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Title: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: 42 on August 30, 2005, 07:12:45 PM
Has anyone seen this?

I saw it this morning. It's not nearly as bad as the critics make it out to be. It actually has great visuals and descent plot. It does lack a thesis statement, but as a action/horror flick it works well.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 30, 2005, 09:06:51 PM
Its a gilliam piece so I expect its pretty good. Critics always hate his stuff at first and then revise and say how good it is.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Spriggan on August 31, 2005, 01:40:20 PM
Never!  The world will know of your post for ever!
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 31, 2005, 01:58:59 PM
/me has it engraved in stone and set up as an obelisk
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Spriggan on August 31, 2005, 02:05:09 PM
*Spriggan looks for someone to sacrifice to the obelisk
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 31, 2005, 02:15:22 PM
It's like 2001. The obelisk is going to teach us how to kill each other with bones.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Spriggan on August 31, 2005, 02:21:25 PM
psh, I learned how to do that from the last Obelisk you erected.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 31, 2005, 03:47:48 PM
Here's the review (http://www.timewastersguide.com/view.php?id=1144)
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Skar on August 31, 2005, 04:51:23 PM
thpppppftht!
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 31, 2005, 05:00:17 PM
Er his directorial debut Brazil?... erm...  he had like 4 films under his belt by then...

Monty Python and the Holy Grail (co-directed with Terry Jones) (1975)
Jabberwocky (1977)
Time Bandits (1981)
The Crimson Permanent Assurance (1983) - A short supporting feature that accompanied Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
Brazil (1985)
The Adventures of Baron Munchhausen (1988)
The Fisher King (1991)
Twelve Monkeys (1995) - Inspired by Chris Marker's La Jetée.
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (1998)
The Brothers Grimm (2005)
Tideland (2006)

Ok only Jabberwocky and Timebandits were solo directorial feature length films, but still... he did a lot before Brazil.

And by a lot I definitely mean Time Bandits,... which is one of the best films of all time. With some amazing social commentary and biting humor Time Bandits is an amazing visual spectacle.

But then again so is Brazil and Baron Munchausen, and Fear and Loathing

Gilliam has one film that always eluded him though, Don Quixote. Making that film for him was like chasing windmills.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on August 31, 2005, 07:23:26 PM
Oops. I don't count the other stuff, because I was referring to solo features. I was thinking "Brazil" came before "Time Bandits."
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 31, 2005, 07:51:00 PM
Jabberwocky was solo too :)
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Spriggan on September 01, 2005, 07:19:11 AM
I find it interesting the Ledger did this film and many of his others to, and these are his words not mine, "destroy his film career".  Its hard to tell with him ,since he's a jerk like Russel Crow in real life, if he did these less main stream films to get rid of his "teen" movie status or just because he to literally have people stop offering him roles in mainstream movies.

Oh and we should get the Brazil mistake switched to Jabberwocky as well.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 01, 2005, 09:25:10 AM
can we shoot him? Never in the history has anyone's career been destroyed by a single movie. And besides, being a movie is who's fault? Oh yeah, the guy who signs the contract.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Entsuropi on September 01, 2005, 01:21:50 PM
Crowe is a good actor, but an absolute tit IRL. Kinda sad really.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on September 01, 2005, 01:27:01 PM
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I find it interesting the Ledger did this film and many of his others to, and these are his words not mine, "destroy his film career".  Its hard to tell with him ,since he's a jerk like Russel Crow in real life, if he did these less main stream films to get rid of his "teen" movie status or just because he to literally have people stop offering him roles in mainstream movies.

Oh and we should get the Brazil mistake switched to Jabberwocky as well.


What excatly are you saying here? This post is all but unreadable.

I apologize for the "Brazil" mistake. I tend to remember "Brazil" as being his first film, because it was the film where he "Arrived" as a director, as far as the critics were concerned, much in the same way most people think of 'Braveheart" as Mel Gibson's first film as a director, while of course it was not.

If someone wants to go in and edit the review to fix this mistake, by all means, do so.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on September 01, 2005, 02:02:34 PM
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Crowe is a good actor, but an absolute tit IRL. Kinda sad really.

