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Troy
« on: May 14, 2004, 01:08:45 PM »
I wasn't planning on seeing this anyways, but apparently the infamous Trojan Horse plays no role in the movie.  But what pushes me away further is that the gods play no role either.  Which means that Hector loses just because he loses, not because Achilles got better divine help.  Hector's one of the only real heros of that story in my opinion.

Brad Pitt as Achilles was a brilliant casting move, I think.  I hate Achilles.
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Re: Troy
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2004, 01:21:06 PM »
I loved this film.  Only problem was all those teenaged girls swooming about over Orlando Bloom in the theater.  I'm really hoping that they do The Odyssey with Sean Bean.  THAT'S when you'll likely see all the magic and godly-type stuff.
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Re: Troy
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2004, 01:29:30 PM »
I think i shall still stay far away from it.
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Re: Troy
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2004, 08:20:08 PM »
I'd see it, but I dont want to see brad pitt in a metal/leather skirt
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Re: Troy
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2004, 08:52:27 PM »
nor do I
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Re: Troy
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2004, 05:28:03 AM »
Trojan Horse is in the movie.  This show was awesome.

Not sure why everyone seems not to like Achilles or Brad Pitt....
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Re: Troy
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2004, 06:59:21 AM »
Every report I read says the horse was in it...

I like this quote from the NYT
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Achilles' temperament - a volatile mixture of vanity, cynicism and sentimentality -; is the key to the movie, and Mr. Pitt attacks the role with the same vigor and agility the character demonstrates in combat. Yes, his accent sounds a bit like Madonna's, perhaps in deference to the mostly English and Australian actors who make up most of the cast, but for once he does not seem embarrassed by his charisma, or driven to subvert it with actorish tics. Achilles' narcissism is like that of a modern celebrity: he fights because it will bring him fame, not to serve the gods or the glory of the Greek nation or, least of all, his corrupt king. His true loyalty is to individuals-; his beloved cousin Patroclus (Garrett Hedlund), his ruthless Myrmidons and his love interest, the captured Trojan priestess Briseis (Rose Byrne) -; rather than to causes.

His Trojan counterpart is Paris's brother, Hector (Eric Bana), who is constrained by the bonds of kinship, duty and patriotism that Achilles disdains. If Achilles is a kind of existentialist rock star, Hector is a stoical family man, protective of his wayward brother, respectful of his father, Priam (Peter O'Toole), and devoted to his wife, Andromache (Saffron Burrows) and their infant son. The events leading up to Hector's duel with Achilles -; a tempest of failure, deceit and unappeasable emotion -; are the beating heart of Homer's poem, and the filmmakers approach them with respectful sobriety, even going so far as to lower the volume on Mr. Horner's music. Mr. Bana, after his tentative superhero turn in "The Hulk," shows more confidence here. His brooding, bearded countenance plays against Mr. Pitt's gleaming blondness, and the visual contrast emphasizes the differences between the characters.

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Re: Troy
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2004, 09:41:00 AM »
Troy made about 45 million this weekend, not bad for a 2 hour long movie.  Still not going to see it, the movie just dosen't excite me, the trailors make it look to boreing.  Also the fact there's sex and nudity in it don't help it.
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Re: Troy
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2004, 08:59:24 AM »
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Re: Troy
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2004, 09:47:18 AM »
oh yeah. I'd pay EXTRA for that film.
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Re: Troy
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2004, 10:18:21 AM »
Yeah, Tycho's right. It would have been a better movie. It would have been a better movie had Bloom's character died. But yeah, I didn't like this film. It just seemed to be a reason to dress a bunch of men up in skirts and have them tackle each other. Obviously people have a different take on what fun is.
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Re: Troy
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2004, 10:36:31 AM »
I thought you werent going to go watch it?
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Re: Troy
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2004, 11:31:07 AM »
MMmm, wasn't me. But then, everyone is entitle to their misconceptions.
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Re: Troy
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2004, 04:55:01 AM »
that would definitly have made a better movie had that happened. I could see the film being a bit shortened, but hey, who wouldnt pay to see Legolas kill about four guys with one arrow and the Hulk smash people in the same fashion except with feet and arms. lol
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