is not about Movies or TV
Post by: House of Mustard on February 18, 2003, 12:27:24 PM
This is probably the most appropriate column for music news.  Have you heard that Johnny Cash has a new album out and that his big new single is a remake of Marilyn Manson's 'Hurt'?  I heard it this morning and it's actually pretty cool.
Title: Re: This is not about Movies or TV
Post by: Slant on February 18, 2003, 06:39:44 PM
When Marilyn Manson starts doing remakes of Johnny Cash's music, THEN we'll worry.
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Post by: Mr_Pleasington on February 19, 2003, 01:40:30 PM
I caught the video to this the other day and all I can say is that Johnny Cash looks ancient.  The man in black looks three steps away from the casket.  The song is ultra-depressing, but what can you expect from a tune that Trent Reznor wrote?

Still, good tune.  It fits Cash's style well
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Post by: House of Mustard on February 19, 2003, 04:33:48 PM
I just saw the video today - I think that the video is extremely cool, although I'm not sure what he's intending with all of the cruxifiction imagery.  Seems very un-Johnny Cash.  It does seem very Marilyn Manson though.
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Post by: Fellfrosch on February 19, 2003, 06:58:33 PM
Mustard, is your signature a Blackadder quote?
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Post by: House of Mustard on February 20, 2003, 06:28:26 PM
Yes, when George is explaining about all his tiddly-wink buddies that had been killed in the war.
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Post by: Slant on February 20, 2003, 08:00:59 PM
Good call, Fell.
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Post by: Fellfrosch on February 20, 2003, 09:26:38 PM
What can I say? That's one of television's finest half hours.
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Post by: Entsuropi on February 21, 2003, 10:12:16 AM
i didnt know blackadder aired on US TV. Is britain just americas funny TV show factory?
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Post by: Fellfrosch on February 21, 2003, 01:05:20 PM
PBS (the educational channel) shows britcoms late at night pretty much every day of the week. A much larger British contribution to American TV comes form our habit of stealing and remaking your game shows and reality shows--things like "Trading Spaces" and "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?"
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Post by: House of Mustard on February 21, 2003, 01:56:28 PM
And my favorite - Junkyard Wars!

By the way, I only really get a kick out of the later Blackadder stuff.  Third and Fourth seasons only, really.  The fourth season, however (Blackadder Goes Forth) was about the greatest series of shows I've seen ever.  As a matter of fact, I can't really think of another series I enjoy as much.
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Post by: Fellfrosch on February 21, 2003, 02:28:25 PM
The early seasons of Blackadder were pretty good ("bring me the black Russian!") but Blackadder goes forth was far superior because the writing was more polished. The characters were emotionally deep while still being caricatures. The final episode managed to be hilarious and sad and stirring at the same time. I really wish they'd kept the series going, but I suppose they were running out of history.
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Post by: Slant on February 21, 2003, 05:55:08 PM

Yes, Blackadder is one of the all-time classic Britcoms.  There is a thick paperback book out that contains the scripts for the entire series and is nearly as much fun to read as to watch.  There are a whole slew of Britcoms out there that are just far more entertaining than anything found on US television.  I grew up on Are You Being Served, You Rang, M'Lord, The Young Ones (which really has to be seen to be believed), Absolutely Fabulous, and of course Benny Hill.

I hope Rowan Atkinson continues to churn out quality work and that he avoids the potential career suicide of taking a bit part in a godawful AMerican film like Tom Baker did in Dungeons & Dragons.  oh, wait...... Scooby Doo!!!  Damn you, Doo, damn you!
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Post by: Fellfrosch on February 21, 2003, 06:43:16 PM
I never liked "AreYou Being Served?", but I'm a big fan of "Allo Allo," "Red Dwarf," "Waiting for God," and of course the short-lived "Fawlty Towers." I also get a big kick out of "Bargain Hunter," if for no reason other than the host's incredibly quirky accent and enthusiasm for junk.
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Post by: Entsuropi on February 21, 2003, 06:54:31 PM
i am shocked and appalled that noone has yet to mention "It ain't 'alf hot mum". What a show. Its one of those things where if you try to explain it everyone just stares at you.

The last episode of blackadder goes forth has gone down as one of the best moments in british TV history. To manage to make a comedy of such heights that also had such a... non funny yet incredibly powerful ending is a very rare thing indeed. It shows how british TV evolved from monty python i suppose - MP never managed to be anything other than a silly show.

Red dwarf... what a show again. I adore this program. If you like Rimmer, try hunting down "The Brittas Empire". Its by the same acter as rimmer, and.. well just go watch it.

Oh and how come nobodies mentioned "Mr Bean"? Or "The thin blue line"? Both of those are pure gold atkinson  comedy.
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Post by: Slant on February 21, 2003, 07:24:22 PM
I loved Mr. Bean (and his teddy) but I am pretending that the American movie was just a figment of my fevered imagination.  I saw Brittas Empire and enjoyed it.  As for "It ain't 'alf Hot, Mum," I've never heard of it.  Who was in it?  What was it about?  

Oh, and Rimmer (or at least Chris Barrie) had a tiny part in the Tomb Raider film and is expected to be back in part 2.

Black, his gloves of finest wool,
Black, his codpiece made of metal.
His hat is blacker than a hole,
His boots are blacker than his saddle.
Blackaaadder, Blackaaadder,
with many a cunning plaaan
Blackaaadder, Blackaaadder,
You nasty little maaan.......
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Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on February 21, 2003, 07:40:15 PM
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I hope Rowan Atkinson continues to churn out quality work and that he avoids the potential career suicide of taking a bit part in a godawful AMerican film like Tom Baker did in Dungeons & Dragons.  oh, wait...... Scooby Doo!!!  Damn you, Doo, damn you!


The problem with that is.... well he has. The Mr. Bean movie was very poor. (I wanted to laugh, I really did). And then there was Rat Race. Rat Race is about the biggest waste of time I have EVER experienced. Well, at least in the last year. I also Legend.
Title: Re: This is not about Movies or TV
Post by: Fellfrosch on February 22, 2003, 02:30:41 AM
He has Johnny English coming out soon, which I want to like but I'm scared of. As has been pointed out, he has an abysmal record with American movies.

What about the show "Yes, Prime Minister"? I bet it's ten times funnier if you have a solid understanding of British politics, but even to me uninitiated Yankee mind it's incredibly hilarious.
Title: Re: This is not about Movies or TV
Post by: Entsuropi on February 22, 2003, 04:54:29 AM
not really fell. what made it so funny for us british is that many MP's and civil servants really are like that. That and the jokes.

Oh and i like how we are all talking about British stuff. Yet another area in which britain is superior to USA. give respect.