I don't knowwhat an IRL is, but I would have to agree. I love Russell Crowe as actor - he's easily one of the most versatile stars working today, but every time I think he's not really that big a jerk, he turns around and proves me wrong.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Spriggan on September 01, 2005, 02:08:29 PM
IRL=In Real Life

My statement make perfect sense, not my fault you can't understand any format that's not a moving picture with sound.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 01, 2005, 02:19:57 PM
If I hadn't known you as long as I have, Sprig, I wouldn't be able to understand that post either.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 01, 2005, 02:36:54 PM
yeah, most of us fill in mis-spelled or missed words.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Spriggan on September 01, 2005, 02:49:53 PM
Ok so I forgot to include 'wants' in between 'he to' near the end but it's not that bad.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: 42 on September 01, 2005, 03:40:14 PM
So it needs a little proof reading, who doesn't?

But I heard the same thing, that Ledger is selecting roles that he feels will "destroy career." He really just wants to escape being casted as the blonde-pretty boy. Course it has kind of come off as, "I will only take parts in crappy movies."

I actually thought that Ledger did a pretty good job in Grimm and it was definitely a different character-type than what he usually plays.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 01, 2005, 04:15:14 PM
George Clooney did a very similar thing, playing parts that inevitably made him look grungy or weird, and it completely made his career. I think Ledger's going for the same thing--destroy the career he has and build the career he wants.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Entsuropi on September 01, 2005, 04:22:23 PM
My favourite actor is Christian Bale. Not just for his acting, but for his quotes on his IMDB profile. He actually sounds like a good guy who wants to do a good acting job, not just someone who is all about 'me'.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on September 02, 2005, 03:53:06 AM
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So it needs a little proof reading, who doesn't?

But I heard the same thing, that Ledger is selecting roles that he feels will "destroy career." He really just wants to escape being casted as the blonde-pretty boy. Course it has kind of come off as, "I will only take parts in crappy movies."

I actually thought that Ledger did a pretty good job in Grimm and it was definitely a different character-type than what he usually plays.


This I understand. It's not the lack of moving pictures, Spriggan, but of punctuation and resemblance to the Englsih language that threw me off. No hard feelings, I hope.

Brad Pitt did this very successfully: I remember a time when only women liked him. Now, in the post "Fight Club" era, more men are Brad Pitt fans than women. I like Heath Ledger quite a bit - he was the only real saving grace of "The Patriot," and I really enjoyed "The Four Feathers." I would like to see him get past the tenn idol thing and really get a chance to just be an actor.


Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Skar on September 02, 2005, 04:53:12 PM
To jump to another topic altogether, I hated 4 Feathers.

The guy gives into his cowardice in the first place and then decides to go to Africa.  While it could have been a good movie if at that point he had been smart brave and clever for his friends.  He was neither.  Deciding to go to Africa was the last thing he did of his own free will.  Everything else was just stuff that happened to him and most of the time he failed even to take advantage of the situations he was swept into.  The only redeeming quality of the film was Djimon Hounsou's character.  He was a stud.

I understand that the original version of the film was very different and quite good.  I have yet to see it.

edit: having said that, I have nothing against Heath Ledger as an actor.  
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Patrick_Gibbs on September 03, 2005, 12:36:16 PM
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To jump to another topic altogether, I hated 4 Feathers.

The guy gives into his cowardice in the first place and then decides to go to Africa.  While it could have been a good movie if at that point he had been smart brave and clever for his friends.  He was neither.  Deciding to go to Africa was the last thing he did of his own free will.  Everything else was just stuff that happened to him and most of the time he failed even to take advantage of the situations he was swept into.  The only redeeming quality of the film was Djimon Hounsou's character.  He was a stud.

I understand that the original version of the film was very different and quite good.  I have yet to see it.

edit: having said that, I have nothing against Heath Ledger as an actor.  


I guess "The Four Feathers" is kind of my "Pearl Harbor." I love the movie, but I acknowledge that a lot of people didn't. It's just a movie that was very personal to me.
Title: Re: The Brothers Grimm
Post by: Skar on September 06, 2005, 01:46:15 PM
I just saw this one.  I liked it.  Definitely a Gilliam piece.  It does waht a lot of silly movies fail to do. It hangs together nicely.  I find myself wanting to see it again.