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So as a person of no artistic talent i was hoping someone might create a couple scenes from WoK that i found cool. The first is the scene when Kaladin jumps the bridge as it is being pushed across the gap that leads to dalinar. The second scene is the one in which kaladin kills the shardbearer in the flashback.

Scene 1:


That what you had in mind?

Quote from: ryos on September 09, 2010, 08:17:09 AM

I find the manner of the Radiants' betrayal to be quite telling. They didn't just walk away—they made a statement. We will have nothing to do with you any more. Who lost honor, the Knights, or the rest of humanity?

I believe that vision happened after the Heralds called it quits. After "The Enemy" (probably Rayse/Odium) stopped sending his minions to cause desolations, for some unknown reason (perhaps to gather steam for the Final Desolation?). When we see the Knights, they fight smoke monsters and protect people. I get the impression the Knights didn't used to fight people. Yet, the comments of soldiers in Firestone Keep about them being needed on "the front lines" make me think the people had been using the Radiants to fight their wars, man against man, and that the Radiants got fed up with that.

What place does an organization founded on absolute honor for the purpose of protecting a united humanity against the forces of Odium have in a world where the Voidbringers rise up no longer? I don't think it was Odium's taint that drove the Radiants away. I think it was the absence thereof.

That's a good point.  I suppose if the Heralds convinced everyone that they had finally won, there would be no reason for the Knights Radiant to stand and fight wars between men. You're right--for an order founded to protect humankind, being forced to fight wars between men would certainly push them over the edge. And that fits right in with leaving the soldiers to kill each other over the Shards right after abandoning them.

But is that a big enough betrayal to cause the Knights Radiant to betray man in turn?  They could have just stopped fighting.  I think there was something bigger that caused it, something from the Almighty or the Heralds or the spren, not just from man.

Could they have "just stopped fighting"? What does that mean to an organization that exists to fight? No matter how you look at it, refusing to fight would mean the end of the order. And if they retained the power of the shards, tried to keep Urithiru going, you have to imagine that some warlord or other would come against them. They'd be forced to fight again, only they'd be an army of 300 Shardbearers against all of humanity.

Those aren't great odds. As we saw many times, a Shardbearer can be overwhelmed by sheer numbers. Pulling one down is extremely costly, but it can be done.

I'm with omelet du fromage over there.

Last batch you'll see from me. I finished today.

779.6 "So if Sadeas could arrive first, then hold out long enough for Dalinar get his men across..." Dalinar TO get his men across
793.14 "He could the use extra men..." use the
924.1 "'He wanted them to bunch up against us,' one the spearmen said."
935.1 "Ahead, he could make out a figure in scratched blue Shardplate, fighting at the front of group." THE group
936.10 "Adolin cut down through multiple men at once..." May not be an error, I'm not clear. Does it mean to say Adolin is swinging his Blade downward through multiple men at once? Or did he cut them down? Or cut through them?
940.12 "Adolin and last of his troops filed along behind him." THE last of his troops.

I have a mad conjecture that Odium visited Scadriel during Hero of Ages. Remember when Vin was jumping around Yomin's city, gathering information from various sources? She landed near a possible source, but her instincts told her to flee, so she did without question. Now, it's possible that Brandon was just using this to reinforce Vin's character. But, as a Mistborn, there are very few things in that city that could threaten her, and I think she'd been a Mistborn for long enough at that point for her instincts to have adapted to her power. She could feel that something dangerous was in that alley.

What would Odium have seen? Leras dead, Preservation's power broken, Ruin's power bound, all on a world mere weeks from destruction. He'd not have needed to help it along—indeed, why bother?

Now, if indeed he ever does learn of Sazed's ascension, there may be trouble, but I wouldn't count the Terrisman out. He's got two complimentary Shards where Rayse has one, and he's frickin' Sazed.

And yet more:

604.8 "Kaladin knew what happening to him." Missing a "was".
609.2 "...what was hope it except another opportunity..." Stray "it".
691.10 "It will take time, but promise you if we staet here..." Missing an "I"
694.11 "Maybe you'll you happen upon..." Extra "you".
695.4 "...capable in stances they had only been just been taught..." Extra "been".
698.15 "Jasna's quieter, move justified anger was no less daunting." "Move" should be "more".
703.8 "Coreb's fell to his knees and began to beg." Extra possessive on Coreb.

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730.10 "They ran shoulder to shoulder, not a single one of place." Out of place.
731.1 "That meant so far as he knew, there were less than hundred Blades..."  a/one hundred Blades.
732.8 "Dalinar He caught up to the..." Dalinar is superfluous.
733.8 "I have said I that cannot be of much help to you."
735.13 "That was very same reason they didn't let..." The very same reason.
745.4 "He looked up with as Kaladin and the members of..."
760.9 "I haven't give up on you yet, Dalinar."
770.7 "You're not going be like Rock..." not going TO be like Rock
773.8 "...and a group of many-legged cremlings scuttling along along the wall and slipped into a fissure." scuttled

This is a spoiler if you haven't read through Section 2.

Really, it is.

I mean it.

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Ok. The section 2 epigraphs, assuming they're written by Hoid as seems extremely likely, say that the pursuers are "from the 17th shard". I don't know what that is, but if I were to conjecture wildly, I'd say it's an agglomerate of shardholders who hold the "17th shard", or servants of a single person who holds the same. In that case, the searchers probably aren't from a world we know.

And the typo report barrage begins! 

The Way of Kings, hardcover 1st edition:

Page 33.6  "Still standing on the side of the wall, Szeth groaned, climbing to his feet." If he's already standing, how does he climb to his feet?

Page 55.3 "Kaladin sat back down to floor of the wagon..." Missing a "the" between "to" and "floor". And, if I may be so bold, I think "sank" works better in that sentence than "sat".

Page 150.2 "Kaladin's own team had lost nearly enough stop them." Missing a "to".

Page 170.7 "You asked right questions?" Missing a "the". Not sure if this is an error, or an attempt to portray an accent. It makes me think Blunt sounds like a Russian.

Page 193.3 "When Dalinar and the king rode up, and adolin spoke quickly before Sadeas could speak." I'm no grammarian, so I'm probably embarrassing myself right now, but I think what's wrong with this sentence is that it's a fragment. To fix it, I'd remove the "When" on the front.

Edit:
Page 198.4 "Insulting others was beneath the dignity the king..." missing an "of".

Edit 2:
Page 238.3 "...it was a shameful secret he hide."

Edit 3:
251.3 "Oddly, he noticed a group older boys gathering..." Missing an "of".

260.5 "I saw some of reeds of it growing..." Superfluous "of".

Edit 4:
281.6 "He'd given both to Elhokar to award to a warrior..." Extra "to".

334.7 "'Highprinces and lighteyes,' Elhokar's suddenly proclaimed." Unnecessary posessive on Elhokar.